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bleedpurple

Voice has written another column for warhawkfootball.com!  This mornings postings:

"VOICE ON ESPN COVERAGE"

"HOW DID YOU KNOW? WIAC PREDICTIONS" (12-0 so far this year)

Both links are posted in the "UW-OSHKOSH GAME CENTRAL".  Just scroll down the front page.

www.warhawkfootball.com

emma17

Quote from: BoBo on October 23, 2014, 09:39:54 PM
If you want to know a simple reason for the Warhawks being so good - look at the two coaches and their career records - both in their 8th season, all at their current school. UW-O Pat Cerroni 50-29 LL 100-6.  So, in essence, WW has played nearly double the number of games, in the same period of time, as Oshkosh - or extending this further, nearly everyone else in the league. Don't think actually playing games, with the extra practice time doens't make a difference? Look no further as the reason for WW's success, IMO.

Bobo your point is well taken and no doubt the extra practice time is hugely beneficial.
But the coaching has to be there before the practice time advantage starts to accumulate. And it certainly has to be in place w recruiting and all the rest.

On another note- we talk often of the strength of UWW's staff. However, it's not a staff that has been together in entirety much at all. I believe only coach Borland has been in place all years w coach LL. Borland of course is a huge part of the UWW success. But major kudos to coach LL for continuously bringing in new staff over the years.

02 Warhawk

#36287
Quote from: emma17 on October 24, 2014, 01:07:37 PM
Quote from: BoBo on October 23, 2014, 09:39:54 PM
If you want to know a simple reason for the Warhawks being so good - look at the two coaches and their career records - both in their 8th season, all at their current school. UW-O Pat Cerroni 50-29 LL 100-6.  So, in essence, WW has played nearly double the number of games, in the same period of time, as Oshkosh - or extending this further, nearly everyone else in the league. Don't think actually playing games, with the extra practice time doens't make a difference? Look no further as the reason for WW's success, IMO.

Bobo your point is well taken and no doubt the extra practice time is hugely beneficial.
But the coaching has to be there before the practice time advantage starts to accumulate. And it certainly has to be in place w recruiting and all the rest.

On another note- we talk often of the strength of UWW's staff. However, it's not a staff that has been together in entirety much at all. I believe only coach Borland has been in place all years w coach LL. Borland of course is a huge part of the UWW success. But major kudos to coach LL for continuously bringing in new staff over the years.

Exactly. The defense and their coaches have pretty much remained a constant during this run. However, I believe UWW is on it 4th offensive coordinator since 2006? Not to mention the yearly turnover on the rest of the offensive staff.

LL deserves a lot of credit for continuing to bring in great new coaches on the offensive side. You would have to think the success of the team also a great selling point on why many brilliant up-and-coming coaches want to coach here. Just like it's easy to attract top recruits when your team is winning...I'm sure it works the same for coaches too.

bleedpurple

Quote from: emma17 on October 24, 2014, 01:07:37 PM
Quote from: BoBo on October 23, 2014, 09:39:54 PM
If you want to know a simple reason for the Warhawks being so good - look at the two coaches and their career records - both in their 8th season, all at their current school. UW-O Pat Cerroni 50-29 LL 100-6.  So, in essence, WW has played nearly double the number of games, in the same period of time, as Oshkosh - or extending this further, nearly everyone else in the league. Don't think actually playing games, with the extra practice time doens't make a difference? Look no further as the reason for WW's success, IMO.

Bobo your point is well taken and no doubt the extra practice time is hugely beneficial.
But the coaching has to be there before the practice time advantage starts to accumulate. And it certainly has to be in place w recruiting and all the rest.

On another note- we talk often of the strength of UWW's staff. However, it's not a staff that has been together in entirety much at all. I believe only coach Borland has been in place all years w coach LL. Borland of course is a huge part of the UWW success. But major kudos to coach LL for continuously bringing in new staff over the years.

Emma, congratulations on using a quote and posting it correctly. I was beginning to wonder what happened to your posting skills.  ;)


Brian R. Carroll

The La Crosse Eagles face The Pointers of Stevens Point in a critical road game Saturday. It strikes me as UWL's game of the year. If La Crosse's senior dominated team is to finish at .500 this year, this game is a must. Are the Pointers a top twenty team, or were they exposed as pretenders last weekend in Platteville ? Moreover, which program is closer to returning to contender status ? Point has, it seems to me, been "spooked" by La Crosse in the past. This has cost them some games they might otherwise have won. Will that happen again ? I sadly suspect not. Pointers will win 28-13, and I will utter my ghostly halloween cheer of "boo".

BoBo

#36290
FYI - the University of Michigan Scout message board has a long thread suggesting Coach LL as Brady Hoke's replacement. Some of the posts are really funny.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=162&f=2019&t=13269789

And Bleedpurple, some guy on the Wisconsin Scout message boards claims Coach Perkins was once offered a position on the Green Bay Packers by none other than Vince Lombardi. Any truth to that?
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

voice

Quote from: BoBo on October 25, 2014, 08:53:36 AM
FYI - the University of Michigan Scout message board has a long thread suggesting Coach LL as Brady Hoke's replacement. Some of the posts are really funny.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=162&f=2019&t=13269789

And Bleedpurple, some guy on the Wisconsin Scout message boards claims Coach Perkins was once offered a position on the Green Bay Packers by none other than Vince Lombardi. Any truth to that?

I'm not BadgerWarhawk but I can tell you that the Perk to Green Bay scenario did occur

voice


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Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 25, 2014, 10:40:15 AM
Here's the link to the GameDay piece:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=11757431
I thought ESPN did a pretty nice job with it...  Not always the case when they cover the non-FBS schools.
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MasterJedi

Tough hard fought win as the last 3 years have been for both sides. Hopefully Kumerow will be back next week against UWP. Their defense has not been as good as Oshkosh and with Kumerow they have a chance for it to be a bigger win then last year when again, Kumerow was hurt for most of that game.

retagent

Attended UWW/Osh game with Warhak alum. That may be the least exciting UWW game I've seen. That being said, it looked as though UWW was never in any danger. Just quietly efficient. UWO defense looked pretty good. Not much on the offensive side. One unit is experienced, the other - not so much.

02 Warhawk

Quote from: retagent on October 25, 2014, 07:13:03 PM
Attended UWW/Osh game with Warhak alum. That may be the least exciting UWW game I've seen. That being said, it looked as though UWW was never in any danger. Just quietly efficient. UWO defense looked pretty good. Not much on the offensive side. One unit is experienced, the other - not so much.

I agree. I was there too...very uneventful game. When kumerow went out they really took their foot off the pedal the rest of the game. Seems like they really held back.

Next week will be a tough test on the road.

bleedpurple

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 25, 2014, 07:57:02 PM
Quote from: retagent on October 25, 2014, 07:13:03 PM
Attended UWW/Osh game with Warhak alum. That may be the least exciting UWW game I've seen. That being said, it looked as though UWW was never in any danger. Just quietly efficient. UWO defense looked pretty good. Not much on the offensive side. One unit is experienced, the other - not so much.

I agree. I was there too...very uneventful game. When kumerow went out they really took their foot off the pedal the rest of the game. Seems like they really held back.

Next week will be a tough test on the road.

I agree as well. I don't think I'm actually genetically capable of being bored at a UW-W game per se. However, I can see why people would have been. Unfortunately, the way the game unfolded (not to mention the Kumerow injury) UW-W fans probably didn't get many answers today as to how good this team can be.  For whatever reason (probably talent, size, and experience), the UW-O front 7 is a tough match-up for the UW-W offensive line. UW-W wasn't able to break anything in the running game today with their longest run being only 11 yards. I agree with 02, it did feel like UW-W tucked things in a bit when Kumerow went out.  And when they tuck it in against UW-O, that will keep things close because of the UW-O front seven being able to win their share of battles at the line of scrimmage. I can see reasoning behind the decision, especially if Kumerow was a huge part of the game plan and the coaches felt like when he went down, "Lets just get out of here with our win and not take any chances". I agree with Ret and I'm sure the coaches saw the same thing, UW-O didn't really pose a threat.  In my mind, the wake up call, if there is a wake up call to be had, might be that UW-W's offense can be significantly slowed down when: 1. Kumerow is not able to play. 2. The defensive front seven of the opposing team is able to play the UW-W O-line to a stand-off.  3. The above happens when UW-W has themselves a two TD lead and the coaches feel no particular urgency to take any chances.  What I'm left trying to figure out is that how much 1 had to do with 2 happening (given the first two drives for UW-W were long TD drives with Kumerow in the line-up). And also trying to figure out how much 3 played into it. Well, if nothing else, I guess there is plenty to discuss this week.  Heal fast, Jake!

bleedpurple

Quote from: BoBo on October 25, 2014, 08:53:36 AM
FYI - the University of Michigan Scout message board has a long thread suggesting Coach LL as Brady Hoke's replacement. Some of the posts are really funny.

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=162&f=2019&t=13269789

And Bleedpurple, some guy on the Wisconsin Scout message boards claims Coach Perkins was once offered a position on the Green Bay Packers by none other than Vince Lombardi. Any truth to that?

Yes, Lombardi wanted to hire Perk as the running backs coach. I will have to share the story sometime. It is actually a pretty funny story. Let's just say Coach Lombardi was neither used to nor fond of someone saying no to him.