FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[MasterJedi]

I'm curious with the pickems if BDB really thinks that UWW will lose each week or if he just really doesn't like UWW. 

[retagent]

Remember that Bielema inherited a team that someone else recruited. Give him another couple years at least before disparaging the move. We rarely know the background of these types of moves. He's taking care of his family, and doing what he thinks is best. That being said, I'll never know why people leave places where they, at least seem, to be doing well, and have things on the right track, for a little more money. I've moved around a bit, and I've learned that it's not where you're at, it's who you're with. I was never  a big fan, but he did get results. Doesn't mean he's not a jerk, doesn't mean he is.

emma mentioned Kumerow's fumble. Granted I was near the 20 yard line on the other end of the field, but it looked to me like his hitting the ground cased the ball to come out. Anyone else who was closer have the same thought?

[MasterJedi]

emma mentioned Kumerow's fumble. Granted I was near the 20 yard line on the other end of the field, but it looked to me like his hitting the ground cased the ball to come out. Anyone else who was closer have the same thought?

I was farther away then you (watching it on TV) but I could have sworn his knee was down when he was rammed and the ball came out.

[ExTartanPlayer]

Remember that Bielema inherited a team that someone else recruited. Give him another couple years at least before disparaging the move. We rarely know the background of these types of moves. He's taking care of his family, and doing what he thinks is best. That being said, I'll never know why people leave places where they, at least seem, to be doing well, and have things on the right track, for a little more money. I've moved around a bit, and I've learned that it's not where you're at, it's who you're with. I was never  a big fan, but he did get results. Doesn't mean he's not a jerk, doesn't mean he is.

Well said and agreed.  You can't judge a coach halfway through his first season; furthermore, as you said, there are reasons to make a coaching move besides just "How many games will I win here?"

I also agree with the second part that - while there may be valid reasons for the move - it is hard for me to understand why someone would leave a place where they seem to be doing especially well.  I am a Philadelphia Eagles fan and LOVE Chip Kelly as our head coach; I actually see the rationale for his move (snarky comments about recruiting violations aside), I kind of understand the possible allure of trying to coach in the NFL after being very successful in college.  Even the Bielema/Arkansas move has a bit of that flavor, though.  He was doing quite well at Wisconsin by most standards but perhaps he concluded that he had taken that program as far as he could, and while B1G title-games are nice, perhaps he thought coaching in the SEC would either a) provide a new challenge (definitely would) and b) give him a better chance to recruit athletes with which he thinks he can win a national title (note that I said "he thinks" which does not mean it is impossible to win one at Wisconsin, nor that it is a certainty to win one at Arkansas).

[emma17]

Remember that Bielema inherited a team that someone else recruited. Give him another couple years at least before disparaging the move. We rarely know the background of these types of moves. He's taking care of his family, and doing what he thinks is best. That being said, I'll never know why people leave places where they, at least seem, to be doing well, and have things on the right track, for a little more money. I've moved around a bit, and I've learned that it's not where you're at, it's who you're with. I was never  a big fan, but he did get results. Doesn't mean he's not a jerk, doesn't mean he is.

emma mentioned Kumerow's fumble. Granted I was near the 20 yard line on the other end of the field, but it looked to me like his hitting the ground cased the ball to come out. Anyone else who was closer have the same thought?

Point well taken on the inherited talent, and even more so about happiness being more about who you're with. 
I didn't follow him closely, but I felt UW didn't run enough in the Rose Bowls they lost. 

As for Kumerow, from my vantage point at the 50 I also thought he was down.  However, D3 has a wonderful site with pictures of the UWW-UWP game.  If you scroll through, you'll see still shots of nearly the entire play.  He fumbled.

Funny though, at halftime the UWW radio announcers continued to assume he wasn't playing because he "was in the fumble doghouse".  In fact, he was propped up on crutches on the sideline. 

[bleedpurple]

Remember that Bielema inherited a team that someone else recruited. Give him another couple years at least before disparaging the move. We rarely know the background of these types of moves. He's taking care of his family, and doing what he thinks is best. That being said, I'll never know why people leave places where they, at least seem, to be doing well, and have things on the right track, for a little more money. I've moved around a bit, and I've learned that it's not where you're at, it's who you're with. I was never  a big fan, but he did get results. Doesn't mean he's not a jerk, doesn't mean he is.

emma mentioned Kumerow's fumble. Granted I was near the 20 yard line on the other end of the field, but it looked to me like his hitting the ground cased the ball to come out. Anyone else who was closer have the same thought?

Point well taken on the inherited talent, and even more so about happiness being more about who you're with. 
I didn't follow him closely, but I felt UW didn't run enough in the Rose Bowls they lost. 

As for Kumerow, from my vantage point at the 50 I also thought he was down.  However, D3 has a wonderful site with pictures of the UWW-UWP game.  If you scroll through, you'll see still shots of nearly the entire play.  He fumbled.

Funny though, at halftime the UWW radio announcers continued to assume he wasn't playing because he "was in the fumble doghouse".  In fact, he was propped up on crutches on the sideline.

I agree. I looked at it frame by frame. When he broke the first two tackles he had the ball secured in his right hand.  As he was about to be hit near the goal line, he was in the process of switching hands.  The ball didn't squirt out until after the knee was down, but the ball was moving near his chest (no longer completely secured) before the ball squirted out and before the knee was down.  Bang bang play, but a fumble nonetheless.

[badgerwarhawk]

I'm curious with the pickems if BDB really thinks that UWW will lose each week or if he just really doesn't like UWW. 

He's trying to win the pickem in a bizzaro world. 

[badgerwarhawk]

Remember that Bielema inherited a team that someone else recruited. Give him another couple years at least before disparaging the move. We rarely know the background of these types of moves. He's taking care of his family, and doing what he thinks is best. That being said, I'll never know why people leave places where they, at least seem, to be doing well, and have things on the right track, for a little more money. I've moved around a bit, and I've learned that it's not where you're at, it's who you're with. I was never  a big fan, but he did get results. Doesn't mean he's not a jerk, doesn't mean he is.

emma mentioned Kumerow's fumble. Granted I was near the 20 yard line on the other end of the field, but it looked to me like his hitting the ground cased the ball to come out. Anyone else who was closer have the same thought?

Bielema made it clear that he was leaving because he thought his chances of winning a national championship were much better at Arkansas and in the SEC.   That being said the only thing that really pissed me off was the timing.  Maybe he had to, I don't really know, but he abandoned his team and staff on the eve of the biggest game of the season. 

I thought the same thing regarding Kumerow's fumble.  Even after watching the replay.  However I have since spoken to a photographer who got the whole thing on film and he told me it was a fumble.  It was close but the ball was loose before he hit the ground.  In this case stripes got it right.

[BDB]

I'm curious with the pickems if BDB really thinks that UWW will lose each week or if he just really doesn't like UWW. 

He's trying to win the pickem in a bizzaro world.

I don't hate any WIAC team. They are all my kin.

My plan is to go from worst to first. I have to establish worst, first, to do that. And in the bizzarro world, first to worst.

Whatever.

[02 Warhawk]

As the Packers showed last night though (finally found a way to get Bears' victory onto this WI board), at some point or position, not all injuries can be overcome.

+K   

Bears barely beat the Packers by a touchdown without Rodgers! If he was in they would have been toast. 

To level the playing field, a certain starting QB from the other team was missing as well (along with the captain of their defense). 

Exactly, 02. It reminds me of a Bucks/Bulls game I went to in 1986. Unfortunately Michael Jordan was injured. But really, that just leveled the playing field because Craig Hodges and defensive specialist Paul Pressey of the Bucks were hurt as well.   

I get the weak comparison, and I understand that Cutler isn't in the same class as Rodgers. But Rodgers is the best you got, and Cutler is the best we got. Both were big losses to each team. Bears were just able to overcome it a little better...at Lambeau

Plus you can't compare a team sport to an individual sport.

Enough about the NFL now. 

[badgerwarhawk]

The thing about it however is that Wallace had to come into the game having not played a down for two years.  McCown had played the previous week and had more reps in practice during the two weeks leading up to the game.  Wallace didn't have the luxury of that and I think gave McCown a huge advantage.

[02 Warhawk]

Remember that Bielema inherited a team that someone else recruited. Give him another couple years at least before disparaging the move. We rarely know the background of these types of moves. He's taking care of his family, and doing what he thinks is best. That being said, I'll never know why people leave places where they, at least seem, to be doing well, and have things on the right track, for a little more money. I've moved around a bit, and I've learned that it's not where you're at, it's who you're with. I was never  a big fan, but he did get results. Doesn't mean he's not a jerk, doesn't mean he is.

emma mentioned Kumerow's fumble. Granted I was near the 20 yard line on the other end of the field, but it looked to me like his hitting the ground cased the ball to come out. Anyone else who was closer have the same thought?

I watched the play at home a few times, and to me it appeared the safety jared the ball loose when he drilled Kumerow in the hip to make the tackle. I think Kumerow knew it too judging by his reaction.

I think it was the right call

[thrunt01]

I know I am late on this but after watching the UWP UWW game on DVR, WIWA is a true statement.

[bleedpurple]

I know I am late on this but after watching the UWP UWW game on DVR, WIWA is a true statement.

That it awesome! You get a +k for sure! Now 02 is seeing knowledgable non-UW-W fans jumping ahead of him in the WIWA line. Cool of you be willing to post it!

[emma17]

I know I am late on this but after watching the UWP UWW game on DVR, WIWA is a true statement.

That it awesome! You get a +k for sure! Now 02 is seeing knowledgable non-UW-W fans jumping ahead of him in the WIWA line. Cool of you be willing to post it!

Let's talk about 02 like he's not here.
What do you think his deal is anyway?  What part of the UWW team is preventing him from believing wiwa?  Is it the offense doesn't resemble the pound the rock years enough?
Maybe he wants a single RB dominating the stats again?
Is it that he feels the higher ranked teams are superior to the Dub?
Or perhaps it's internal.  Since he stopped writing his WIAC column he probably does less homework on the conference teams, including the Dub- resulting in less fact based confidence. 
He's an interesting dude that 02.