FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Mr. Ypsi]

We thought Mrs. Y was the other half of your split personality.

Nope.  She is real, and we have two sons and three grandkids (so far).  My personality may be viridescent, but it is not split.

[PRP96]

There seems to be a lot of confusion on the "gray shirt."  I have worked in college athletics for 20 plus years.  A "gray shirt" is a walk on who joins the program in the 2nd semester.  When a student enrolls into school their eligibility clock automatically begins.  They then have 5 years to complete 4 years of participation,  unless a red shirt is granted by the conference.  Yes, conference actually approve or deny a red shirt, not the NCAA.

[BDB]

We thought Mrs. Y was the other half of your split personality.

Nope.  She is real, and we have two sons and three grandkids (so far).  My personality may be viridescent, but it is not split.

Ypsi, since you are going to use words here some of us don't know, allow me this definition:

viridescent
/ˌvɪrɪˈdɛsənt/
adjective
1.
greenish or tending to become green

Now explain how that fits in!

[WRMUalum13]

There seems to be a lot of confusion on the "gray shirt."  I have worked in college athletics for 20 plus years.  A "gray shirt" is a walk on who joins the program in the 2nd semester.  When a student enrolls into school their eligibility clock automatically begins.  They then have 5 years to complete 4 years of participation,  unless a red shirt is granted by the conference.  Yes, conference actually approve or deny a red shirt, not the NCAA.

On what grounds would a conference deny a redshirt?

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

There seems to be a lot of confusion on the "gray shirt."  I have worked in college athletics for 20 plus years.  A "gray shirt" is a walk on who joins the program in the 2nd semester.  When a student enrolls into school their eligibility clock automatically begins.  They then have 5 years to complete 4 years of participation,  unless a red shirt is granted by the conference.  Yes, conference actually approve or deny a red shirt, not the NCAA.

On what grounds would a conference deny a redshirt

I believe most D3 conferences don't allow Academic Redshirt years. Some may deny a medical redshirt for various reasons.  Too many games played, already had a redshirt, etc.

[WRMUalum13]

There seems to be a lot of confusion on the "gray shirt."  I have worked in college athletics for 20 plus years.  A "gray shirt" is a walk on who joins the program in the 2nd semester.  When a student enrolls into school their eligibility clock automatically begins.  They then have 5 years to complete 4 years of participation,  unless a red shirt is granted by the conference.  Yes, conference actually approve or deny a red shirt, not the NCAA.

On what grounds would a conference deny a redshirt

I believe most D3 conferences don't allow Academic Redshirt years. Some may deny a medical redshirt for various reasons.  Too many games played, already had a redshirt, etc.

Yes I'm almost positive red shirting is prohibited in all d3 except medical.

[PRP96]

Each conference would have their own policy in regards to red shirts.  Some are very strict.  Every case is different.  Some conferences will deny a medical redshirt if the athlete in question played even one snap in the 1st game.

[Mr. Ypsi]

We thought Mrs. Y was the other half of your split personality.

Nope.  She is real, and we have two sons and three grandkids (so far).  My personality may be viridescent, but it is not split.

Ypsi, since you are going to use words here some of us don't know, allow me this definition:

viridescent
/ˌvɪrɪˈdɛsənt/
adjective
1.
greenish or tending to become green

Now explain how that fits in!

I admit I had to look it up myself after another (CCIW) poster used the word.   I'm an IWU alum and fan; they are Green (and White).  Since I try my best to be a neutral, all d3 fan, but definitely lean towards IWU, I am henceforth viridescent!

[Gregory Sager]

Redshirting is illegal in NCAA Division III, PRP96. It's spelled out in the NCAA Division III Manual here:

14.2.4 Criteria for Determining Season of Eligibility.
14.2.4.1 Minimum Amount of Participation. A season of intercollegiate participation shall be counted in the student-athlete's sport when a student-athlete participates (practices or competes) during or after the first contest in the traditional segment following the student-athlete's initial participation of that academic year at that institution or when the student-athlete engages in intercollegiate competition during the nontraditional segment in that sport. This provision is applicable to intercollegiate athletics participation (practice or competition) conducted by a Division III collegiate institution at the varsity, junior varsity or freshman team level. (See Bylaw 14.1.12, for student-athletes participating in a recognized foreign exchange/study abroad program). (Revised: 1/11/94, 1/11/00 effective 8/1/00, 1/8/01, 1/12/04 effective 8/1/04 for any athletics participation occurring on or after 8/1/04, 9/21/05, 11/16/05, 1/8/07 effective 8/1/07 for participation occurring on or after 8/1/07, 10/15/08, 1/19/13)

In other words, if you practice with the team during the season you use up a year of eligibility whether or not you suit up for games.

A medical redshirt, more formally known as a medical hardship waiver, is a completely different thing altogether than a redshirt. And a medical hardship waiver is administered at the league level, not by Indianapolis.

Also, there is no such thing as an "eligibility clock" in D3 in the sense that you use it here:

When a student enrolls into school their eligibility clock automatically begins.  They then have 5 years to complete 4 years of participation,  unless a red shirt is granted by the conference.  Yes, conference actually approve or deny a red shirt, not the NCAA.

Yes, you have ten semesters (or 15 quarters) of full-time enrollment in which to get in your eight semesters (or twelve quarters) of eligibility, but in D3 they don't have to be consecutive semesters or quarters. You can take a break from school for two or three years -- or, heck, 37 years, if your life has taken a path that's more interesting than most -- and then come back to school and still participate in intercollegiate athletics at the D3 level without having lost any eligibility. That's how you can get stories like that of Mike Flynt in D3:

http://www.espn.com/college-football/news/story?id=3062376

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Then I have two years of eligibility left!  But only two semesters to complete them.

[Desertraider]

Then I have two years of eligibility left!  But only two semesters to complete them.

Well heck then I have 4 years of eligibility left according to Ohio State. I attended for 1 semster and then left. "Transferred" 5 years later to Hiram and graduated, did my MA and then PhD....applied for a job at OSU and a week later got a letter telling me I had x amount of time to enroll and complete my BA.  Now we know how JT Barrett seems to have been around for 20 years.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Then I have two years of eligibility left!  But only two semesters to complete them.

Well heck then I have 4 years of eligibility left according to Ohio State. I attended for 1 semster and then left. "Transferred" 5 years later to Hiram and graduated, did my MA and then PhD....applied for a job at OSU and a week later got a letter telling me I had x amount of time to enroll and complete my BA.  Now we know how JT Barrett seems to have been around for 20 years.

Must have been how Rocky Pentello played for Capital all those years...

[Teamski]

Good luck to Oshkosh today!  This ex-Milwaukeean will be rooting for you guys big time.....eh!

-Ski

[emma17]

2:26 left and third down. I assume Mt will go four downs. Will UWO finally get a stop.

[cubs]

That game is going to sting for awhile.....  From a 35-10 lead with 9:46 left in the third quarter to a 43-40 loss.