FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[WarhawkDad]

Congratulations to former Warhawk offensive lineman and son of a certain poster for his recent promotion:

Jim Norris is the new football coach at @GraftonHIHawks . He spent the past two seasons as an assistant to departed coach Shaun Behrend. Norris played at UW-Whitewater where he helped the Warhawks win three national titles. #wisfb

Congratulations Jim! And WD, I live 10 minutes from the Blackhawks' field so feel free to drag me to a game!

Appreciate the sentiments.  Very proud of his accomplishments and will be attending many games. The years playing and coaching at UWW have served him well!   

WarhawkDad

[02 Warhawk]

Congratulations to former Warhawk offensive lineman and son of a certain poster for his recent promotion:

Jim Norris is the new football coach at @GraftonHIHawks . He spent the past two seasons as an assistant to departed coach Shaun Behrend. Norris played at UW-Whitewater where he helped the Warhawks win three national titles. #wisfb

Congratulations Jim! And WD, I live 10 minutes from the Blackhawks' field so feel free to drag me to a game!

Appreciate the sentiments.  Very proud of his accomplishments and will be attending many games. The years playing and coaching at UWW have served him well!   

WarhawkDad

Wow! Great news!!

[badgerwarhawk]

Congratulations to former Warhawk offensive lineman and son of a certain poster for his recent promotion:

Jim Norris is the new football coach at @GraftonHIHawks . He spent the past two seasons as an assistant to departed coach Shaun Behrend. Norris played at UW-Whitewater where he helped the Warhawks win three national titles. #wisfb

Congratulations Jim! And WD, I live 10 minutes from the Blackhawks' field so feel free to drag me to a game!

Appreciate the sentiments.  Very proud of his accomplishments and will be attending many games. The years playing and coaching at UWW have served him well!   

WarhawkDad

Way cool and good luck

[WW]

I'm glad UWW is showing recruits. They need to regenerate excitement in the program and this is a good start. Once UWW gets back to championship ways, if there is concern of showing the recruits too soon, they can go back to the old way.

Boehm is a big boy w a little nasty in him.

Boehm looks like the class of the class. Surprised they identified just 41 players in their recruiting class... isn't that a little light compared to previous years?

[emma17]

WW- I don't know the recruit class numbers well, maybe Bleed will chime in as he has a better feel. I do remember when LL was here he was focused on the right recruits more than numbers. I know that's sort of an obvious statement, but I believe the staff would deny a decent percentage of interested athletes. They only have so many hours to practice and as such, only so much time they could give one on one coaching. In some cases, less was more.
I've no idea if that is the current philosophy. 

[WW]

WW- I don't know the recruit class numbers well, maybe Bleed will chime in as he has a better feel. I do remember when LL was here he was focused on the right recruits more than numbers. I know that's sort of an obvious statement, but I believe the staff would deny a decent percentage of interested athletes. They only have so many hours to practice and as such, only so much time they could give one on one coaching. In some cases, less was more.
I've no idea if that is the current philosophy.

When LL was there WIAC roster limits were still in place. These days, I think the prevailing point of view is take any and all of them as freshmen, and let em get sorted out on the practice field. Whitewater may operate differently from a qualitative perspective. Their propensity to greyshirt freshmen athletes probably has some effect as well. And maybe some have pending grade issues and simply weren't announced on their twit. Their incoming class just seems light when others in the state are bringing in more than 50.

[bleedpurple]

I'm glad UWW is showing recruits. They need to regenerate excitement in the program and this is a good start. Once UWW gets back to championship ways, if there is concern of showing the recruits too soon, they can go back to the old way.

Boehm is a big boy w a little nasty in him.

Boehm looks like the class of the class. Surprised they identified just 41 players in their recruiting class... isn't that a little light compared to previous years?

No, it's right in the ballpark of our usual freshman class.  Last year we carried 40 freshmen on the roster.

[bleedpurple]

WW- I don't know the recruit class numbers well, maybe Bleed will chime in as he has a better feel. I do remember when LL was here he was focused on the right recruits more than numbers. I know that's sort of an obvious statement, but I believe the staff would deny a decent percentage of interested athletes. They only have so many hours to practice and as such, only so much time they could give one on one coaching. In some cases, less was more.
I've no idea if that is the current philosophy.

When LL was there WIAC roster limits were still in place. These days, I think the prevailing point of view is take any and all of them as freshmen, and let em get sorted out on the practice field. Whitewater may operate differently from a qualitative perspective. Their propensity to greyshirt freshmen athletes probably has some effect as well. And maybe some have pending grade issues and simply weren't announced on their twit. Their incoming class just seems light when others in the state are bringing in more than 50.

UW-W rarely greyshirts freshmen. The only scenario in which they greyshirt a freshman is if the kid commits late and they have filled their "slots".  UW-W is philosophically opposed to "take any and all".  Each position is "allotted" a specific number of spots they are able to recruit based on the returning number at those positions.  Those athletes recruited and committing among those slots will be on the team, not greyshirted. We will be upfront with the kids, telling them that if the spot is filled when they commit, they won't be playing this year.  i don't know where you get the thought that UW-W greyshirts a large number of freshmen because that's simply not true.

[WW]

WW- I don't know the recruit class numbers well, maybe Bleed will chime in as he has a better feel. I do remember when LL was here he was focused on the right recruits more than numbers. I know that's sort of an obvious statement, but I believe the staff would deny a decent percentage of interested athletes. They only have so many hours to practice and as such, only so much time they could give one on one coaching. In some cases, less was more.
I've no idea if that is the current philosophy.

When LL was there WIAC roster limits were still in place. These days, I think the prevailing point of view is take any and all of them as freshmen, and let em get sorted out on the practice field. Whitewater may operate differently from a qualitative perspective. Their propensity to greyshirt freshmen athletes probably has some effect as well. And maybe some have pending grade issues and simply weren't announced on their twit. Their incoming class just seems light when others in the state are bringing in more than 50.

UW-W rarely greyshirts freshmen. The only scenario in which they greyshirt a freshman is if the kid commits late and they have filled their "slots".  UW-W is philosophically opposed to "take any and all".  Each position is "allotted" a specific number of spots they are able to recruit based on the returning number at those positions.  Those athletes recruited and committing among those slots will be on the team, not greyshirted. We will be upfront with the kids, telling them that if the spot is filled when they commit, they won't be playing this year.  i don't know where you get the thought that UW-W greyshirts a large number of freshmen because that's simply not true.

A review of the 2017 freshmen on the roster looks like there were 7 or 8. I'll admit I expected a number more than twice that, largely because of the perception that I've heard advanced by area high school coaches that UWW does greyshirt a lot of kids. Since I'll presume you're on staff, did this change at UWW after roster limits were eliminated? Or is that a typical number?

I have no position either in favor of or against greyshirting. It's not unfair to anybody provided it's done with the full knowledge of the kid and as early in the process as possible so that he can assess it during his decision-making process, not once he's paid a deposit. It works in the favor of a lot of kids -- incoming 220-lb O linemen, for example. Or where you're likely to be in a 4 1/2 or 5-year academic program --Platteville's engineering major, for example.

[02 Warhawk]

I see Lindy's came out with their top 20 preseason poll, and Whitewater isn't on it.

Oh well...there's always next season.

[MUC57]

02 Warhawk

Not to worry. We know D3football is the ultimate source. These other polls are strictly pretenders. I would put UWW on every poll. Hey, 6 national championships gets my attention. If there has been a brief absence from the national scene, it's probably not going to last. Too good a program and too good a tradition. You'll be back!
Go Warhawks. Go Raiders. Let's do it again! ☠🏈

[emma17]

No ranking from Lindy's? Although I don't care from the perspective of confidence a good season is coming our way, it is interesting.

WW and Bleed. You presented drastic differences in the number of freshmen on the 2017 roster. Was one of the rosters a travel roster and the other a full team roster?

[MiacMan]

I see Lindy's came out with their top 20 preseason poll, and Whitewater isn't on it.

Oh well...there's always next season.

Where'd you find those rankings? Can you post a link? Thanks!

[badgerwarhawk]

There were 43 freshman listed in the 2017 team roster. 

I was wondering if WW's number was freshman we did grey shirt though I don't know how he would get that number.  We don't grey shirt recruits.  If we recruited you to play for us you'll be on the roster as a freshman.  If you were a walk on you may not.

The goal is to be ranked when the season ends not before it begins.

[WW]

I identified 7 or 8 2016 HS graduates who appeared on the 2017 UWW roster as freshmen. In other words, kids who last played football in the 2015 season, took a season off, and therefore could be assumed to have greyshirted. Perhaps those are the walk-ons bw references.

The Lindy rankings are behind their pay wall. If anybody's got 'em, pls share where other WIACs have landed.