FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

Started by admin, August 16, 2005, 05:19:27 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 3 Guests are viewing this topic.

bleedpurple

Quote from: emma17 on September 11, 2016, 01:17:26 PM
Reading the box score of Stout-St. Thomas, the score disparity is a bit surprising.
Stout did ok in terms of total yards given up and they certainly didn't get killed by Roberts.
Looks like several big plays on D and Special Teams along w penalties drove the blowout score.

I caught a little of the UWSP game, they looked good and faster than I remember. They will be a tough out this year I imagine. UWL may also have something to say in the conference race. 2016 looks to be an absolute slugfest. The WIAC could end up w 4 teams in top 15.

Or one. I guess it depends on how many losses the top 5 teams hang on each other.

ScreamingEagles

Dominant run game powers UW-L rout

http://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/dominant-run-game-powers-uw-l-rout/article_19d06912-d867-5500-b9b6-11b00d6ea5a0.html

QuoteBY THE NUMBERS

320: Rushing yards for UW-L, led by Tyler Jenkins' 105

1950: UW-L's 65 points were the most since a 72-0 win over UW-Superior in 1950

30: Yards gained in the first half by Ripon on 27 plays.

8: Sacks by the Eagles defense


Special teams pulling weight for Eagles

http://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/special-teams-pulling-weight-for-eagles/article_ffd73de0-77e4-50b4-810b-15c271189407.html

QuoteUW-L junior receiver Ryan Kruser fielded the ensuing punt on a bounce, sprinted forward, made a move to shake a defender and then kicked into a different gear to score on a 76-yard return. It was the first punt return for UW-L since Eric Donoval took one back against Platteville in 2008.

Working out pretty well for Kruser on the football field so far....
UW-La Crosse

bleedpurple

Quote from: ScreamingEagles on September 11, 2016, 08:35:08 PM
Dominant run game powers UW-L rout

http://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/dominant-run-game-powers-uw-l-rout/article_19d06912-d867-5500-b9b6-11b00d6ea5a0.html

QuoteBY THE NUMBERS

320: Rushing yards for UW-L, led by Tyler Jenkins' 105

1950: UW-L's 65 points were the most since a 72-0 win over UW-Superior in 1950

30: Yards gained in the first half by Ripon on 27 plays.

8: Sacks by the Eagles defense


Special teams pulling weight for Eagles

http://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/special-teams-pulling-weight-for-eagles/article_ffd73de0-77e4-50b4-810b-15c271189407.html

QuoteUW-L junior receiver Ryan Kruser fielded the ensuing punt on a bounce, sprinted forward, made a move to shake a defender and then kicked into a different gear to score on a 76-yard return. It was the first punt return for UW-L since Eric Donoval took one back against Platteville in 2008.

Working out pretty well for Kruser on the football field so far....

I just find it amazing UW-L hasn't returned a punt since 2008.  That's a lot of fair catches!  ;)

bleedpurple

Quote from: wally_wabash on September 11, 2016, 11:01:11 AM
Quote from: BoBo on September 11, 2016, 04:34:52 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on September 07, 2016, 10:36:56 AM
Quote from: BoBo on September 07, 2016, 09:11:53 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on September 06, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 06, 2016, 02:29:08 PM
I'll be very interested in the UWSP and Albion game this weekend, considering Albion almost pulled it off against Wabash a couple days ago. We'll see if Albion is just that good, or if Wabash lost a lot on defense from a year ago. It's rare for a Little Giants team to surrender 34 points in a game to a non-perennial power like that.

Context...there was a blocked punt return for a score and a pick six, so the Wabash defense didn't give up all 34.  Albion did find some things that worked in the second half, but only after they were held to 14 yards total offense in the first half.  Overall, I thought Wabash's defense held up pretty well against a tough offense to play in Week 1.  I think the D3FB community at large overcorrected for Albion's graduation losses.  Maybe UWSP beats them by 40 this week and I'm wrong. But from what I saw, Albion didn't look like a team that was starting over by any stretch.

Some things?...looking over the box score, it appears they found 31 things that worked in the second half.

Yeah, you missed the point.  02's posted indicated that Wabash gave up 34 points and that it looks like Wabash "lost a lot on defense".  I just wanted to clarify that the defense didn't give up all of those points.  One punt block for a TD, one pick six.  That's two touchdowns that happened with the defense on the sideline.  One other that I didn't mention earlier happened when a Wabash defender punched the ball out from an Albion receiver/runner, the loose ball bounced right up to another Albion player running in stride who took that in for a score.  So there's a third score on a play where Wabash's ought to have been rewarded with possession.  The point is, it's easy to see 41-34 and wonder if Wabash's defense is all of a sudden not good.  Do the digging, and it's not nearly as bad a look for the defense as 34 points allowed might have you believe. 

Not hiding from the 300 yards Albion gained in the second half.  I don't care much for that, but Albion is a really good offensive team so they deserve credit.  But all of those points, in fact most of those points, aren't on the defense.

context - I guess it all depends on who they play ... UW-Stevens Point ​50, Albion 13: Kyle Larson threw for 331 yards and one touchdown as the Pointers (2-0) demolished the visiting Britons (0-2).

I realize that your mission here is to bust my chops and that's fine, but you're still not paying any attention at all to the original conversation which was about those 34 points Albion scored against Wabash.  13 were on the defense.  21 were on returns.  Wabash surrendered fewer first downs and fewer yards to Albion than UWSP did and the same 13 points.  So not really much difference between the two looking strictly at the defense.  There are plenty of other reasons to see Wabash 41, Albion 34 and then UWSP 50, Albion 13 and do some head scratching where Wabash is concerned, but not the defense- which was the whole point. 

But good for you, Bobo.  You've been waiting to unload that post all week.  Must have felt really good to hit send on that one.  Thumbs up for you.

I think Bobo's mission was to hold you accountable to what you posted. Busting your chops was probably just icing on the cake. :)

While your response was initially about Wabash's defense, you did expand on that in your post when you said, " I think the D3FB community at large overcorrected for Albion's graduation losses.  Maybe UWSP beats them by 40 this week and I'm wrong. But from what I saw, Albion didn't look like a team that was starting over by any stretch."

Is it possible you were dangerously close to being wrong? I know that's new territory for you, but is it possible?

emma17

Quote from: bleedpurple on September 11, 2016, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: emma17 on September 11, 2016, 01:17:26 PM
Reading the box score of Stout-St. Thomas, the score disparity is a bit surprising.
Stout did ok in terms of total yards given up and they certainly didn't get killed by Roberts.
Looks like several big plays on D and Special Teams along w penalties drove the blowout score.

I caught a little of the UWSP game, they looked good and faster than I remember. They will be a tough out this year I imagine. UWL may also have something to say in the conference race. 2016 looks to be an absolute slugfest. The WIAC could end up w 4 teams in top 15.

Or one. I guess it depends on how many losses the top 5 teams hang on each other.

I see UWSP has not cracked the top 25 and in fact only received 3 votes in the Others Receiving Votes category after two strong games. Hard to imagine so many voters find so many more teams deserving of a vote than UWSP.
They have the murderer's row of WIAC scheduled to play starting in a few weeks: UWP, OWO, UWW AND UWL.

wally_wabash

Quote from: bleedpurple on September 12, 2016, 09:40:25 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on September 11, 2016, 11:01:11 AM
Quote from: BoBo on September 11, 2016, 04:34:52 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on September 07, 2016, 10:36:56 AM
Quote from: BoBo on September 07, 2016, 09:11:53 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on September 06, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 06, 2016, 02:29:08 PM
I'll be very interested in the UWSP and Albion game this weekend, considering Albion almost pulled it off against Wabash a couple days ago. We'll see if Albion is just that good, or if Wabash lost a lot on defense from a year ago. It's rare for a Little Giants team to surrender 34 points in a game to a non-perennial power like that.

Context...there was a blocked punt return for a score and a pick six, so the Wabash defense didn't give up all 34.  Albion did find some things that worked in the second half, but only after they were held to 14 yards total offense in the first half.  Overall, I thought Wabash's defense held up pretty well against a tough offense to play in Week 1.  I think the D3FB community at large overcorrected for Albion's graduation losses.  Maybe UWSP beats them by 40 this week and I'm wrong. But from what I saw, Albion didn't look like a team that was starting over by any stretch.

Some things?...looking over the box score, it appears they found 31 things that worked in the second half.

Yeah, you missed the point.  02's posted indicated that Wabash gave up 34 points and that it looks like Wabash "lost a lot on defense".  I just wanted to clarify that the defense didn't give up all of those points.  One punt block for a TD, one pick six.  That's two touchdowns that happened with the defense on the sideline.  One other that I didn't mention earlier happened when a Wabash defender punched the ball out from an Albion receiver/runner, the loose ball bounced right up to another Albion player running in stride who took that in for a score.  So there's a third score on a play where Wabash's ought to have been rewarded with possession.  The point is, it's easy to see 41-34 and wonder if Wabash's defense is all of a sudden not good.  Do the digging, and it's not nearly as bad a look for the defense as 34 points allowed might have you believe. 

Not hiding from the 300 yards Albion gained in the second half.  I don't care much for that, but Albion is a really good offensive team so they deserve credit.  But all of those points, in fact most of those points, aren't on the defense.

context - I guess it all depends on who they play ... UW-Stevens Point ​50, Albion 13: Kyle Larson threw for 331 yards and one touchdown as the Pointers (2-0) demolished the visiting Britons (0-2).

I realize that your mission here is to bust my chops and that's fine, but you're still not paying any attention at all to the original conversation which was about those 34 points Albion scored against Wabash.  13 were on the defense.  21 were on returns.  Wabash surrendered fewer first downs and fewer yards to Albion than UWSP did and the same 13 points.  So not really much difference between the two looking strictly at the defense.  There are plenty of other reasons to see Wabash 41, Albion 34 and then UWSP 50, Albion 13 and do some head scratching where Wabash is concerned, but not the defense- which was the whole point. 

But good for you, Bobo.  You've been waiting to unload that post all week.  Must have felt really good to hit send on that one.  Thumbs up for you.

I think Bobo's mission was to hold you accountable to what you posted. Busting your chops was probably just icing on the cake. :)

While your response was initially about Wabash's defense, you did expand on that in your post when you said, " I think the D3FB community at large overcorrected for Albion's graduation losses.  Maybe UWSP beats them by 40 this week and I'm wrong. But from what I saw, Albion didn't look like a team that was starting over by any stretch."

Is it possible you were dangerously close to being wrong? I know that's new territory for you, but is it possible?

I'm wrong a lot!  It happens when you try to talk about the future.  I couldn't watch any of this game Saturday night because UWSP's stream didn't work for me, so I can't comment too much.  Looks like Albion bogged down in the red zone a bunch (13 points on 5 RZ trips is baaad), had a couple of special teams meltdowns, multiple turnovers...all of the things that happen that avalanche and lead to scores like 50-13.  It's a bad look for Wabash no doubt, so if you guys want to pour hot lava all over the LGs, go ahead.  There's not much I can say about it at the moment.   :)
"Nothing in the world is more expensive than free."- The Deacon of HBO's The Wire

ScreamingEagles

Quote from: bleedpurple on September 12, 2016, 09:16:23 AM
Quote from: ScreamingEagles on September 11, 2016, 08:35:08 PM
Dominant run game powers UW-L rout

http://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/dominant-run-game-powers-uw-l-rout/article_19d06912-d867-5500-b9b6-11b00d6ea5a0.html

QuoteBY THE NUMBERS

320: Rushing yards for UW-L, led by Tyler Jenkins' 105

1950: UW-L's 65 points were the most since a 72-0 win over UW-Superior in 1950

30: Yards gained in the first half by Ripon on 27 plays.

8: Sacks by the Eagles defense


Special teams pulling weight for Eagles

http://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/special-teams-pulling-weight-for-eagles/article_ffd73de0-77e4-50b4-810b-15c271189407.html

QuoteUW-L junior receiver Ryan Kruser fielded the ensuing punt on a bounce, sprinted forward, made a move to shake a defender and then kicked into a different gear to score on a 76-yard return. It was the first punt return for UW-L since Eric Donoval took one back against Platteville in 2008.

Working out pretty well for Kruser on the football field so far....

I just find it amazing UW-L hasn't returned a punt since 2008.  That's a lot of fair catches!  ;)

Good call - that's why I quote the articles, not write them!
UW-La Crosse

badgerwarhawk

Quote from: wally_wabash on September 12, 2016, 01:07:30 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on September 12, 2016, 09:40:25 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on September 11, 2016, 11:01:11 AM
Quote from: BoBo on September 11, 2016, 04:34:52 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on September 07, 2016, 10:36:56 AM
Quote from: BoBo on September 07, 2016, 09:11:53 AM
Quote from: wally_wabash on September 06, 2016, 02:46:19 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 06, 2016, 02:29:08 PM
I'll be very interested in the UWSP and Albion game this weekend, considering Albion almost pulled it off against Wabash a couple days ago. We'll see if Albion is just that good, or if Wabash lost a lot on defense from a year ago. It's rare for a Little Giants team to surrender 34 points in a game to a non-perennial power like that.

Context...there was a blocked punt return for a score and a pick six, so the Wabash defense didn't give up all 34.  Albion did find some things that worked in the second half, but only after they were held to 14 yards total offense in the first half.  Overall, I thought Wabash's defense held up pretty well against a tough offense to play in Week 1.  I think the D3FB community at large overcorrected for Albion's graduation losses.  Maybe UWSP beats them by 40 this week and I'm wrong. But from what I saw, Albion didn't look like a team that was starting over by any stretch.

Some things?...looking over the box score, it appears they found 31 things that worked in the second half.

Yeah, you missed the point.  02's posted indicated that Wabash gave up 34 points and that it looks like Wabash "lost a lot on defense".  I just wanted to clarify that the defense didn't give up all of those points.  One punt block for a TD, one pick six.  That's two touchdowns that happened with the defense on the sideline.  One other that I didn't mention earlier happened when a Wabash defender punched the ball out from an Albion receiver/runner, the loose ball bounced right up to another Albion player running in stride who took that in for a score.  So there's a third score on a play where Wabash's ought to have been rewarded with possession.  The point is, it's easy to see 41-34 and wonder if Wabash's defense is all of a sudden not good.  Do the digging, and it's not nearly as bad a look for the defense as 34 points allowed might have you believe. 

Not hiding from the 300 yards Albion gained in the second half.  I don't care much for that, but Albion is a really good offensive team so they deserve credit.  But all of those points, in fact most of those points, aren't on the defense.

context - I guess it all depends on who they play ... UW-Stevens Point ​50, Albion 13: Kyle Larson threw for 331 yards and one touchdown as the Pointers (2-0) demolished the visiting Britons (0-2).

I realize that your mission here is to bust my chops and that's fine, but you're still not paying any attention at all to the original conversation which was about those 34 points Albion scored against Wabash.  13 were on the defense.  21 were on returns.  Wabash surrendered fewer first downs and fewer yards to Albion than UWSP did and the same 13 points.  So not really much difference between the two looking strictly at the defense.  There are plenty of other reasons to see Wabash 41, Albion 34 and then UWSP 50, Albion 13 and do some head scratching where Wabash is concerned, but not the defense- which was the whole point. 

But good for you, Bobo.  You've been waiting to unload that post all week.  Must have felt really good to hit send on that one.  Thumbs up for you.

I think Bobo's mission was to hold you accountable to what you posted. Busting your chops was probably just icing on the cake. :)

While your response was initially about Wabash's defense, you did expand on that in your post when you said, " I think the D3FB community at large overcorrected for Albion's graduation losses.  Maybe UWSP beats them by 40 this week and I'm wrong. But from what I saw, Albion didn't look like a team that was starting over by any stretch."

Is it possible you were dangerously close to being wrong? I know that's new territory for you, but is it possible?

I'm wrong a lot!  It happens when you try to talk about the future.  I couldn't watch any of this game Saturday night because UWSP's stream didn't work for me, so I can't comment too much.  Looks like Albion bogged down in the red zone a bunch (13 points on 5 RZ trips is baaad), had a couple of special teams meltdowns, multiple turnovers...all of the things that happen that avalanche and lead to scores like 50-13.  It's a bad look for Wabash no doubt, so if you guys want to pour hot lava all over the LGs, go ahead.  There's not much I can say about it at the moment.   :)

Thank you for putting it into context for us Wally.   ;)  ;)  ;)

I hope I've included enough winking guys to indicate that my tongue is in my cheek Wally.  Sorry, sometimes I just can't help myself.
"Strange days have found us.  Strange days have tracked us down." .... J. Morrison

ScreamingEagles

Another interesting article from the La Crosse Tribune:

Colten Bartholomew: Say what you will, but Eagles have done their job

http://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/colten-bartholomew-say-what-you-will-but-eagles-have-done/article_49206210-cb8e-56d5-9b95-3db71d722c11.html


I think Warhawk fans would agree on the importance of getting real game experience for the backups, and how that prepares them for future seasons.

QuoteWhile it may not seem like it, these games have served more purpose than just energizing a program that had fallen on some rough times after three consecutive 3-7 seasons. Certainly that energy helps the team practice and play better, but more tangibly, the blowouts have allowed first-year coach Mike Schmidt to get young players on the field for significant chunks of time.

Starters began calling the sideline home early in the third quarter in both games, so a team for which depth has been an issue has been able to get its freshmen and sophomores — third- and fourth-stringers on the depth chart — minutes against a real opponent.

"It's huge," Schmidt said of getting young players in the game. "That's why we coach even harder in those later moments, because you don't know when their turn is coming up. I've been on teams here where the fifth-string running back becomes the first string.

"Any kind of experience we can get for this year, or even next year, is big for any of those guys who aren't in the two-deep and wouldn't normally play."
UW-La Crosse

badgerwarhawk

Congrats to WARHAWKS Drew Patterson and Colin Buck both of whom were selected to this week's DIII Team Of The Week. 
"Strange days have found us.  Strange days have tracked us down." .... J. Morrison

02 Warhawk

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 13, 2016, 10:48:03 AM
Congrats to WARHAWKS Drew Patterson and Colin Buck both of whom were selected to this week's DIII Team Of The Week.

Nice. Colin's mom is my daughter's 2nd grade teacher this year. Heck of a game for both those guys

BoBo

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 13, 2016, 10:48:03 AM
Congrats to WARHAWKS Drew Patterson and Colin Buck both of whom were selected to this week's DIII Team Of The Week.

Add WIAC Offensive and Defensive POW.

ScreamingEagles guy was the Special Team POW.

http://sidearm.sites.s3.amazonaws.com/wiacsports.com/documents/2016/8/30/2016WIACFootballWeeklyRelease.pdf
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

02 Warhawk

Slow week for the WIAC (except if you're a Stout fan). I guess all eyes will be on the Linfield/MHB game.

emma17

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 16, 2016, 09:46:31 AM
Slow week for the WIAC (except if you're a Stout fan). I guess all eyes will be on the Linfield/MHB game.

It will be fun watching our little brothers play  ;D
Kidding, just kidding.

I'm very interested in the CCIW games. Is Carthage really good?  I have a rooting interest in them as they have recruited some local kids - including the starting and back up QB.
Also interested to see if NCC is back to form.

BoBo

Quote from: emma17 on September 16, 2016, 10:26:44 AM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 16, 2016, 09:46:31 AM
Slow week for the WIAC (except if you're a Stout fan). I guess all eyes will be on the Linfield/MHB game.

It will be fun watching our little brothers play  ;D
Kidding, just kidding.

I'm very interested in the CCIW games. Is Carthage really good?  I have a rooting interest in them as they have recruited some local kids - including the starting and back up QB.
Also interested to see if NCC is back to form.

You could also watch Morningside vs Dordt (1pm central time) in a big NAIA tilt in the Great Plains Athletic Conference. Trap game for Morningside? Two undefeated teams on the gridiron, can't beat that!!

LINK: http://www.dordt.edu/cgi-bin/events/calendar/webcast.pl?id=8958

That, my friend, you cannot find on D3football.com scoreboard.
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."