FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[wally_wabash]

Isn't it possible Jago could find something intriguing about coming back to coach his alma mater and try to succeed in keeping the program at an elite level, recognizing full well it might be the death of any advancement dreams he has?

I guess I don't think that that is even possible.  I know people get the googly eyes when a HC position opens up and they start pointing to alums that live in a different stratosphere now and think "hey, maybe he'll come home."  It just doesn't work that way.  A couple of years ago when Wooster had an opening there was some scuttlebutt about an alum that is/was the OC at FAU coming home to resurrect the program.  They ended up with the OC from Lycoming.  The economics between D3 and FBS are so vastly different...people don't move from FBS coordinator to D3 HC on purpose.  It's just not realistic. 

I mean, I guess there's no harm in hypothesizing and daydreaming on those kinds of possibilities (that's not even a fair word to use), but I think this topic of who's the next HC at Whitewater is more interesting if we pick out realistic replacements.  Glenn Caruso is an interesting name.  Mike Leonard is an interesting name.  Borland is interesting.  Jagodzinski is fantasy land. 

[D3MAFAN]

Isn't it possible Jago could find something intriguing about coming back to coach his alma mater and try to succeed in keeping the program at an elite level, recognizing full well it might be the death of any advancement dreams he has?

I guess I don't think that that is even possible.  I know people get the googly eyes when a HC position opens up and they start pointing to alums that live in a different stratosphere now and think "hey, maybe he'll come home."  It just doesn't work that way.  A couple of years ago when Wooster had an opening there was some scuttlebutt about an alum that is/was the OC at FAU coming home to resurrect the program.  They ended up with the OC from Lycoming.  The economics between D3 and FBS are so vastly different...people don't move from FBS coordinator to D3 HC on purpose.  It's just not realistic. 

I mean, I guess there's no harm in hypothesizing and daydreaming on those kinds of possibilities (that's not even a fair word to use), but I think this topic of who's the next HC at Whitewater is more interesting if we pick out realistic replacements.  Glenn Caruso is an interesting name.  Mike Leonard is an interesting name.  Borland is interesting.  Jagodzinski is fantasy land.

I was thinking the same thing.

[KitchenSink]

They have talked about the "Whitewater Family" in the past.  Will the new man have Whitewater ties? 

How about that Raebel guy, 413?   

[wally_wabash]

They have talked about the "Whitewater Family" in the past.  Will the new man have Whitewater ties? 

How about that Raebel guy, 413?   

Raebel is an interesting idea also. Probably needs more seasoning though as a coach. I know he's a Whitewater guy, but he's a really young Whitewater guy. Would be a great addition to the next staff and perhaps a head coach in training/waiting.

[02 Warhawk]

Isn't it possible Jago could find something intriguing about coming back to coach his alma mater and try to succeed in keeping the program at an elite level, recognizing full well it might be the death of any advancement dreams he has?

I guess I don't think that that is even possible.  I know people get the googly eyes when a HC position opens up and they start pointing to alums that live in a different stratosphere now and think "hey, maybe he'll come home."  It just doesn't work that way.  A couple of years ago when Wooster had an opening there was some scuttlebutt about an alum that is/was the OC at FAU coming home to resurrect the program.  They ended up with the OC from Lycoming.  The economics between D3 and FBS are so vastly different...people don't move from FBS coordinator to D3 HC on purpose.  It's just not realistic. 

I mean, I guess there's no harm in hypothesizing and daydreaming on those kinds of possibilities (that's not even a fair word to use), but I think this topic of who's the next HC at Whitewater is more interesting if we pick out realistic replacements.  Glenn Caruso is an interesting name.  Mike Leonard is an interesting name.  Borland is interesting.  Jagodzinski is fantasy land.

Caruso: Pass
Leonard: I would consider it
Borland: No doubt
Jagodzinksi: Would be nice...but no way

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

RE: Situation at Buffalo U

From www.footballscoop.com

Buffalo: Per source, Rob Ianello will join the staff at Buffalo in transition role as Lance Leipold finishes the season at Whitewater. Ianello, the former Akron head coach and recruiting coordinator at both Kansas and Notre Dame, will initially focus on leading the recruiting effort for Buffalo. Will update...

[MasterJedi]

Isn't it possible Jago could find something intriguing about coming back to coach his alma mater and try to succeed in keeping the program at an elite level, recognizing full well it might be the death of any advancement dreams he has?

I guess I don't think that that is even possible.  I know people get the googly eyes when a HC position opens up and they start pointing to alums that live in a different stratosphere now and think "hey, maybe he'll come home."  It just doesn't work that way.  A couple of years ago when Wooster had an opening there was some scuttlebutt about an alum that is/was the OC at FAU coming home to resurrect the program.  They ended up with the OC from Lycoming.  The economics between D3 and FBS are so vastly different...people don't move from FBS coordinator to D3 HC on purpose.  It's just not realistic. 

I mean, I guess there's no harm in hypothesizing and daydreaming on those kinds of possibilities (that's not even a fair word to use), but I think this topic of who's the next HC at Whitewater is more interesting if we pick out realistic replacements.  Glenn Caruso is an interesting name.  Mike Leonard is an interesting name.  Borland is interesting.  Jagodzinski is fantasy land.

Caruso: Pass
Leonard: I would consider it
Borland: No doubt
Jagodzinksi: Would be nice...but no way

Only thing I would worry about if Borland becomes HC would be if the defense would suffer with him having to have eyes all over.

[SaintsFAN]

"Never heard anything so stupid" as to think someone would take a HUGE cut in pay as well as move down a couple of notch's in College levels to take a job at UWW.  UWW is a great job for d3, but still it is d3.  No matter how much money he has made job progressions for college coachs do not usually go in this direction for a rising star kind of a guy.

The Wabash Coach WOULD be a great fit.  The question is, however, will one of the coordinators stay or do they stay with LL -- who is going to be an absolute star in D1.   For the coaches who do go with him, if they win quickly at UB it will be life-changing in terms of salary for the next job LL gets.

[02 Warhawk]

Isn't it possible Jago could find something intriguing about coming back to coach his alma mater and try to succeed in keeping the program at an elite level, recognizing full well it might be the death of any advancement dreams he has?

I guess I don't think that that is even possible.  I know people get the googly eyes when a HC position opens up and they start pointing to alums that live in a different stratosphere now and think "hey, maybe he'll come home."  It just doesn't work that way.  A couple of years ago when Wooster had an opening there was some scuttlebutt about an alum that is/was the OC at FAU coming home to resurrect the program.  They ended up with the OC from Lycoming.  The economics between D3 and FBS are so vastly different...people don't move from FBS coordinator to D3 HC on purpose.  It's just not realistic. 

I mean, I guess there's no harm in hypothesizing and daydreaming on those kinds of possibilities (that's not even a fair word to use), but I think this topic of who's the next HC at Whitewater is more interesting if we pick out realistic replacements.  Glenn Caruso is an interesting name.  Mike Leonard is an interesting name.  Borland is interesting.  Jagodzinski is fantasy land.

Caruso: Pass
Leonard: I would consider it
Borland: No doubt
Jagodzinksi: Would be nice...but no way

Only thing I would worry about if Borland becomes HC would be if the defense would suffer with him having to have eyes all over.

No way the defense suffers if Bullis takes over as DC.

[BashDad]

"I would consider it."

Oh, would you?

[emma17]

Isn't it possible Jago could find something intriguing about coming back to coach his alma mater and try to succeed in keeping the program at an elite level, recognizing full well it might be the death of any advancement dreams he has?

I guess I don't think that that is even possible.  I know people get the googly eyes when a HC position opens up and they start pointing to alums that live in a different stratosphere now and think "hey, maybe he'll come home."  It just doesn't work that way.  A couple of years ago when Wooster had an opening there was some scuttlebutt about an alum that is/was the OC at FAU coming home to resurrect the program.  They ended up with the OC from Lycoming.  The economics between D3 and FBS are so vastly different...people don't move from FBS coordinator to D3 HC on purpose.  It's just not realistic. 

I mean, I guess there's no harm in hypothesizing and daydreaming on those kinds of possibilities (that's not even a fair word to use), but I think this topic of who's the next HC at Whitewater is more interesting if we pick out realistic replacements.  Glenn Caruso is an interesting name.  Mike Leonard is an interesting name.  Borland is interesting.  Jagodzinski is fantasy land.

Caruso: Pass
Leonard: I would consider it
Borland: No doubt
Jagodzinksi: Would be nice...but no way

Only thing I would worry about if Borland becomes HC would be if the defense would suffer with him having to have eyes all over.

My initial reaction on Caruso is pass, but as I think about it, he's probably a guy worth getting to know more about.  My understanding is he is a heck of a recruiter.  Put him in the UWW area of prospects and he might do well.  I also see him as a detail guy, which I like. 

The concern I have if the hire is internal is strife with the remaining staff.  Of course they can probably handle it better than I'm thinking. 
There are at least 3 internal candidates I can think of:
Borland
Kotelnicki
Bullis

I like them all.

[02 Warhawk]

"I would consider it."

Oh, would you?

Yes.

Not sure if his offensive style would fit at UWW. Pass first, spread offense.

Great guy and coach though.

[Pat Coleman]

Is that his style or is that just the personnel he's been able to recruit and work with?

[02 Warhawk]

Is that his style or is that just the personnel he's been able to recruit and work with?

Not sure. It's the type of offense he's run for along time now, and it's worked great for Franklin in that conference.

If he was interested in coming here, I wouldn't exactly be opposed to it. I guess I'm really pulling for Borland. He obviously knows the system, defensive minded, attention to detail...

[SaintsFAN]

Is that his style or is that just the personnel he's been able to recruit and work with?

definitely the latter.. I'm sure he'd pound the rock with the monsters they have to work with in Wisconsin (thats a compliment).