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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: Just Bill on November 16, 2015, 05:28:07 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 16, 2015, 04:22:58 PM
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Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 13, 2015, 10:40:10 PM
particularly in the smaller divisions and particularly at a school like UWO whose population is 2/3rds commuters.)

Do you have a source to confirm that, or are you just fighting an overstatement with bigger, better overstatement?

Here's my source. Scroll down to the "Campus Life" header, "Housing" subheader.

Not to take sides, but 32% of students living in campus-owned housing does not equal 2/3 of students being commuters. There's likely a whole lot of students living very close to campus in privately owned apartments, right? If I'm walking to class from an apartment right across the street from a residence hall, I'm not a commuter.

That's the case with every school I'm aware of that doesn't require on-campus living - there is ALWAYS a 'student ghetto' surrounding the campus, though what percentage of the student body it contains no doubt varies widely.  (At EMU for example in a student body of 20,000 +/- 2-3,000 [it fluctuates a lot depending on the economy], last I checked there are only about 5,000 ON campus, but about an equal number very near campus.)

cubs

Quote from: emma17 on November 16, 2015, 04:19:15 PM
Anyway, enough about your problems  :)
As I have mentioned before (maybe even on this board) I don't really have a rooting interest here.... 

I think Coach Cerroni is one the "good guys" out there when it comes to college coaches, but if UWO loses Saturday, it won't really bother me, like maybe a four game sweep in the NLCS would....  >:( 
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AppletonRocks

Quote from: bleedpurple on November 13, 2015, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: d3Wizard on November 13, 2015, 03:25:39 PM
Well what he said was not wrong, Oshkosh would never play in Greenbay and Oshkosh did beat WW on there 3rd string quarterback.  I think that's saying something.

October 10, 2015 will mean nothing on December 18, 2015. But glad you enjoyed it.

Sorry I repeated what I heard about the Lambeau thing.  Some touchy folks on this board. Take a pill, please.  ;)
Run the floor or Run DMC !!

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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: AppletonRocks on November 16, 2015, 05:53:32 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 13, 2015, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: d3Wizard on November 13, 2015, 03:25:39 PM
Well what he said was not wrong, Oshkosh would never play in Greenbay and Oshkosh did beat WW on there 3rd string quarterback.  I think that's saying something.

October 10, 2015 will mean nothing on December 18, 2015. But glad you enjoyed it.

Sorry I repeated what I heard about the Lambeau thing.  Some touchy folks on this board. Take a pill, please.  ;)

With the Lions winning yesterday at Lambeau for the first time since 1991, I heard that the Pack was cancelling the rest of the season! ;D

AppletonRocks

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 16, 2015, 06:08:39 PM
Quote from: AppletonRocks on November 16, 2015, 05:53:32 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 13, 2015, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: d3Wizard on November 13, 2015, 03:25:39 PM
Well what he said was not wrong, Oshkosh would never play in Greenbay and Oshkosh did beat WW on there 3rd string quarterback.  I think that's saying something.

October 10, 2015 will mean nothing on December 18, 2015. But glad you enjoyed it.

Sorry I repeated what I heard about the Lambeau thing.  Some touchy folks on this board. Take a pill, please.  ;)

With the Lions winning yesterday at Lambeau for the first time since 1991, I heard that the Pack was cancelling the rest of the season! ;D

They might trade Aaron Rodgers this week to a playoff team.  ;) ::)
Run the floor or Run DMC !!

2016 WIAC Pick 'Em Board Champion

retagent

My apologies to all UWW  posters. I did ass-u-me that pg4 was a UWW poster. I will have to go back now and see exactly what he was getting at when he made the comment about SJU being a "one and out" team. It didn't sound complimentary, but, I could be wrong.

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: retagent on November 16, 2015, 06:51:47 PM
My apologies to all UWW  posters. I did ass-u-me that pg4 was a UWW poster. I will have to go back now and see exactly what he was getting at when he made the comment about SJU being a "one and out" team. It didn't sound complimentary, but, I could be wrong.

pg04 is an East Region poster (I forget which school).  His comment was not a 'slur' on SJU.  He merely wondered if UMU had any idea that UWW would be a perennial Stagg opponent after the first meeting, as opposed to those very good teams that still only occasionally made it to the Stagg.  Considering UMU's domination, a very reasonable question; they had never had a perennially recurring opponent.

retagent

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Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 16, 2015, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 16, 2015, 06:51:47 PM
My apologies to all UWW  posters. I did ass-u-me that pg4 was a UWW poster. I will have to go back now and see exactly what he was getting at when he made the comment about SJU being a "one and out" team. It didn't sound complimentary, but, I could be wrong.

pg04 is an East Region poster (I forget which school).  His comment was not a 'slur' on SJU.  He merely wondered if UMU had any idea that UWW would be a perennial Stagg opponent after the first meeting, as opposed to those very good teams that still only occasionally made it to the Stagg.  Considering UMU's domination, a very reasonable question; they had never had a perennially recurring opponent. 

You mean like the 10 or 12 institutions that have ever made it to the Stagg?  I get what you're saying, but why SJU, rather than UMHB, Linfield, Rowan etc?

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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: retagent on November 16, 2015, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 16, 2015, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 16, 2015, 06:51:47 PM
My apologies to all UWW  posters. I did ass-u-me that pg4 was a UWW poster. I will have to go back now and see exactly what he was getting at when he made the comment about SJU being a "one and out" team. It didn't sound complimentary, but, I could be wrong.

pg04 is an East Region poster (I forget which school).  His comment was not a 'slur' on SJU.  He merely wondered if UMU had any idea that UWW would be a perennial Stagg opponent after the first meeting, as opposed to those very good teams that still only occasionally made it to the Stagg.  Considering UMU's domination, a very reasonable question; they had never had a perennially recurring opponent. 

You mean like the 10 or 12 institutions that have ever made it to the Stagg?  I get what you're saying, but why SJU, rather than UMHB, Linfield, Rowan etc?

I'd assume that was just the name that occurred to him, and he wanted to keep it simple.  (After all, he was addressing a bunch of cheeseheads. ;D  Sorry - still giddy over the Lions breaking the 24 year losing streak in Wisconsin.)

D O.C.

Rounding off the numbers I believe 500 of LINFIELD's 2000 students are athletes themselves and are busy training/participating in the own sports. Usually there are two other events during football season.
Got a few local community people left who've seen all 60 winning seasons.

emma17

Quote from: retagent on November 16, 2015, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 16, 2015, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 16, 2015, 06:51:47 PM
My apologies to all UWW  posters. I did ass-u-me that pg4 was a UWW poster. I will have to go back now and see exactly what he was getting at when he made the comment about SJU being a "one and out" team. It didn't sound complimentary, but, I could be wrong.

pg04 is an East Region poster (I forget which school).  His comment was not a 'slur' on SJU.  He merely wondered if UMU had any idea that UWW would be a perennial Stagg opponent after the first meeting, as opposed to those very good teams that still only occasionally made it to the Stagg.  Considering UMU's domination, a very reasonable question; they had never had a perennially recurring opponent. 

You mean like the 10 or 12 institutions that have ever made it to the Stagg?  I get what you're saying, but why SJU, rather than UMHB, Linfield, Rowan etc?

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Apology accepted- thanks for manning up.  Let's not worry about what he was getting at.  Let's start taking a few breaths before jumping to conclusions, and let's get people to ease off on the attacking of UWW fans en masse.     

Gregory Sager

Quote from: D O.C. on November 16, 2015, 07:27:43 PM
Rounding off the numbers I believe 500 of LINFIELD's 2000 students are athletes themselves and are busy training/participating in the own sports. Usually there are two other events during football season.
Got a few local community people left who've seen all 60 winning seasons.

At several CCIW schools, the student-athletes from the other sports are typically some of the most faithful and boisterous fans you'll find in the stands. It works both ways, too -- even for sports that are mutually in-season.
"To see what is in front of one's nose is a constant struggle." -- George Orwell

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: retagent on November 16, 2015, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 16, 2015, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 16, 2015, 06:51:47 PM
My apologies to all UWW  posters. I did ass-u-me that pg4 was a UWW poster. I will have to go back now and see exactly what he was getting at when he made the comment about SJU being a "one and out" team. It didn't sound complimentary, but, I could be wrong.

pg04 is an East Region poster (I forget which school).  His comment was not a 'slur' on SJU.  He merely wondered if UMU had any idea that UWW would be a perennial Stagg opponent after the first meeting, as opposed to those very good teams that still only occasionally made it to the Stagg.  Considering UMU's domination, a very reasonable question; they had never had a perennially recurring opponent. 

You mean like the 10 or 12 institutions that have ever made it to the Stagg?  I get what you're saying, but why SJU, rather than UMHB, Linfield, Rowan etc?

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Just for the record, there have been 37 different schools in the Stagg Bowl.  (The last decade just makes it seem like there have only been a handful.)

(BTW, you must be a young'un.  An oldtimer might have mentioned Wittenberg or Ithaca, who were dominant before UMU ever made it to the Stagg, or Dayton who went 5 times before going D2 a long time ago.  And UMHB and Linfield have each made it only once.  SJU has been a long time very good team, but has only made the Stagg 3 times spread out over a lengthy period of time.)

pg04

Quote from: retagent on November 16, 2015, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 16, 2015, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 16, 2015, 06:51:47 PM
My apologies to all UWW  posters. I did ass-u-me that pg4 was a UWW poster. I will have to go back now and see exactly what he was getting at when he made the comment about SJU being a "one and out" team. It didn't sound complimentary, but, I could be wrong.

pg04 is an East Region poster (I forget which school).  His comment was not a 'slur' on SJU.  He merely wondered if UMU had any idea that UWW would be a perennial Stagg opponent after the first meeting, as opposed to those very good teams that still only occasionally made it to the Stagg.  Considering UMU's domination, a very reasonable question; they had never had a perennially recurring opponent. 

You mean like the 10 or 12 institutions that have ever made it to the Stagg?  I get what you're saying, but why SJU, rather than UMHB, Linfield, Rowan etc?

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First, Thanks to Ypsi for explaining better than I did.

The reason why I did pick St. John's is because they are the only team other than UWW to win a Stagg Bowl against Mount Union. I thought this was a complement. :).

Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: pg04 on November 16, 2015, 09:27:53 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 16, 2015, 07:05:55 PM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 16, 2015, 07:02:05 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 16, 2015, 06:51:47 PM
My apologies to all UWW  posters. I did ass-u-me that pg4 was a UWW poster. I will have to go back now and see exactly what he was getting at when he made the comment about SJU being a "one and out" team. It didn't sound complimentary, but, I could be wrong.

pg04 is an East Region poster (I forget which school).  His comment was not a 'slur' on SJU.  He merely wondered if UMU had any idea that UWW would be a perennial Stagg opponent after the first meeting, as opposed to those very good teams that still only occasionally made it to the Stagg.  Considering UMU's domination, a very reasonable question; they had never had a perennially recurring opponent. 

You mean like the 10 or 12 institutions that have ever made it to the Stagg?  I get what you're saying, but why SJU, rather than UMHB, Linfield, Rowan etc?

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First, Thanks to Ypsi for explaining better than I did.

The reason why I did pick St. John's is because they are the only team other than UWW to win a Stagg Bowl against Mount Union. I thought this was a complement. :).

By golly, you're right!  I couldn't believe it.  But since UMU first won the Stagg in 1993, the only time they lost before UWW came along was in years they got knocked out before they got there.  So UMHB, Linfield, Rowan (and 31 others ;D) never beat UMU in the Stagg Bowl.

And although they have been vastly surpassed by UMU and UWW (and have now become a mid-tier CCIW team), Augustana is STILL the only team with four straight Stagg wins! ;D