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emma17

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2014, 04:27:47 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on January 22, 2014, 08:40:56 AM
McDonald has not been out of the game and idle for several years as was the case with Stanley (as you pointed out). He is clearly an elite athlete as he was ranked #1 in ESPNU's Top 150 in Minnesota coming into his senior year of high school. I agree with you that none of that means he will strut into the WIAC and dominate. However, if he keeps his "game" together off the field, he will be a VERY dangerous and welcome weapon for the Falcons. I agree with you that it doesn't mean UST "dodged a bullet". However, I do think he will have a pretty big impact on the football field. I couldn't find much about him regarding basketball other than he intends to play at UWRF. Is he a stud in hoops as well?

If he keeps his off-field stuff together, AND he comes to UW-RF and works hard, yes. Anyone who struts in from D-I to D-III and thinks he can dominate is generally proven wrong pretty quickly. It's not like an NFL player going to play pro in Germany.

This brings up a good question. What position would more likely dominate when moving from D1 (assuming D1 stud) to D3?

retagent

If Brett Elliot at Linfield was any indication - QB.

AO

Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2014, 04:27:47 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on January 22, 2014, 08:40:56 AM
McDonald has not been out of the game and idle for several years as was the case with Stanley (as you pointed out). He is clearly an elite athlete as he was ranked #1 in ESPNU's Top 150 in Minnesota coming into his senior year of high school. I agree with you that none of that means he will strut into the WIAC and dominate. However, if he keeps his "game" together off the field, he will be a VERY dangerous and welcome weapon for the Falcons. I agree with you that it doesn't mean UST "dodged a bullet". However, I do think he will have a pretty big impact on the football field. I couldn't find much about him regarding basketball other than he intends to play at UWRF. Is he a stud in hoops as well?

If he keeps his off-field stuff together, AND he comes to UW-RF and works hard, yes. Anyone who struts in from D-I to D-III and thinks he can dominate is generally proven wrong pretty quickly. It's not like an NFL player going to play pro in Germany.
How many 4-star "top recruit in the state" transfers to D3 can there have been?

bleedpurple

Quote from: emma17 on January 22, 2014, 06:42:29 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on January 22, 2014, 04:27:47 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on January 22, 2014, 08:40:56 AM
McDonald has not been out of the game and idle for several years as was the case with Stanley (as you pointed out). He is clearly an elite athlete as he was ranked #1 in ESPNU's Top 150 in Minnesota coming into his senior year of high school. I agree with you that none of that means he will strut into the WIAC and dominate. However, if he keeps his "game" together off the field, he will be a VERY dangerous and welcome weapon for the Falcons. I agree with you that it doesn't mean UST "dodged a bullet". However, I do think he will have a pretty big impact on the football field. I couldn't find much about him regarding basketball other than he intends to play at UWRF. Is he a stud in hoops as well?

If he keeps his off-field stuff together, AND he comes to UW-RF and works hard, yes. Anyone who struts in from D-I to D-III and thinks he can dominate is generally proven wrong pretty quickly. It's not like an NFL player going to play pro in Germany.

This brings up a good question. What position would more likely dominate when moving from D1 (assuming D1 stud) to D3?

That is a great question. I think there are so many variables to it, though. My first thought was also QB. But then, his dominating will depend on protection and the ability of his receivers.  A RB is dependent on at least adequate run blocking. I think a D-1 stud defensive end would fare pretty well.

But in any case, I agree with Pat. So much would be determined by the player's attitude and work ethic.

02 Warhawk

#35359
Quote from: bleedpurple on January 22, 2014, 11:55:49 PM
Quote from: emma17 on January 22, 2014, 06:42:29 PM
This brings up a good question. What position would more likely dominate when moving from D1 (assuming D1 stud) to D3?

That is a great question. I think there are so many variables to it, though. My first thought was also QB. But then, his dominating will depend on protection and the ability of his receivers.  A RB is dependent on at least adequate run blocking. I think a D-1 stud defensive end would fare pretty well.

But in any case, I agree with Pat. So much would be determined by the player's attitude and work ethic.

I was thinking along the same lines as bleed. Offensive players rely heavily on their teammates to succeed. It all boils down to the O-line on offense. That's why I think McDonald may not have the success everyone claims he'll have. UWRF's QB and O-line was very sub par last year. Defenses will double team him, leaving nobody else on roster that'll scare anyone.

My pick would be a DI transfer on the defensive side of the ball: D-line or Linebacker. I'll probably lean a little more towards Linebacker, just because a d-lineman can be double teamed on the line. Whereas a Linebacker can run freely all over the field and cause all sorts of havoc.

Elliot had great success because the players around him were outstanding. Throw a D1 QB into a DIII program that already has an established O-line and solid WRs....yea, it's no wonder they dominated in 2004 and most of 2005. It was the perfect scenario for Elliot to succeed in. If Elliot transferred to a Lewis and Clark program instead, there's no way he has the same success and all that hardware he does now.

emma17

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on January 23, 2014, 08:27:14 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on January 22, 2014, 11:55:49 PM
Quote from: emma17 on January 22, 2014, 06:42:29 PM
This brings up a good question. What position would more likely dominate when moving from D1 (assuming D1 stud) to D3?

That is a great question. I think there are so many variables to it, though. My first thought was also QB. But then, his dominating will depend on protection and the ability of his receivers.  A RB is dependent on at least adequate run blocking. I think a D-1 stud defensive end would fare pretty well.

But in any case, I agree with Pat. So much would be determined by the player's attitude and work ethic.

I was thinking along the same lines as bleed. Offensive players rely heavily on their teammates to succeed. It all boils down to the O-line on offense. That's why I think McDonald may not have the success everyone claims he'll have. UWRF's QB and O-line was very sub par last year. Defenses will double team him, leaving nobody else on roster that'll scare anyone.

My pick would be a DI transfer on the defensive side of the ball: D-line or Linebacker. I'll probably lean a little more towards Linebacker, just because a d-lineman can be double teamed on the line. Whereas a Linebacker can run freely all over the field and cause all sorts of havoc.

Elliot had great success because the players around him were outstanding. Throw a D1 QB into a DIII program that already has an established O-line and solid WRs....yea, it's no wonder they dominated in 2004 and most of 2005. It was the perfect scenario for Elliot to succeed in. If Elliot transferred to a Lewis and Clark program instead, there's no way he has the same success and all that hardware he does now.

I'm thinking D Line as well. I think a stud D tackle or end would be clearly dominant to the fans in the stands. An O line can try to double team but the speed and strength of a real stud would render the double team useless I think.
Along these lines, I can think of D3 players from nearly every position that made it to the NFL- except for D line.
Wesley had an end a few years ago- not sure if he made it.

voice

#35361
The Wisconsin State Journal has a sports poll published today asking which Wisconsin sports team/competitor had the best year in 2013? (Packers, Brewers, Bucks, Badgers football, basketball, basketball, hockey, Badger women's volleyball, Warhawk football, Steve Stricker, Matt Kenseth and someone else are the choices on the ballot.

Warhawk Football is currently ranked 2nd in the poll vote.

Click on the link to vote (Poll is on the far right of page about halfway down)

http://host.madison.com/sports/college/basketball/men/badgers-men-s-basketball-hot-shooting-minnesota-sends-uw-to/article_b193159c-a704-5060-b2b5-14230f4526e4.html

02 Warhawk

Quote from: voice on January 23, 2014, 01:18:36 PM
The Wisconsin State Journal has a sports poll published today asking which Wisconsin sports team/competitor had the best year in 2013? (Packers, Brewers, Bucks, Badgers football, basketball, basketball, hockey, Badger women's volleyball, Warhawk football, Steve Stricker, Matt Kenseth and someone else are the choices on the ballot.

Warhawk Football is currently ranked 2nd in the poll vote.

Click on the link to vote (Poll is on the far right of page about halfway down)

http://host.madison.com/sports/college/basketball/men/badgers-men-s-basketball-hot-shooting-minnesota-sends-uw-to/article_b193159c-a704-5060-b2b5-14230f4526e4.html

I take it Badgers V-ball won the NCAA championship?

bleedpurple

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on January 23, 2014, 02:07:19 PM
Quote from: voice on January 23, 2014, 01:18:36 PM
The Wisconsin State Journal has a sports poll published today asking which Wisconsin sports team/competitor had the best year in 2013? (Packers, Brewers, Bucks, Badgers football, basketball, basketball, hockey, Badger women's volleyball, Warhawk football, Steve Stricker, Matt Kenseth and someone else are the choices on the ballot.

Warhawk Football is currently ranked 2nd in the poll vote.

Click on the link to vote (Poll is on the far right of page about halfway down)

http://host.madison.com/sports/college/basketball/men/badgers-men-s-basketball-hot-shooting-minnesota-sends-uw-to/article_b193159c-a704-5060-b2b5-14230f4526e4.html

I take it Badgers V-ball won the NCAA championship?

They got second place, but in the semi's they had one of the greatest upsets in the history of the tournament beating #1 seed Texas (the Badgers were a 12 seed). At last check, 315 people actually voted for the Bucks, and NONE for the Brewers. UW-W has 6,672 votes and UW Women's Volleyball 8,440.

badgerwarhawk

The BADGERS volleyball team's win over Texas was really something.  What was also interesting was the similarity to the last time the team made the Final Four.  John Cook had left the program to coach in Nebraska and Pete Waite was a first year coach.  Waite was never able to achieve that again. This time Pete Waite was let go and first year coach Kelly Sheffield led the team to the Final Four.  Hopefully he'll be able to do it again sometime soon. 

I never had a clue about volleyball until my daughters starting playing it in high school and later collegiately.  But I've come to really like it.  Players are generally very athletic and the action is fast paced so I find it very entertaining. 
"Strange days have found us.  Strange days have tracked us down." .... J. Morrison

02 Warhawk

#35365
Quote from: bleedpurple on January 23, 2014, 04:00:16 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on January 23, 2014, 02:07:19 PM
Quote from: voice on January 23, 2014, 01:18:36 PM
The Wisconsin State Journal has a sports poll published today asking which Wisconsin sports team/competitor had the best year in 2013? (Packers, Brewers, Bucks, Badgers football, basketball, basketball, hockey, Badger women's volleyball, Warhawk football, Steve Stricker, Matt Kenseth and someone else are the choices on the ballot.

Warhawk Football is currently ranked 2nd in the poll vote.

Click on the link to vote (Poll is on the far right of page about halfway down)

http://host.madison.com/sports/college/basketball/men/badgers-men-s-basketball-hot-shooting-minnesota-sends-uw-to/article_b193159c-a704-5060-b2b5-14230f4526e4.html

I take it Badgers V-ball won the NCAA championship?

They got second place, but in the semi's they had one of the greatest upsets in the history of the tournament beating #1 seed Texas (the Badgers were a 12 seed). At last check, 315 people actually voted for the Bucks, and NONE for the Brewers. UW-W has 6,672 votes and UW Women's Volleyball 8,440.

Call me when they beat the top three teams in the tournament, and take home the championship.  ;D

J/k

bleedpurple

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on January 23, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
The BADGERS volleyball team's win over Texas was really something.  What was also interesting was the similarity to the last time the team made the Final Four.  John Cook had left the program to coach in Nebraska and Pete Waite was a first year coach.  Waite was never able to achieve that again. This time Pete Waite was let go and first year coach Kelly Sheffield led the team to the Final Four.  Hopefully he'll be able to do it again sometime soon. 

I never had a clue about volleyball until my daughters starting playing it in high school and later collegiately.  But I've come to really like it.  Players are generally very athletic and the action is fast paced so I find it very entertaining.

Since you follow it pretty closely, I have a question for you. It will sound silly, but I'm serious. Who would win at volleyball, the UW Women's volleyball team or the UW-W football team?

02 Warhawk

#35367
Quote from: bleedpurple on January 24, 2014, 08:15:02 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on January 23, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
The BADGERS volleyball team's win over Texas was really something.  What was also interesting was the similarity to the last time the team made the Final Four.  John Cook had left the program to coach in Nebraska and Pete Waite was a first year coach.  Waite was never able to achieve that again. This time Pete Waite was let go and first year coach Kelly Sheffield led the team to the Final Four.  Hopefully he'll be able to do it again sometime soon. 

I never had a clue about volleyball until my daughters starting playing it in high school and later collegiately.  But I've come to really like it.  Players are generally very athletic and the action is fast paced so I find it very entertaining.

Since you follow it pretty closely, I have a question for you. It will sound silly, but I'm serious. Who would win at volleyball, the UW Women's volleyball team or the UW-W football team?

If I may add my two cents...Not only would the UW Volleyball team spank the Whitewater football team in V-ball...I believe the UW-W women's volleyball team would destroy them as well.

footballfan413

#35368
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on January 24, 2014, 08:24:01 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on January 24, 2014, 08:15:02 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on January 23, 2014, 04:29:21 PM
The BADGERS volleyball team's win over Texas was really something.  What was also interesting was the similarity to the last time the team made the Final Four.  John Cook had left the program to coach in Nebraska and Pete Waite was a first year coach.  Waite was never able to achieve that again. This time Pete Waite was let go and first year coach Kelly Sheffield led the team to the Final Four.  Hopefully he'll be able to do it again sometime soon. 

I never had a clue about volleyball until my daughters starting playing it in high school and later collegiately.  But I've come to really like it.  Players are generally very athletic and the action is fast paced so I find it very entertaining.

Since you follow it pretty closely, I have a question for you. It will sound silly, but I'm serious. Who would win at volleyball, the UW Women's volleyball team or the UW-W football team?

If I may add my two cents...Not only would the UW Volleyball team spank the Whitewater football team in V-ball...I believe the UW-W women's volleyball team would destroy them as well.
No question!  My niece was one of the top high school volleyball players in Minnesota back in the late 90's and I watched her team win State one year.  Heavily recruited D-1, she has my brother's height.  ;) Those girls are incredible athletes with serious skills at a sport they have played, year around in club leagues, since elementary school, in most cases.  Not sure the girls would, "destroy," them but the nuances of play and teamwork between positions, athletic, "digs," to keep the ball in play, can not be duplicated by casual players. 
"Of course, that's just my opinion, I could be wrong!"  Dennis Miller

"Three things you don't want to be in football, slow, small and friendly!"  John Madden

"You can learn more character on the two-yard line than anywhere else in
life." Paul Dietzel / LSU

badgerwarhawk

I would have to agree with you 413.  It wouldn't even be a contest.   
"Strange days have found us.  Strange days have tracked us down." .... J. Morrison