FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[badgerwarhawk]

My favorite SEC team is any team that beats Arkansas.  So far that's been most of them. 

[BoBo]

I think the thing that's crazy about the MIAC right now is no one really knows who the top 2 teams are. UST, Bethel, GAC, SJU and Cobbers; pick your two and you'd have a legit argument at this point.

I've always believed that when you have difficulty telling a truly good team in a conference from everybody else, it's a sure sign of mediocrity throughout.

As much as it pains me to say it...ever hear of the SEC??

I see you're another victim of the ESPN/SEC brainwashing.

Though I'm in Korea, I try to watch some SEC Channel online on one of the streaming sports channels nearly every day just for kicks. They are really quite full of themselves down there in Dixie.  For example, let me tell you that it's true that they treated Indiana's win over Mizzou in Columbia as though it never happened. That was the week after Bowling Green beat IU and on the same day that the Badgers destroyed BGSU. As you know Mizzou beat South Carolina this past weekend, and as painful as it is for you, you can believe anything you want.  But that Mizzou win in the other Columbia means IMO and in the opinion of national CFB analysts that the SEC East is even weaker than it looks currently. If you can't see the difference there, then you don't know the SEC, CFB and I question your insight trying to school me on this issue. I totally understand the SEC strength, and they are the BEST conference, but their leverage lies in the SEC West, the best DIVISION in CFB by far, and not the rest of the league. There are some excellent football teams playing the usual high level football in that conference right now, but there are also some football teams playing very badly there too. And it's pretty much split between the divisions - pretty amazing really and easy to spot with a trained eye!!  Watch it for yourself sometime this weekend, you'll see.

So much for trying to remain off the board for a little while longer.

I'm a Husker fan, so I'm never guilty of drinking the SEC or especially Mizzou cool aid.

That said, ESPN had the Indiana upset on the front page. They gave it plenty of air time.

I'm not saying the SEC has the best 6 teams in College football. But they've got depth, especially the West. Your argument only works if you focus on a weak East division. aTm, Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, LSU and even Miss St are pretty solid football teams. It's totally unclear who will come out on top. So, by your logic, these teams are all mediocre?? Not a chance. Are they all elite. No, but there's some good football being played in that division. And Wisconsin can attest to the saltiness of LSU, which might finish 4th or 5th in that mediocre West division.

Ha, what a joke!!  Wisconsin had that game won against "the saltiness of LSU" until they lost their second experienced interior lineman to injury (Badgers were dominate until then) during this game and decided not to use Melvin Gordon (3 carries) in the second half to some mysterious hip-flexor problem that even Melvin himself indicated wasn't a problem. Leave it to a Cornhusker to talk about saltiness, something that hasn't been seen in Lincoln in a long time, unless it was your opponent.  And BTW, I did say the SEC West is the best Division in CFB by far, not mediocre.

[hazzben]

^^ so it's just Wisconsins depth and play calling that are mediocre 

[BoBo]

^^ so it's just Wisconsins depth and play calling that are mediocre 

Sheesh.... talk about throwing breadcrumbs at the pigeons.

This is how the Blackshirts roll...

When you turn if off after the first 1:05, please advance to the 6:41 mark for the finest play of mediocre defense.  Surprised no one got fired after this game.

I'm done...Bobo out.

[02 Warhawk]

Switching gears back to the D3 football....I'm excited the WIAC portion of the schedule is kicking off this weekend. Some questions I'm looking to find out:

1. How good (or bad) is Oshkosh now that they finally get to play a DIII opponent this weekend?
2. Is Stevens Point for real? A playoff bid might be on the line when they travel to Platteville on the 18th.
3. Is there an offense in the WIAC that will exploit the inexperienced LBs of UWW? UWP possibly.
4. Will UWRF finally get out of the WIAC cellar? That might be determined on 10/25 when the Blugolds comes to town. FYI, UWEC's first six games are as follows: @ St. Thomas, St. John's, @ Wheaton, UWP, @ UWSP, UWW....yikes 

[NewHawk]

Switching gears back to the D3 football....I'm excited the WIAC portion of the schedule is kicking off this weekend. Some questions I'm looking to find out:

1. How good (or bad) is Oshkosh now that they finally get to play a DIII opponent this weekend?
2. Is Stevens Point for real? A playoff bid might be on the line when they travel to Platteville on the 18th.
3. Is there an offense in the WIAC that will exploit the inexperienced LBs of UWW? UWP possibly.
4. Will UWRF finally get out of the WIAC cellar? That might be determined on 10/25 when the Blugolds comes to town. FYI, UWEC's first six games are as follows: @ St. Thomas, St. John's, @ Wheaton, UWP, @ UWSP, UWW....yikes 

We will see what Platteville is capable of, but after watching the UWSP v NCC I think they have a pretty good short passing game and that it my biggest concern with the new LB's at UWW.  The d-line will need to continue to pressure the QB's to give the LB's some breathing room but UWW has to shut down the quick passes in the middle that have seemed to give them trouble throughout the year.  That being said, I am a Georgia alum and will tell everyone that if GA had a quarterback with the arm strength to throw the ball further than 10 yds GA would be in the hunt this year with the best running back in D1. They get their 2 best receivers back on the field this week for the first time this year.  I have seen Big 10 football and the top 5 of big ten don't get close to the top 5 the of SEC.
    All that being said I will be in Whitewater watching my favorite receiver, Jake Kumerow along with the top defense in D3 football.  Looking forward to a great game with the Warkhawks coming out  on top. 

[MasterJedi]

Not football news (but there is some sports news attached) but I thought people might be curious about the campus master plan that UWW has in the works. Found this yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCC1X6r-imo

[emma17]

Switching gears back to the D3 football....I'm excited the WIAC portion of the schedule is kicking off this weekend. Some questions I'm looking to find out:

1. How good (or bad) is Oshkosh now that they finally get to play a DIII opponent this weekend?
2. Is Stevens Point for real? A playoff bid might be on the line when they travel to Platteville on the 18th.
3. Is there an offense in the WIAC that will exploit the inexperienced LBs of UWW? UWP possibly.
4. Will UWRF finally get out of the WIAC cellar? That might be determined on 10/25 when the Blugolds comes to town. FYI, UWEC's first six games are as follows: @ St. Thomas, St. John's, @ Wheaton, UWP, @ UWSP, UWW....yikes 

Like Newhawk said, I think the UWSP offense I saw vs NCC will certainly test the rookie LB's- as should UWP. In fact I think every team that plays UWW should try to do so- UW's SP and P appear to be most capable at this point. 

I'll say it now- I'll be shocked if UWO doesn't roll to victory in WIAC game 1.  The pounded becomes the pounder.

Is UWSP for real?  Still a tad bit early to predict how they will hold up over the WIAC schedule. That said, I was blown away by their refusal to fold vs NCC. They had multiple guys make big plays in critical moments- not something you normally see from a pretender.

I hope they are for real- home game for the Dub.

[badgerwarhawk]

Switching gears back to the D3 football....I'm excited the WIAC portion of the schedule is kicking off this weekend. Some questions I'm looking to find out:

1. How good (or bad) is Oshkosh now that they finally get to play a DIII opponent this weekend?
2. Is Stevens Point for real? A playoff bid might be on the line when they travel to Platteville on the 18th.
3. Is there an offense in the WIAC that will exploit the inexperienced LBs of UWW? UWP possibly.
4. Will UWRF finally get out of the WIAC cellar? That might be determined on 10/25 when the Blugolds comes to town. FYI, UWEC's first six games are as follows: @ St. Thomas, St. John's, @ Wheaton, UWP, @ UWSP, UWW....yikes 

We will see what Platteville is capable of, but after watching the UWSP v NCC I think they have a pretty good short passing game and that it my biggest concern with the new LB's at UWW.  The d-line will need to continue to pressure the QB's to give the LB's some breathing room but UWW has to shut down the quick passes in the middle that have seemed to give them trouble throughout the year.  That being said, I am a Georgia alum and will tell everyone that if GA had a quarterback with the arm strength to throw the ball further than 10 yds GA would be in the hunt this year with the best running back in D1. They get their 2 best receivers back on the field this week for the first time this year.  I have seen Big 10 football and the top 5 of big ten don't get close to the top 5 the of SEC.
    All that being said I will be in Whitewater watching my favorite receiver, Jake Kumerow along with the top defense in D3 football.  Looking forward to a great game with the Warkhawks coming out  on top. 

Melvin Gordon is the best running back in D1. 

[hazzben]

^^ so it's just Wisconsins depth and play calling that are mediocre 

Sheesh.... talk about throwing breadcrumbs at the pigeons.

This is how the Blackshirts roll...

When you turn if off after the first 1:05, please advance to the 6:41 mark for the finest play of mediocre defense.  Surprised no one got fired after this game.

I'm done...Bobo out.

You guys nailed us in 2012 (at least in that title game), I'm the first to admit it.

But, all this reminiscing about years past gets me distracted by Nebraska's national titles, conference titles, record number of academic all americans, all americans, multiple heismans, etc. You get the picture. What's it say when your coach leaves because he doesn't think he can ever win a Nat'l title there   

For your viewing pleasure:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oO18ZbCLbE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRpZl4pImRo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDwNGT8KP-E

Historically, your best teams are really good. Well, good enough to make it to the Rose Bowl anyway, not necessarily win one.

Ours, well, you get the picture 

The banter is fun! Hopefully it builds to the point where both teams are playing for something in November! Than we can really talk some smack 

[hazzben]

So look at the contenders. Would you move 3 of these over LSU, Mississippi State and Ole Miss? Maybe. BYU, Nebraska and maybe someone else. So you move the bottom SEC West teams 3 spots down and Texas A&M one spot for UCLA. There STILL isn't a division in the country that wouldn't trade with the SEC West.

I agree on the strength of the SEC West. Crazy depth and quality.

My issue is the SEC bias carries over the East. Case in point. Nebraska starts out the season unranked and Georgia is a top 10 team. Why? In January Nebraska beat them head to head on a 'neutral' site bowl game. Same starting qb's, all-american rb's and substantively similar defenses. How does Nebraska win the H2H and get no credit in the pre-season/early season polls and Georgia does. Now Georgia has an ugly loss, and they're still multiple spots ahead.

Again, the West is crazy, the East (Mizzou, FL, USC, Georgia), not so much.

[NewHawk]

So look at the contenders. Would you move 3 of these over LSU, Mississippi State and Ole Miss? Maybe. BYU, Nebraska and maybe someone else. So you move the bottom SEC West teams 3 spots down and Texas A&M one spot for UCLA. There STILL isn't a division in the country that wouldn't trade with the SEC West.

I agree on the strength of the SEC West. Crazy depth and quality.

My issue is the SEC bias carries over the East. Case in point. Nebraska starts out the season unranked and Georgia is a top 10 team. Why? In January Nebraska beat them head to head on a 'neutral' site bowl game. Same starting qb's, all-american rb's and substantively similar defenses. How does Nebraska win the H2H and get no credit in the pre-season/early season polls and Georgia does. Now Georgia has an ugly loss, and they're still multiple spots ahead.

Again, the West is crazy, the East (Mizzou, FL, USC, Georgia), not so much.

I am only guessing but maybe almost losing to McNeese State has something to do with the Blackshirts being where they are.  Ga lost to a ranked team by 3 points. GA will not win the SEC but they played Troy, a team similar to McNeese, and beat them 66-0.  .
That is the end of my D1 comments. I will only speak of D3 from this point forward.

[hazzben]

So look at the contenders. Would you move 3 of these over LSU, Mississippi State and Ole Miss? Maybe. BYU, Nebraska and maybe someone else. So you move the bottom SEC West teams 3 spots down and Texas A&M one spot for UCLA. There STILL isn't a division in the country that wouldn't trade with the SEC West.

I agree on the strength of the SEC West. Crazy depth and quality.

My issue is the SEC bias carries over the East. Case in point. Nebraska starts out the season unranked and Georgia is a top 10 team. Why? In January Nebraska beat them head to head on a 'neutral' site bowl game. Same starting qb's, all-american rb's and substantively similar defenses. How does Nebraska win the H2H and get no credit in the pre-season/early season polls and Georgia does. Now Georgia has an ugly loss, and they're still multiple spots ahead.

Again, the West is crazy, the East (Mizzou, FL, USC, Georgia), not so much.

I am only guessing but maybe almost losing to McNeese State has something to do with the Blackshirts being where they are.  Ga lost to a ranked team by 3 points. GA will not win the SEC but they played Troy, a team similar to McNeese, and beat them 66-0.  .
That is the end of my D1 comments. I will only speak of D3 from this point forward.

I think the McNeese St result absolutely explains part of Nebraska's current ranking. And it's a valid data point this early in the season. I've got no point with Nebraska being where they are. Let's see what happens Saturday. A win against MSU, to go along with a win against Miami, and Nebraska has cred. Until then, no problem with their slotting.

My point/beef, however, is with the preseason polls. This is where you see the SEC bias (unwarranted for an SEC East team). Sure, Ga beat Troy (I'd argue McNeese state also beats 0-5 Troy). They also lost to USC and barely beat UT at home.

Those preseason polls have undo influence on the bulldogs still being ranked #13. Based on returning starters and a H2H boll game 9 months ago, Nebraska should have started at or above Ga in the polls.

By the way, they're the cornhuskers. The Blackshirts is just the nickname of the defensive starters 

[NewHawk]

So look at the contenders. Would you move 3 of these over LSU, Mississippi State and Ole Miss? Maybe. BYU, Nebraska and maybe someone else. So you move the bottom SEC West teams 3 spots down and Texas A&M one spot for UCLA. There STILL isn't a division in the country that wouldn't trade with the SEC West.

I agree on the strength of the SEC West. Crazy depth and quality.

My issue is the SEC bias carries over the East. Case in point. Nebraska starts out the season unranked and Georgia is a top 10 team. Why? In January Nebraska beat them head to head on a 'neutral' site bowl game. Same starting qb's, all-american rb's and substantively similar defenses. How does Nebraska win the H2H and get no credit in the pre-season/early season polls and Georgia does. Now Georgia has an ugly loss, and they're still multiple spots ahead.

Again, the West is crazy, the East (Mizzou, FL, USC, Georgia), not so much.

I am only guessing but maybe almost losing to McNeese State has something to do with the Blackshirts being where they are.  Ga lost to a ranked team by 3 points. GA will not win the SEC but they played Troy, a team similar to McNeese, and beat them 66-0.  .
That is the end of my D1 comments. I will only speak of D3 from this point forward.

I think the McNeese St result absolutely explains part of Nebraska's current ranking. And it's a valid data point this early in the season. I've got no point with Nebraska being where they are. Let's see what happens Saturday. A win against MSU, to go along with a win against Miami, and Nebraska has cred. Until then, no problem with their slotting.

My point/beef, however, is with the preseason polls. This is where you see the SEC bias (unwarranted for an SEC East team). Sure, Ga beat Troy (I'd argue McNeese state also beats 0-5 Troy). They also lost to USC and barely beat UT at home.

Those preseason polls have undo influence on the bulldogs still being ranked #13. Based on returning starters and a H2H boll game 9 months ago, Nebraska should have started at or above Ga in the polls.

By the way, they're the cornhuskers. The Blackshirts is just the nickname of the defensive starters 

I could have called them the Bug Eaters, which my NE loving neighbors claim was the original name of the team. But all that aside , thank God for football and the fans who love it. Go warhawks

[hazzben]

^^ I actually had a Bugeaters hat in high school. Loved that hat!

And agreed. Fun to talk and debate about football