FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[WW]

Did Duranso get injured or did he come out of the game due to ineffectiveness? Jeez, that game was a battle to the end... I'm also unsure whether to believe I overestimated the Titans or underestimated Carthage

I think the change was made to see if it could spark the offense. Duranso returned for the last drive of the game.
[/quote]

It's been almost three years since Duranso saw real game action (outside of JVs). Still, I sure expected a better performance. Lots of stuff I thought I knew about WIAC....

[USee]

Carthage came into the season with 7 defensive returnees from a unit that was 11th in the country. I believe they are better this year. UWO won't face many better defenses this year than Carthage. The Carthage offense, not so much.

[bleedpurple]

A nice article in the LaCrosse Tribune about the comeback story of running back Jalen Clark.

https://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/uw-la-crosse-football-jalen-clark-helps-give-eagles-deepest/article_777eab99-9731-567d-a11c-618a19e0bee2.html

I found the following quote by Coach Schmidt interesting:

"That's (the long run) what we recruited him for, we knew he'd be a good player for us when we recruited him from (Division II Minnesota) Mankato."

I know coaches will look lots of places for talent.  My assumption has always been that other college campuses weren't one of them.

[retagent]

This quote does not omit the possibility that Clark approached UWL initially, and then the recruiting efforts started. Or, they may have been after him prior to his choosing to attend 'Kato, and they let him know that they were still open to him if he decided to switch.

[02 Warhawk]

A nice article in the LaCrosse Tribune about the comeback story of running back Jalen Clark.

https://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/uw-la-crosse-football-jalen-clark-helps-give-eagles-deepest/article_777eab99-9731-567d-a11c-618a19e0bee2.html

I found the following quote by Coach Schmidt interesting:

"That's (the long run) what we recruited him for, we knew he'd be a good player for us when we recruited him from (Division II Minnesota) Mankato."

I know coaches will look lots of places for talent.  My assumption has always been that other college campuses weren't one of them.

Plus, isn't that highly illegal too? I'm sure that's not what he meant. Probably just a misuse of words.

[wally_wabash]

A nice article in the LaCrosse Tribune about the comeback story of running back Jalen Clark.

https://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/uw-la-crosse-football-jalen-clark-helps-give-eagles-deepest/article_777eab99-9731-567d-a11c-618a19e0bee2.html

I found the following quote by Coach Schmidt interesting:

"That's (the long run) what we recruited him for, we knew he'd be a good player for us when we recruited him from (Division II Minnesota) Mankato."

I know coaches will look lots of places for talent.  My assumption has always been that other college campuses weren't one of them.

Plus, isn't that highly illegal too? I'm sure that's not what he meant. Probably just a misuse of words.

It's a good question and I've often wondered how those conversations get started.  Per D-III bylaw 13, institutions are not allowed to make contact with S-As at other four-year institutions without first obtaining permission from the other institution (if the S-A in question is at a D1 or D2...D3 S-As can self-release).  I think it's naive to believe that some sort of contact doesn't happen before an official permission to contact document is drawn and approved in most of these situations. 

Stories about guys that were recruited by a D-III, chose to go to D2 or D1, then come back to their initial D3 contact after not playing or not finding the right fit at the scholarship school are more and more common.  Recruiting doesn't necessarily end after a kid's senior year in HS anymore. 

[WW]

A nice article in the LaCrosse Tribune about the comeback story of running back Jalen Clark.

https://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/uw-la-crosse-football-jalen-clark-helps-give-eagles-deepest/article_777eab99-9731-567d-a11c-618a19e0bee2.html

I found the following quote by Coach Schmidt interesting:

"That's (the long run) what we recruited him for, we knew he'd be a good player for us when we recruited him from (Division II Minnesota) Mankato."

I know coaches will look lots of places for talent.  My assumption has always been that other college campuses weren't one of them.

Plus, isn't that highly illegal too? I'm sure that's not what he meant. Probably just a misuse of words.

It's a good question and I've often wondered how those conversations get started.  Per D-III bylaw 13, institutions are not allowed to make contact with S-As at other four-year institutions without first obtaining permission from the other institution (if the S-A in question is at a D1 or D2...D3 S-As can self-release).  I think it's naive to believe that some sort of contact doesn't happen before an official permission to contact document is drawn and approved in most of these situations. 

Stories about guys that were recruited by a D-III, chose to go to D2 or D1, then come back to their initial D3 contact after not playing or not finding the right fit at the scholarship school are more and more common.  Recruiting doesn't necessarily end after a kid's senior year in HS anymore.

That's a dumb thing for Schmidt to say because it implies they broke rules but I find it hard to believe that it went down that simply. I just don't think UWL or any D3s mine D2 programs for malcontents. But if you open the door after they make contact, that's a different deal.

[wally_wabash]

A nice article in the LaCrosse Tribune about the comeback story of running back Jalen Clark.

https://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/uw-la-crosse-football-jalen-clark-helps-give-eagles-deepest/article_777eab99-9731-567d-a11c-618a19e0bee2.html

I found the following quote by Coach Schmidt interesting:

"That's (the long run) what we recruited him for, we knew he'd be a good player for us when we recruited him from (Division II Minnesota) Mankato."

I know coaches will look lots of places for talent.  My assumption has always been that other college campuses weren't one of them.

Plus, isn't that highly illegal too? I'm sure that's not what he meant. Probably just a misuse of words.

It's a good question and I've often wondered how those conversations get started.  Per D-III bylaw 13, institutions are not allowed to make contact with S-As at other four-year institutions without first obtaining permission from the other institution (if the S-A in question is at a D1 or D2...D3 S-As can self-release).  I think it's naive to believe that some sort of contact doesn't happen before an official permission to contact document is drawn and approved in most of these situations. 

Stories about guys that were recruited by a D-III, chose to go to D2 or D1, then come back to their initial D3 contact after not playing or not finding the right fit at the scholarship school are more and more common.  Recruiting doesn't necessarily end after a kid's senior year in HS anymore.

That's a dumb thing for Schmidt to say because it implies they broke rules but I find it hard to believe that it went down that simply. I just don't think UWL or any D3s mine D2 programs for malcontents. But if you open the door after they make contact, that's a different deal.

I don't think it's implied that rules were broken.  You can absolutely engage in recruiting activity with a S-A from another institution as long as that institution has given permission.  That is totally legal.  The quote doesn't infer one way or another that permission was given, but I'd give the benefit of the doubt to Coach Schmidt here.  I don't think he would say anything close to that quote on the record if the recruiting contact was not above board. 

I think it's also presumptuous to label kids that leave D2s (or anywhere else) as malcontents.  Who knows what their situations are and why it doesn't work out for some S-As at some schools.  I don't think it has to be that the kid is unhappy and acting out. 

[WW]

A nice article in the LaCrosse Tribune about the comeback story of running back Jalen Clark.

https://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/uw-la-crosse-football-jalen-clark-helps-give-eagles-deepest/article_777eab99-9731-567d-a11c-618a19e0bee2.html

I found the following quote by Coach Schmidt interesting:

"That's (the long run) what we recruited him for, we knew he'd be a good player for us when we recruited him from (Division II Minnesota) Mankato."

I know coaches will look lots of places for talent.  My assumption has always been that other college campuses weren't one of them.

Plus, isn't that highly illegal too? I'm sure that's not what he meant. Probably just a misuse of words.

It's a good question and I've often wondered how those conversations get started.  Per D-III bylaw 13, institutions are not allowed to make contact with S-As at other four-year institutions without first obtaining permission from the other institution (if the S-A in question is at a D1 or D2...D3 S-As can self-release).  I think it's naive to believe that some sort of contact doesn't happen before an official permission to contact document is drawn and approved in most of these situations. 

Stories about guys that were recruited by a D-III, chose to go to D2 or D1, then come back to their initial D3 contact after not playing or not finding the right fit at the scholarship school are more and more common.  Recruiting doesn't necessarily end after a kid's senior year in HS anymore.

That's a dumb thing for Schmidt to say because it implies they broke rules but I find it hard to believe that it went down that simply. I just don't think UWL or any D3s mine D2 programs for malcontents. But if you open the door after they make contact, that's a different deal.

I don't think it's implied that rules were broken.  You can absolutely engage in recruiting activity with a S-A from another institution as long as that institution has given permission.  That is totally legal.  The quote doesn't infer one way or another that permission was given, but I'd give the benefit of the doubt to Coach Schmidt here.  I don't think he would say anything close to that quote on the record if the recruiting contact was not above board. 

I think it's also presumptuous to label kids that leave D2s (or anywhere else) as malcontents.  Who knows what their situations are and why it doesn't work out for some S-As at some schools.  I don't think it has to be that the kid is unhappy and acting out.

I am giving the benefit of the doubt to Coach Schmidt re rule adherence. My point is that if a guy is sitting in front of you with a tape recorder and you're going to be quoted saying something like that, add the part about "he reached out to us after the school year" or "after receiving permission from UMM." Maybe he did and it just didn't get put in the story. But otherwise you get a message board blowing up about UWL following recruiting rules.

Malcontent may be too strong. But if a kid leaves a D2 or anywhere, it's because he wasn't content there. Yeah, "unhappy," as in too far from home, don't like the coach, won't see the field for another three years. But I didn't mean to imply he's "acting out."

[jamtod]

I had a discussion elsewhere about how every D3 school should follow the MIAC naming conventions (St John's Johnnies, Tommies, Oles, Bennies, Gusties, etc). I suggested that the UW-Platteville Platties should have a Platypus as their mascot, so a friend photoshopped this helmet:

[matblake]

I had a discussion elsewhere about how every D3 school should follow the MIAC naming conventions (St John's Johnnies, Tommies, Oles, Bennies, Gusties, etc). I suggested that the UW-Platteville Platties should have a Platypus as their mascot, so a friend photoshopped this helmet:

The hat on Paulie the Platypus officially makes this my favorite non-real mascot of all time.

[bleedpurple]

A nice article in the LaCrosse Tribune about the comeback story of running back Jalen Clark.

https://lacrossetribune.com/sports/local/college/uw-la-crosse-football-jalen-clark-helps-give-eagles-deepest/article_777eab99-9731-567d-a11c-618a19e0bee2.html

I found the following quote by Coach Schmidt interesting:

"That's (the long run) what we recruited him for, we knew he'd be a good player for us when we recruited him from (Division II Minnesota) Mankato."

I know coaches will look lots of places for talent.  My assumption has always been that other college campuses weren't one of them.

Plus, isn't that highly illegal too? I'm sure that's not what he meant. Probably just a misuse of words.

It's a good question and I've often wondered how those conversations get started.  Per D-III bylaw 13, institutions are not allowed to make contact with S-As at other four-year institutions without first obtaining permission from the other institution (if the S-A in question is at a D1 or D2...D3 S-As can self-release).  I think it's naive to believe that some sort of contact doesn't happen before an official permission to contact document is drawn and approved in most of these situations. 

Stories about guys that were recruited by a D-III, chose to go to D2 or D1, then come back to their initial D3 contact after not playing or not finding the right fit at the scholarship school are more and more common.  Recruiting doesn't necessarily end after a kid's senior year in HS anymore.

That's a dumb thing for Schmidt to say because it implies they broke rules but I find it hard to believe that it went down that simply. I just don't think UWL or any D3s mine D2 programs for malcontents. But if you open the door after they make contact, that's a different deal.

I don't think it's implied that rules were broken.  You can absolutely engage in recruiting activity with a S-A from another institution as long as that institution has given permission.  That is totally legal.  The quote doesn't infer one way or another that permission was given, but I'd give the benefit of the doubt to Coach Schmidt here.  I don't think he would say anything close to that quote on the record if the recruiting contact was not above board. 

I think it's also presumptuous to label kids that leave D2s (or anywhere else) as malcontents.  Who knows what their situations are and why it doesn't work out for some S-As at some schools.  I don't think it has to be that the kid is unhappy and acting out.

I am giving the benefit of the doubt to Coach Schmidt re rule adherence. My point is that if a guy is sitting in front of you with a tape recorder and you're going to be quoted saying something like that, add the part about "he reached out to us after the school year" or "after receiving permission from UMM." Maybe he did and it just didn't get put in the story. But otherwise you get a message board blowing up about UWL following recruiting rules.

Malcontent may be too strong. But if a kid leaves a D2 or anywhere, it's because he wasn't content there. Yeah, "unhappy," as in too far from home, don't like the coach, won't see the field for another three years. But I didn't mean to imply he's "acting out."

I think generally everyone is on the same page (but maybe not):

1. In no way does the quote "prove" that any violation did occur.
2. If the quote is accurate and complete, then it wasn't the smartest thing to say because as stated it sounds like: "We loved his playmaking ability and that's why we recruited him."  To me "recruit" has an element of being proactive, not reactive. Like, "We took action to get him because we knew he'd be a good player for us."  If the kid reached out to UW-L, it seems like "recruited" is an odd word for Coach Schmidt to use.

Also, I think most D-III schools recruit kids that they initially lose to a D-II or D-I school.  Then, if the kid wants to  play closer to home, he contacts one of the schools that recruited him while he was in high school. Happens all the time.  If that was the case, coach should have probably said "That's why we recruited him out of high school. We were very happy when he contacted us about coming to UW-L."  But it's not a violation to misspeak.  That is certainly a viable possibility.

[02 Warhawk]

I had a discussion elsewhere about how every D3 school should follow the MIAC naming conventions (St John's Johnnies, Tommies, Oles, Bennies, Gusties, etc). I suggested that the UW-Platteville Platties should have a Platypus as their mascot, so a friend photoshopped this helmet:

Whitewater Whities.

That would be a PR disaster. Pass.

[jamtod]

I had a discussion elsewhere about how every D3 school should follow the MIAC naming conventions (St John's Johnnies, Tommies, Oles, Bennies, Gusties, etc). I suggested that the UW-Platteville Platties should have a Platypus as their mascot, so a friend photoshopped this helmet:

Whitewater Whities.

That would be a PR disaster. Pass.

KILL WHITIES

[WW]

Since we're talking UWL, I just peeked at their roster. After 82 freshmen reported to camp, the roster now shows 49.