FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[emma17]

I can understand that you believe that Bethel plays a bunch of weak sisters in their conference, and are a very inferior team. I find it very questionable that that conference even gets an AQ. That should be looked into. What is it about NCC thatstrikes your fancy?

It has nothing to do with the conferences whatsoever.  I was just looking at the two teams, nothing more. I saw Bethel in the playoffs last year, and they didn't impress me much. They played a good first half, then were a no-show in the second half of that Oshkosh game.

Other than that, there really aren't any specifics on why I like NCC over Bethel...it's just my opinion.

Also, the MIAC being "weak sisters" is your statement....not mine.

In addition to what 02 said, I can add this.
As a FIB guy that has always respected the high school football played in the DuPage Valley Conference (schools around Naperville mostly)- it was natural for me to follow NCC and Wheaton, even Elmhurst.  Although I haven't attended any CCIW games this year, I have watched a few online and attended many over the past three or four years.  It does allow me to have a direct comparison between what I see on the field from UWW/WIAC schools and NCC.  I guess my eyesight isn't very good because I continue to think NCC is close to/equal to the talent of UWW, yet they continue to lose 2nd or 3rd round games.  2010 NCC was right there with UWW, but UWW knew how to win.  2011 was the collapse vs. Wabash- credit to Wabash but at the same time, questionable defensive coaching by not bringing pressure.  2012 was Linfield.  I'm not saying NCC was better, but I believe entirely that if NCC sticks to the running game, Linfield would have been in serious trouble. 
In summary, NCC is a team on the brink IMO.  This year, their QB is lights out accurate- probably not going to throw 5 picks or whatever it was that he did vs Linfield. 

As for Bethel, I only watched them online vs. St. Thomas.  I was completely impressed with their fortitude when St. Thomas made the comeback.  They seem like a solid team that is well-coached and well-balanced.  They don't have the same playoff performance history that I've seen from NCC.  Didn't they do real well one year yet not have the ability to kick extra points?  If that's true, I imagine that sticks with me a whole lot.  That's unimagineable to me at the college level.         

[02 Warhawk]

I can understand that you believe that Bethel plays a bunch of weak sisters in their conference, and are a very inferior team. I find it very questionable that that conference even gets an AQ. That should be looked into. What is it about NCC thatstrikes your fancy?

It has nothing to do with the conferences whatsoever.  I was just looking at the two teams, nothing more. I saw Bethel in the playoffs last year, and they didn't impress me much. They played a good first half, then were a no-show in the second half of that Oshkosh game.

Other than that, there really aren't any specifics on why I like NCC over Bethel...it's just my opinion.

Also, the MIAC being "weak sisters" is your statement....not mine.

In addition to what 02 said, I can add this.
As a FIB guy that has always respected the high school football played in the DuPage Valley Conference (schools around Naperville mostly)- it was natural for me to follow NCC and Wheaton, even Elmhurst.  Although I haven't attended any CCIW games this year, I have watched a few online and attended many over the past three or four years.  It does allow me to have a direct comparison between what I see on the field from UWW/WIAC schools and NCC.  I guess my eyesight isn't very good because I continue to think NCC is close to/equal to the talent of UWW, yet they continue to lose 2nd or 3rd round games.  2010 NCC was right there with UWW, but UWW knew how to win.  2011 was the collapse vs. Wabash- credit to Wabash but at the same time, questionable defensive coaching by not bringing pressure.  2012 was Linfield.  I'm not saying NCC was better, but I believe entirely that if NCC sticks to the running game, Linfield would have been in serious trouble. 
In summary, NCC is a team on the brink IMO.  This year, their QB is lights out accurate- probably not going to throw 5 picks or whatever it was that he did vs Linfield. 

As for Bethel, I only watched them online vs. St. Thomas.  I was completely impressed with their fortitude when St. Thomas made the comeback.  They seem like a solid team that is well-coached and well-balanced.  They don't have the same playoff performance history that I've seen from NCC.  Didn't they do real well one year yet not have the ability to kick extra points?  If that's true, I imagine that sticks with me a whole lot.  That's unimagineable to me at the college level.         

Speaking of IL high school football, I'm anxious to see if my home-town team of Montini can grab it's 5th consecuative 5A state title this year.

I actually attended Willowbrook high school (public), who made the playoffs this year but got smoked bt St. Rita I saw.    Moniti was the local private school that I didn't attend.

Private schools were never my style     

[02 Warhawk]

I can understand that you believe that Bethel plays a bunch of weak sisters in their conference, and are a very inferior team. I find it very questionable that that conference even gets an AQ. That should be looked into. What is it about NCC thatstrikes your fancy?

It has nothing to do with the conferences whatsoever.  I was just looking at the two teams, nothing more. I saw Bethel in the playoffs last year, and they didn't impress me much. They played a good first half, then were a no-show in the second half of that Oshkosh game.

Other than that, there really aren't any specifics on why I like NCC over Bethel...it's just my opinion.

Also, the MIAC being "weak sisters" is your statement....not mine.

In addition to what 02 said, I can add this.
As a FIB guy that has always respected the high school football played in the DuPage Valley Conference (schools around Naperville mostly)- it was natural for me to follow NCC and Wheaton, even Elmhurst.  Although I haven't attended any CCIW games this year, I have watched a few online and attended many over the past three or four years.  It does allow me to have a direct comparison between what I see on the field from UWW/WIAC schools and NCC.  I guess my eyesight isn't very good because I continue to think NCC is close to/equal to the talent of UWW, yet they continue to lose 2nd or 3rd round games.  2010 NCC was right there with UWW, but UWW knew how to win.  2011 was the collapse vs. Wabash- credit to Wabash but at the same time, questionable defensive coaching by not bringing pressure.  2012 was Linfield.  I'm not saying NCC was better, but I believe entirely that if NCC sticks to the running game, Linfield would have been in serious trouble. 
In summary, NCC is a team on the brink IMO.  This year, their QB is lights out accurate- probably not going to throw 5 picks or whatever it was that he did vs Linfield. 

As for Bethel, I only watched them online vs. St. Thomas.  I was completely impressed with their fortitude when St. Thomas made the comeback.  They seem like a solid team that is well-coached and well-balanced.  They don't have the same playoff performance history that I've seen from NCC.  Didn't they do real well one year yet not have the ability to kick extra points?  If that's true, I imagine that sticks with me a whole lot.  That's unimagineable to me at the college level.         

We're not alone. Looks like Keith picked NCC over Bethel as well.

He must think the MIAC is weak as well   

[hazzben]

I can understand that you believe that Bethel plays a bunch of weak sisters in their conference, and are a very inferior team. I find it very questionable that that conference even gets an AQ. That should be looked into. What is it about NCC thatstrikes your fancy?

It has nothing to do with the conferences whatsoever.  I was just looking at the two teams, nothing more. I saw Bethel in the playoffs last year, and they didn't impress me much. They played a good first half, then were a no-show in the second half of that Oshkosh game.

Other than that, there really aren't any specifics on why I like NCC over Bethel...it's just my opinion.

Also, the MIAC being "weak sisters" is your statement....not mine.

In addition to what 02 said, I can add this.
As a FIB guy that has always respected the high school football played in the DuPage Valley Conference (schools around Naperville mostly)- it was natural for me to follow NCC and Wheaton, even Elmhurst.  Although I haven't attended any CCIW games this year, I have watched a few online and attended many over the past three or four years.  It does allow me to have a direct comparison between what I see on the field from UWW/WIAC schools and NCC.  I guess my eyesight isn't very good because I continue to think NCC is close to/equal to the talent of UWW, yet they continue to lose 2nd or 3rd round games.  2010 NCC was right there with UWW, but UWW knew how to win.  2011 was the collapse vs. Wabash- credit to Wabash but at the same time, questionable defensive coaching by not bringing pressure.  2012 was Linfield.  I'm not saying NCC was better, but I believe entirely that if NCC sticks to the running game, Linfield would have been in serious trouble. 
In summary, NCC is a team on the brink IMO.  This year, their QB is lights out accurate- probably not going to throw 5 picks or whatever it was that he did vs Linfield. 

As for Bethel, I only watched them online vs. St. Thomas.  I was completely impressed with their fortitude when St. Thomas made the comeback.  They seem like a solid team that is well-coached and well-balanced.  They don't have the same playoff performance history that I've seen from NCC.  Didn't they do real well one year yet not have the ability to kick extra points?  If that's true, I imagine that sticks with me a whole lot.  That's unimagineable to me at the college level.         

We're not alone. Looks like Keith picked NCC over Bethel as well.

He must think the MIAC is weak as well   

Personally, I'm just fine with people picking Bethel to lose in the semi's or earlier. Set those expectations low! It'll all get worked out on the field...

[GoldandBlueBU]

We're not alone. Looks like Keith picked NCC over Bethel as well.

He must think the MIAC is weak as well   

Worth pointing out that he has also picked BU in his section for the "most likely top 25 team to be upset" several times this year, yet here they sit at 10-0.

[voice]

I just had an argument in regard to one of the hypothetical D3 semifinal games.

Hypothetically speaking... If UW-Whitewater and Mary Hardin-Baylor advance to the semifinal level where would that game be played?

[02 Warhawk]

I just had an argument in regard to one of the hypothetical D3 semifinal games.

Hypothetically speaking... If UW-Whitewater and Mary Hardin-Baylor advance to the semifinal level where would that game be played?

MHB, most people believe they are the #2 overall seed.

[02 Warhawk]

We're not alone. Looks like Keith picked NCC over Bethel as well.

He must think the MIAC is weak as well   

Worth pointing out that he has also picked BU in his section for the "most likely top 25 team to be upset" several times this year, yet here they sit at 10-0.

Even thought I think UWW has the toughest #2 team in its region, I still think Bethel has the toughest region overall.

[emma17]

We're not alone. Looks like Keith picked NCC over Bethel as well.

He must think the MIAC is weak as well   

Worth pointing out that he has also picked BU in his section for the "most likely top 25 team to be upset" several times this year, yet here they sit at 10-0.

Even thought I think UWW has the toughest #2 team in its region, I still think Bethel has the toughest region overall.

I think the Bethel bracket has 3 teams legitmately capable of going three rounds deep.  I don't see IWU or Wartburg as a 3 rounds deep team- so Bethel has a pretty good shot at 3 playoff games for sure. 

I'm really interested in the Franklin-Wash U game.  I'm having a hard time believing Franklin should be thought of less because of their loss to Blufton.   

[02 Warhawk]

Crazy (misleading) Stat of the Day

Whitewater's Red Zone defense is 240th out of 242 D3 schools. 90% of the time a team enters UWW's Red Zone they score. However, teams have only entered UWW's redzone 10 times this year (1 per game)!! 

The next best is 15 (Wabash)...in all of D3!

And this is a Whitewater team that has faced the 17th and 49th best offenses in the country.

[emma17]

Crazy (misleading) Stat of the Day

Whitewater's Red Zone defense is 240th out of 242 D3 schools. 90% of the time a team enters UWW's Red Zone they score. However, teams have only entered UWW's redzone 10 times this year (1 per game)!! 

The next best is 15 (Wabash)...in all of D3!

And this is a Whitewater team that has faced the 17th and 49th best offenses in the country.

I assume these rankings are current, which means they include the results of the teams' games vs UWW?

[02 Warhawk]

Crazy (misleading) Stat of the Day

Whitewater's Red Zone defense is 240th out of 242 D3 schools. 90% of the time a team enters UWW's Red Zone they score. However, teams have only entered UWW's redzone 10 times this year (1 per game)!! 

The next best is 15 (Wabash)...in all of D3!

And this is a Whitewater team that has faced the 17th and 49th best offenses in the country.

I assume these rankings are current, which means they include the results of the teams' games vs UWW?

Yep, as of today

[WarhawkDad]

Crazy (misleading) Stat of the Day

Whitewater's Red Zone defense is 240th out of 242 D3 schools. 90% of the time a team enters UWW's Red Zone they score. However, teams have only entered UWW's redzone 10 times this year (1 per game)!! 

The next best is 15 (Wabash)...in all of D3!

And this is a Whitewater team that has faced the 17th and 49th best offenses in the country.

I assume these rankings are current, which means they include the results of the teams' games vs UWW?

Yep, as of today

When you give up only 8 points a game and you have a takeway margin of +21 then very few teams make it to your redzone.    You know I was looking at defensive stats and Wash U. had a great defensive year.   The only team that scored more points than UWW on them was Hendrix who had the 20th best passing offense in the country.  The game was a shootout, so it will be an interesting first round test for Wash U. going against Franklin.   

WHD

[voice]

Crazy (misleading) Stat of the Day

Whitewater's Red Zone defense is 240th out of 242 D3 schools. 90% of the time a team enters UWW's Red Zone they score. However, teams have only entered UWW's redzone 10 times this year (1 per game)!! 

The next best is 15 (Wabash)...in all of D3!

And this is a Whitewater team that has faced the 17th and 49th best offenses in the country.

I assume these rankings are current, which means they include the results of the teams' games vs UWW?

Yep, as of today

When you give up only 8 points a game and you have a takeway margin of +21 then very few teams make it to your redzone.    You know I was looking at defensive stats and Wash U. had a great defensive year.   The only team that scored more points than UWW on them was Hendrix who had the 20th best passing offense in the country.  The game was a shootout, so it will be an interesting first round test for Wash U. going against Franklin.   

WHD

The first words from Coach Leipold in the postgame press conference following season opening UWW 17 Wash U win at the Perk ... Man, that was a really good team

[MasterJedi]

If there is enough interest by the students in attending, which I would assume there is, could enough people be motivated to start a fund to buy tickets to be put into a pool for use by students ao they could attend at no cost to them?

They university and the Kachel's and sometimes others but a couple thousand tickets for students, they just don't get them for some reason.