FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[wally_wabash]

Good point 02- I would think you're exactly right. That means the extra point team likely blew a snap on one and had a kick blocked on another. Such a shame as UWO may face the same hurdles they did last year for playoff participation if the balance of the season goes similar to 2014.

Hurdles?  Like losing too many games kinds of hurdles?  You can't just save a spot for a second WIAC team, man.  They have to earn it the same way everybody else does. 

8-1 in division for 2015 Oshkosh will probably play better than 6-1 did for 2014 Oshkosh, but an awful lot of that also depends on what's happening in the rest of the region.  I think a major part of Oshkosh's problem on Selection Sunday last fall was that they were stuck behind St. Thomas (who also wasn't super sexy as ns at-large team) in the regional rankings.  I'm not sure we ever got to a point where the Oshkosh conundrum had to be dealt with. 

[UWO Titan 78]

Point...embarrassing showing at Albion.  65 points given up. 

Rough week for the wiac.

I would say so. Embarrassing losses by Point and Eau Claire.  Disappointing losses for River Falls and Oshkosh. At least LaCrosse and Platteville got wins.

Oshkosh missed extra points after two 4th quarter TD's (1 blocked attempt, 1 failed 2 pt conversion) that could've potentially sent their game into OT. Second consecutive year the Titans lose to Bob Morris.

I think this is even worse.  The stats show UWO went for two and failed after their first touchdown, resulting in a tie game of 6-6.  They then had an extra point kick blocked, resulting in a score of 23-15.  They went for two on last TD and failed, losing the game by 2 points. 
Is UWO lacking a kicker?  Is the coach lacking confidence? 
This reminds me of when Bethel had a good team a few years ago but couldn't kick an extra point. 
Silly at the college level.

Did anyone actually see the play? Since it was a failed run by Connor Senger (backup QB) that makes me think Connor was the holder for the XP attempt, and it was a botched snapped, possibly. I'm guessing he just scooped it up and tried running it in, but obviously came up short. That would make more sense, rather than actually lining up and going for 2 in that situation.

Looks like UWO was really missing Nate Ray from last year in that game.

I attended the Oshkosh v. Robert Morris game. It was an evenly played game except for the special teams. Oshkosh used 2 frosh kickers in the game (one of them also did the punting) with mixed results. The first two-point attempt was the result of a bobbled snap (the snap looked fine). The Titans also missed a 39-yard field goal. They switched kickers and made a field goal, and had a PAT blocked. Living in Chicago, I've watched several Titan games over the past few years online, but this was the first I've seen in-person since their playoff run in 2012. They came out float in the first half and didn't look like a team that could compete for the WIAC title. They made some half-time adjustments, but they still struggled to stop the run (OLBs playing too far off the ball in my opinion). When the Titans fully committed to the run in the second half, they were more successful. They will need to shore up the kicking game to compete in tight WIAC games (UWW and UWP).

[02 Warhawk]

Point...embarrassing showing at Albion.  65 points given up. 

Rough week for the wiac.

I would say so. Embarrassing losses by Point and Eau Claire.  Disappointing losses for River Falls and Oshkosh. At least LaCrosse and Platteville got wins.

Oshkosh missed extra points after two 4th quarter TD's (1 blocked attempt, 1 failed 2 pt conversion) that could've potentially sent their game into OT. Second consecutive year the Titans lose to Bob Morris.

I think this is even worse.  The stats show UWO went for two and failed after their first touchdown, resulting in a tie game of 6-6.  They then had an extra point kick blocked, resulting in a score of 23-15.  They went for two on last TD and failed, losing the game by 2 points. 
Is UWO lacking a kicker?  Is the coach lacking confidence? 
This reminds me of when Bethel had a good team a few years ago but couldn't kick an extra point. 
Silly at the college level.

Did anyone actually see the play? Since it was a failed run by Connor Senger (backup QB) that makes me think Connor was the holder for the XP attempt, and it was a botched snapped, possibly. I'm guessing he just scooped it up and tried running it in, but obviously came up short. That would make more sense, rather than actually lining up and going for 2 in that situation.

Looks like UWO was really missing Nate Ray from last year in that game.

I attended the Oshkosh v. Robert Morris game. It was an evenly played game except for the special teams. Oshkosh used 2 frosh kickers in the game (one of them also did the punting) with mixed results. The first two-point attempt was the result of a bobbled snap (the snap looked fine). The Titans also missed a 39-yard field goal. They switched kickers and made a field goal, and had a PAT blocked. Living in Chicago, I've watched several Titan games over the past few years online, but this was the first I've seen in-person since their playoff run in 2012. They came out float in the first half and didn't look like a team that could compete for the WIAC title. They made some half-time adjustments, but they still struggled to stop the run (OLBs playing too far off the ball in my opinion). When the Titans fully committed to the run in the second half, they were more successful. They will need to shore up the kicking game to compete in tight WIAC games (UWW and UWP).

Thanks for the clarification. Gald to have another (non-UWW) poster on board to give insight about other teams around the WIAC.

[robertgoulet]

Former UWW head coach.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-college-football-lance-leipold-buffalo-wisconsin-whitewater/

[badgerwarhawk]

Former UWW head coach.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-college-football-lance-leipold-buffalo-wisconsin-whitewater/

Thanks for finding and sharing that.

[02 Warhawk]

Former UWW head coach.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-college-football-lance-leipold-buffalo-wisconsin-whitewater/

Thanks for finding and sharing that.

In the openning paragraph I wonder why 2007 was left off?

[Pat Coleman]

Former UWW head coach.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-college-football-lance-leipold-buffalo-wisconsin-whitewater/

Thanks for finding and sharing that.

In the openning paragraph I wonder why 2007 was left off?

The reference is to 15-0 and national title and UWW was 14-1 in 2007.

[02 Warhawk]

Former UWW head coach.

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/2015-college-football-lance-leipold-buffalo-wisconsin-whitewater/

Thanks for finding and sharing that.

In the openning paragraph I wonder why 2007 was left off?

The reference is to 15-0 and national title and UWW was 14-1 in 2007.

gotcha, I see now

[bleedpurple]

Point...embarrassing showing at Albion.  65 points given up. 

Rough week for the wiac.

I would say so. Embarrassing losses by Point and Eau Claire.  Disappointing losses for River Falls and Oshkosh. At least LaCrosse and Platteville got wins.

Oshkosh missed extra points after two 4th quarter TD's (1 blocked attempt, 1 failed 2 pt conversion) that could've potentially sent their game into OT. Second consecutive year the Titans lose to Bob Morris.

I think this is even worse.  The stats show UWO went for two and failed after their first touchdown, resulting in a tie game of 6-6.  They then had an extra point kick blocked, resulting in a score of 23-15.  They went for two on last TD and failed, losing the game by 2 points. 
Is UWO lacking a kicker?  Is the coach lacking confidence? 
This reminds me of when Bethel had a good team a few years ago but couldn't kick an extra point. 
Silly at the college level.

Did anyone actually see the play? Since it was a failed run by Connor Senger (backup QB) that makes me think Connor was the holder for the XP attempt, and it was a botched snapped, possibly. I'm guessing he just scooped it up and tried running it in, but obviously came up short. That would make more sense, rather than actually lining up and going for 2 in that situation.

Looks like UWO was really missing Nate Ray from last year in that game.

I attended the Oshkosh v. Robert Morris game. It was an evenly played game except for the special teams. Oshkosh used 2 frosh kickers in the game (one of them also did the punting) with mixed results. The first two-point attempt was the result of a bobbled snap (the snap looked fine). The Titans also missed a 39-yard field goal. They switched kickers and made a field goal, and had a PAT blocked. Living in Chicago, I've watched several Titan games over the past few years online, but this was the first I've seen in-person since their playoff run in 2012. They came out float in the first half and didn't look like a team that could compete for the WIAC title. They made some half-time adjustments, but they still struggled to stop the run (OLBs playing too far off the ball in my opinion). When the Titans fully committed to the run in the second half, they were more successful. They will need to shore up the kicking game to compete in tight WIAC games (UWW and UWP).

Thanks, UW-O Titan 78.  Appreciate the first hand report and your observations. 

I had read an article about Connor Senger, the Badgers' Offensive Scout Team player of the year transferring to UW-O. I see that he is listed as a participant, jersey #5.  Do you happen to know his role?

[UWO Titan 78]

Point...embarrassing showing at Albion.  65 points given up. 

Rough week for the wiac.

I would say so. Embarrassing losses by Point and Eau Claire.  Disappointing losses for River Falls and Oshkosh. At least LaCrosse and Platteville got wins.

Oshkosh missed extra points after two 4th quarter TD's (1 blocked attempt, 1 failed 2 pt conversion) that could've potentially sent their game into OT. Second consecutive year the Titans lose to Bob Morris.

I think this is even worse.  The stats show UWO went for two and failed after their first touchdown, resulting in a tie game of 6-6.  They then had an extra point kick blocked, resulting in a score of 23-15.  They went for two on last TD and failed, losing the game by 2 points. 
Is UWO lacking a kicker?  Is the coach lacking confidence? 
This reminds me of when Bethel had a good team a few years ago but couldn't kick an extra point. 
Silly at the college level.

Did anyone actually see the play? Since it was a failed run by Connor Senger (backup QB) that makes me think Connor was the holder for the XP attempt, and it was a botched snapped, possibly. I'm guessing he just scooped it up and tried running it in, but obviously came up short. That would make more sense, rather than actually lining up and going for 2 in that situation.

Looks like UWO was really missing Nate Ray from last year in that game.

I attended the Oshkosh v. Robert Morris game. It was an evenly played game except for the special teams. Oshkosh used 2 frosh kickers in the game (one of them also did the punting) with mixed results. The first two-point attempt was the result of a bobbled snap (the snap looked fine). The Titans also missed a 39-yard field goal. They switched kickers and made a field goal, and had a PAT blocked. Living in Chicago, I've watched several Titan games over the past few years online, but this was the first I've seen in-person since their playoff run in 2012. They came out float in the first half and didn't look like a team that could compete for the WIAC title. They made some half-time adjustments, but they still struggled to stop the run (OLBs playing too far off the ball in my opinion). When the Titans fully committed to the run in the second half, they were more successful. They will need to shore up the kicking game to compete in tight WIAC games (UWW and UWP).

Thanks, UW-O Titan 78.  Appreciate the first hand report and your observations. 

I had read an article about Connor Senger, the Badgers' Offensive Scout Team player of the year transferring to UW-O. I see that he is listed as a participant, jersey #5.  Do you happen to know his role?

Conner Senger appears to be the Titans' back-up QB; however, he only appeared in the game as the holder on PAT/FG. On the muffed snap he did roll out and attempt to score, but the TE appeared open in the endzone on the "fire" call. The Titans used a good deal of "Wildcat" with Dylan Hecker moving to QB (something they did a lot of last year). It remains to be seen if they will have a specific package with Senger. It was good to see Zach Kasuboski back in action. He looked good in both the passing game and the option-run game. Oshkosh dominated the second half, and had the fluke fumble not happened, I think they would've at least gotten into field-goal range on their final drive (as stated earlier, not sure they would've made the kick). I think their offense will be steady and efficient. If they can get some more pressure upfront on defense they will be solid defensively. Robert Morris is a good NAIA school. We have several around Chicago (St. Xavier) that are highly regarded in the NAIA. RMU had some great athletes and a lot of speed. I was more surprised by the RMU lines. They were both very solid. I was disappointed by the loss, but I think RMU will be in the hunt for thier conference, so it might not have been as bad a loss as I originally thought heading home that night.

[bleedpurple]

Point...embarrassing showing at Albion.  65 points given up. 

Rough week for the wiac.

I would say so. Embarrassing losses by Point and Eau Claire.  Disappointing losses for River Falls and Oshkosh. At least LaCrosse and Platteville got wins.

Oshkosh missed extra points after two 4th quarter TD's (1 blocked attempt, 1 failed 2 pt conversion) that could've potentially sent their game into OT. Second consecutive year the Titans lose to Bob Morris.

I think this is even worse.  The stats show UWO went for two and failed after their first touchdown, resulting in a tie game of 6-6.  They then had an extra point kick blocked, resulting in a score of 23-15.  They went for two on last TD and failed, losing the game by 2 points. 
Is UWO lacking a kicker?  Is the coach lacking confidence? 
This reminds me of when Bethel had a good team a few years ago but couldn't kick an extra point. 
Silly at the college level.

Did anyone actually see the play? Since it was a failed run by Connor Senger (backup QB) that makes me think Connor was the holder for the XP attempt, and it was a botched snapped, possibly. I'm guessing he just scooped it up and tried running it in, but obviously came up short. That would make more sense, rather than actually lining up and going for 2 in that situation.

Looks like UWO was really missing Nate Ray from last year in that game.

I attended the Oshkosh v. Robert Morris game. It was an evenly played game except for the special teams. Oshkosh used 2 frosh kickers in the game (one of them also did the punting) with mixed results. The first two-point attempt was the result of a bobbled snap (the snap looked fine). The Titans also missed a 39-yard field goal. They switched kickers and made a field goal, and had a PAT blocked. Living in Chicago, I've watched several Titan games over the past few years online, but this was the first I've seen in-person since their playoff run in 2012. They came out float in the first half and didn't look like a team that could compete for the WIAC title. They made some half-time adjustments, but they still struggled to stop the run (OLBs playing too far off the ball in my opinion). When the Titans fully committed to the run in the second half, they were more successful. They will need to shore up the kicking game to compete in tight WIAC games (UWW and UWP).

Thanks, UW-O Titan 78.  Appreciate the first hand report and your observations. 

I had read an article about Connor Senger, the Badgers' Offensive Scout Team player of the year transferring to UW-O. I see that he is listed as a participant, jersey #5.  Do you happen to know his role?

Conner Senger appears to be the Titans' back-up QB; however, he only appeared in the game as the holder on PAT/FG. On the muffed snap he did roll out and attempt to score, but the TE appeared open in the endzone on the "fire" call. The Titans used a good deal of "Wildcat" with Dylan Hecker moving to QB (something they did a lot of last year). It remains to be seen if they will have a specific package with Senger. It was good to see Zach Kasuboski back in action. He looked good in both the passing game and the option-run game. Oshkosh dominated the second half, and had the fluke fumble not happened, I think they would've at least gotten into field-goal range on their final drive (as stated earlier, not sure they would've made the kick). I think their offense will be steady and efficient. If they can get some more pressure upfront on defense they will be solid defensively. Robert Morris is a good NAIA school. We have several around Chicago (St. Xavier) that are highly regarded in the NAIA. RMU had some great athletes and a lot of speed. I was more surprised by the RMU lines. They were both very solid. I was disappointed by the loss, but I think RMU will be in the hunt for thier conference, so it might not have been as bad a loss as I originally thought heading home that night.

Thanks for the info.  It will be interesting to watch the Titans this year.  I am guessing they will be very good defensively and they are almost always among the best teams we play (including playoffs) along the line of scrimmage.  My guess is their success will depend on Kasper's continued development and their ability to come up with some big plays.  Kasoboski remaining healthy would be huge. He is a stud.

It's always hard to read the NAIA teams.  Obviously, RMU is better than most having beaten Oshkosh 2 straight years.  I admit I am always skeptical when it comes to NAIA. They have their chance to prove me wrong this year. We'll see what happens in Morningside in a couple of weeks.

[02 Warhawk]

Looks like Belhaven starts 4 WR, 1 RB and 0 TE.

Size of their starting WRs:
6-4 205
5-6 150 
5-9 170
5-10 170

[bleedpurple]

Looks like Belhaven starts 4 WR, 1 RB and 0 TE.

Size of their starting WRs:
6-4 205
5-6 150 
5-9 170
5-10 170

I wonder if the 150 pound kid is fast.

[Pat Coleman]

Another reason it's tough to read NAIA teams is they start before D-III teams do, and they have a spring practice in full pads. They definitely have the opportunity to come into the season better prepared than D-III teams do.

[bleedpurple]

Another reason it's tough to read NAIA teams is they start before D-III teams do, and they have a spring practice in full pads. They definitely have the opportunity to come into the season better prepared than D-III teams do.

True enough.  In Belhaven's case, since they weren't required to follow NCAA guidelines until September 1st, they were able to have their padded spring practices and annual Green and White Spring game as well this year. 

I will go on record now, though, and say that if UW-W loses to either Belhaven or Morningside, I will NOT complain about the NAIA schools having an advantage!