FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[BoBo]

Per footballscoop,

"Lock Haven (D-II – PA):  Former UW-Stevens Point head coach and most recently, UW-Whitewater linebackers coach and recruiting coordinator John Miech has come aboard as assistant head coach/linebackers."

http://footballscoop.com/the-scoop/

[02 Warhawk]

Well that's interesting.

[badgerwarhawk]

Didn't see that coming.

[emma17]

Interesting for sure. 

The connections make sense as the new Lock Haven HC is Dave Taynor- a finalist for the UWW job and a former assistant at UWSP. 

[D O.C.]

UW-La Crosse 2015 schedule doing what they have to do to get back in the Top 10.
Good job.

[BoBo]

UW-La Crosse 2015 schedule doing what they have to do to get back in the Top 10.
Good job.

What do you mean D O.C.?  They have always had a challenging NC schedule over the last 10 years or so. They haven't recruited well in the last 10 years and they've lost a lot of winable close games. When was the last time UWL had a quality QB or skill in the skill positions? They've had a long dry spell. And they've been weak on the lines, as well.

[02 Warhawk]

UW-La Crosse 2015 schedule doing what they have to do to get back in the Top 10.
Good job.

What do you mean D O.C.?  They have always had a challenging NC schedule over the last 10 years or so. They haven't recruited well in the last 10 years and they've lost a lot of winable close games. When was the last time UWL had a quality QB or skill in the skill positions? They've had a long dry spell. And they've been weak on the lines, as well.

The last one was probably that dude who got his head ripped off by Raebel.

[badgerwarhawk]

The WARHAWKS athletic programs finished sixth of 450 schools in the 2014-15 Learfield Sports Directors Cup standings with 877.75 points.  Programs earning points in the fall season included football, men's soccer, women's soccer and volleyball.  In the winter men's basketball, wrestling, men's indoor track and field, women's indoor track and field and women's swimming and diving earned points.  Men's outdoor track and field, women's outdoor track and field, men's tennis, women's tennis, softball and baseball earned points in the spring.  In all 17 of the 20 programs offered were represented in national championship events.

Other WIAC schools finishing in the top 25 included La Crosse (10th), Eau Claire (18th) and Stevens Point (24th).

http://www.uwwsports.com/news/2015/6/4/GEN_0604155936.aspx

[emma17]

UW-La Crosse 2015 schedule doing what they have to do to get back in the Top 10.
Good job.

You could almost make the case the scheduling up has been a detriment to UWL.
They've played a ton of excellent teams in NC - and have been quite competitive in most of the games- yet it hasn't translated at all to conference success.
Maybe they'd be better off getting some early season victories before entering conference competition.
Recognizing of course there has to be willing partners.

[OzJohnnie]

UW-La Crosse 2015 schedule doing what they have to do to get back in the Top 10.
Good job.

You could almost make the case the scheduling up has been a detriment to UWL.
They've played a ton of excellent teams in NC - and have been quite competitive in most of the games- yet it hasn't translated at all to conference success.
Maybe they'd be better off getting some early season victories before entering conference competition.
Recognizing of course there has to be willing partners.

Maybe this is insight into why UWW has trouble scheduling NC teams to be throttled. Perhaps many are unpersuaded by the argument that you need to play the toughest competition you can find to get better.

[BoBo]

UW-La Crosse 2015 schedule doing what they have to do to get back in the Top 10.
Good job.

What do you mean D O.C.?  They have always had a challenging NC schedule over the last 10 years or so. They haven't recruited well in the last 10 years and they've lost a lot of winable close games. When was the last time UWL had a quality QB or skill in the skill positions? They've had a long dry spell. And they've been weak on the lines, as well.

The last one was probably that dude who got his head ripped off by Raebel.

I think it's been longer than that...plus that guy who A.J. leveled was the backup, I think. Didn't the starter get knocked out on the previous series?

[02 Warhawk]

UW-La Crosse 2015 schedule doing what they have to do to get back in the Top 10.
Good job.

What do you mean D O.C.?  They have always had a challenging NC schedule over the last 10 years or so. They haven't recruited well in the last 10 years and they've lost a lot of winable close games. When was the last time UWL had a quality QB or skill in the skill positions? They've had a long dry spell. And they've been weak on the lines, as well.

The last one was probably that dude who got his head ripped off by Raebel.

I think it's been longer than that...plus that guy who A.J. leveled was the backup, I think. Didn't the starter get knocked out on the previous series?

I think he took out Moe Griffin, who was pretty good. He has the second highest career passing efficiency in LX history, and was all conference in 2007.

Looks like the LaCrosse Tribune wasn't pleased with the hit on that September afternoon:

3 minutes, 49 seconds left in the fourth. On first down, Moe scrambled to his right, looking for room near the sideline, when Raebel launched himself at Moe.

Television replays appeared to show an illegal helmet-to-helmet hit, but no flag was thrown. UW-L coach Larry Terry would not comment on the tackle.

[WarhawkDad]

UW-La Crosse 2015 schedule doing what they have to do to get back in the Top 10.
Good job.

What do you mean D O.C.?  They have always had a challenging NC schedule over the last 10 years or so. They haven't recruited well in the last 10 years and they've lost a lot of winable close games. When was the last time UWL had a quality QB or skill in the skill positions? They've had a long dry spell. And they've been weak on the lines, as well.

The last one was probably that dude who got his head ripped off by Raebel.

I think it's been longer than that...plus that guy who A.J. leveled was the backup, I think. Didn't the starter get knocked out on the previous series?

I think he took out Moe Griffin, who was pretty good. He has the second highest career passing efficiency in LX history, and was all conference in 2007.

Looks like the LaCrosse Tribune wasn't pleased with the hit on that September afternoon:

3 minutes, 49 seconds left in the fourth. On first down, Moe scrambled to his right, looking for room near the sideline, when Raebel launched himself at Moe.

Television replays appeared to show an illegal helmet-to-helmet hit, but no flag was thrown. UW-L coach Larry Terry would not comment on the tackle.

Those darn officials always miss calls that should have gone against the Warhawks      Just another advantage that the Warhawks have along with being a public school, located between Madison, Milwaukee and Chicago, with little D2 interference.       

Just wanted to beat all the others to the punch!   

[BoBo]

UW-La Crosse 2015 schedule doing what they have to do to get back in the Top 10.
Good job.

What do you mean D O.C.?  They have always had a challenging NC schedule over the last 10 years or so. They haven't recruited well in the last 10 years and they've lost a lot of winable close games. When was the last time UWL had a quality QB or skill in the skill positions? They've had a long dry spell. And they've been weak on the lines, as well.

The last one was probably that dude who got his head ripped off by Raebel.

I think it's been longer than that...plus that guy who A.J. leveled was the backup, I think. Didn't the starter get knocked out on the previous series?

I think he took out Moe Griffin, who was pretty good. He has the second highest career passing efficiency in LX history, and was all conference in 2007.

Looks like the LaCrosse Tribune wasn't pleased with the hit on that September afternoon:
3 minutes, 49 seconds left in the fourth. On first down, Moe scrambled to his right, looking for room near the sideline, when
Raebel launched himself at Moe.

Television replays appeared to show an illegal helmet-to-helmet hit, but no flag was thrown. UW-L coach Larry Terry would not comment on the tackle.

OK, lets break this down...first off, his name is Griffin Moe, not Moe Griffin. And you are right, Moe wasn't the back-up - the back-up did create his own big problems after Moe left this game, however. GM was 2nd team all conference in 2007 (Danny Jones was first team).  I don't know anything about him being 2nd in LaX history in passing efficiency since La Crosse's own football records listing doesn't include that stat for QB. So that should tell you how important they feel that stat is in the whole realm of the quarterback position. I read somewhere that passer efficiency ratings are used to evaluate passers, not quarterbacks. So, OK he was a good passer. But in my 60+ years observing the WSUC/WIAC & La Crosse Indians/Eagles football, I wouldn't even place Moe in the top 10 of greatest LaX QB's. I remember the QB skills of Graig Kusick, Dave Drexler, and Bob Krepfle, among others, more than Moe and they were from 20-30 years ago. On the other hand, if you look at the link below, Danny Jones didn't have the most crisp, beautiful passing motion, though he was pretty successful, but he was a darn good QB - and there's a difference. Moe might have been a higher efficient passer compared to all LaX QB's, but in my view wasn't a very highly rated QB. Next that Tribune article you quoted is so one-sided it isn't even funny. If you watch the play, Raebel doesn't "launch" himself at Moe. When I hear the word launch on the football field, to me it means someone leaves their feet - like a rocket leaving the pad or a baseball leaving the bat on a trajectory taking it over the wall. He never leaves his feet and in fact is still standing when the play ends. Moe, on the other hand, is the one who looks like he's challenging Raebel. He had plently of opportunity to take the ball out of bounds like any sane QB should have in that position, but chose instead to take on a big, physical, nasty-on-the-field LB man to man and lost big time (ff the link to 4:44 to see the play develop). Is it any wonder why then LaX coach Larry Terry wouldn't comment on the tackle? He knew very well that Moe didn't make a very good decision on the play. And at that time (10 years ago) was a clean hit. Afterall, it happened right in front of him on the LaX boundary sidelines. You have to remember that during those days a helmet to helmet hit was interpreted differently than today. It had to be determined that it was intentional; today you hit someone in the head and it's an automatic penalty - not the case 10 years ago. In my view, that play didn't show an intentional helmet to helmet hit; it was just a hard hit period. I'd like to know what Moe was thinking on that scramble and run. He turns the corner being chased takes 3 or 4 steps along the sidelines, then faces Raebel and tries to go through him in a completely upright position - it had to occur to him that this guy wearing #33 in the white jersey was going to hammer him in a big time way, but still didn't try to avoid it. Tell me I'm wrong, but that's the way I saw it then and that's the way I still see it today.

game highlights : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kCFi7zB20o

[sigma one]

Trying to be a reasonable, unbiased observer (I am not a WIAC guy), and having watched the hit numerous times, I don't see any evidence that Raebel "launched" himself at the QB.  I see an aggressive hit, not even really a tackle in the classic sense, but a hit much like I have seen in many instances lately when the defender pops the runner rather than tackling him. 
      Today, maybe a flag gets thrown with the emphasis on helmet to helmet.  Too bad Moe was injured, but a penalty, no way (and maybe not even a penalty today, depending upon the officiating crew).  Just a hard football play on a QB in a vulnerable position by a tough linebacker. 
      Great piece of tape about the comeback, by the way.  I love to see those kinds of stories.  Reminds me of the playoff game a few years back between Wabash and North Central.  Down 21-0 at halftime, Wabash came back to win late in the final quarter 29-28 on a tipped two-point conversion pass.  The NC players were crushed, having been a significant favorite.   The next week, Wabash went to Mt. Union and was defeated 20-8, but that didn't diminish the thrill of the comeback vs. a Cardinal team that thought it was on its way to a showdown with the Purple Raiders and perhaps a run to the championship final.