FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[emma17]

I only watched the first half of the Oshkosh/Davenport game, but I didn't miss much it doesn't appear. The Titans lack playmakers. The QB position is weak. It's not just weak for a team that was picked to be a national title contender, it appears weak in general. The quarterbacks that have played for this team, just don't look like college quarterbacks. The arm strength just isn't there. The athleticism just isn't there. Perhaps players didn't want to come the last few years knowing they would sit behind Kasper, but I don't see a conference winning quarterback on this roster. The defense is really stout. But they can't get a stop every possession, especially in the WIAC. I don't see any way this team can compete with Whitewater, Platteville, and LAX with this offense. The team is 3 for 26 on third-down conversions. You can't win in this league with that type of production.

I think you are overly worried.

[emma17]

As for the UWW.
I really love the style of play from RB Alex Peete. As quick as he is, he does not shy away from contact and he displays a very tough attitude. I look forward to watching him.

Great job by the D.
UWW is getting a whole bunch of players playing time in these non conf games. I wonder if they will scale it down, especially at receiver, once the WIAC starts.

I certainly sense a tougher approach by the O and like the holes created up the middle. It seems the edge defenders were closing down fast to prevent big runs up the middle.

As for the passing game, too bubble screens aren't my thing. I like that they will tire a D line out, but it shows very little in terms of a capability to move the ball through the air. Cole likes to throw the 50/50 ball, I'd prefer greater odds of a completion.

No motion, pre-snap shifting as was the trademark of the championship teams. I'm not saying UWW can't win without it, but I'd love to hear he reason two OC's moved away from it.

[AndOne]

I only watched the first half of the Oshkosh/Davenport game, but I didn't miss much it doesn't appear. The Titans lack playmakers. The QB position is weak. It's not just weak for a team that was picked to be a national title contender, it appears weak in general. The quarterbacks that have played for this team, just don't look like college quarterbacks. The arm strength just isn't there. The athleticism just isn't there. Perhaps players didn't want to come the last few years knowing they would sit behind Kasper, but I don't see a conference winning quarterback on this roster. The defense is really stout. But they can't get a stop every possession, especially in the WIAC. I don't see any way this team can compete with Whitewater, Platteville, and LAX with this offense. The team is 3 for 26 on third-down conversions. You can't win in this league with that type of production.

I think you are overly worried.

Since it almost always takes scoring more than 3 points to win, I think being overly worried is about the right degree of worry. 🤔 😏

[bleedpurple]

I only watched the first half of the Oshkosh/Davenport game, but I didn't miss much it doesn't appear. The Titans lack playmakers. The QB position is weak. It's not just weak for a team that was picked to be a national title contender, it appears weak in general. The quarterbacks that have played for this team, just don't look like college quarterbacks. The arm strength just isn't there. The athleticism just isn't there. Perhaps players didn't want to come the last few years knowing they would sit behind Kasper, but I don't see a conference winning quarterback on this roster. The defense is really stout. But they can't get a stop every possession, especially in the WIAC. I don't see any way this team can compete with Whitewater, Platteville, and LAX with this offense. The team is 3 for 26 on third-down conversions. You can't win in this league with that type of production.

I think you are overly worried.

Since it almost always takes scoring more than 3 points to win, I think being overly worried is about the right degree of worry. 🤔 😏

Not to speak for Emma, but I think he feels like:

1. The Davenport defense may be at a higher level than the WIAC defenses they will face.
2. The UW-O offense is a work in process and could improve significantly.

I did not see enough of UW-O to have an opinion.  I know Titan 78 is a pretty reasonable poster and the observations he is making regarding the QB's (arm strength, athleticisim) are not necessarily a function of the competition. And while he cites a statistic (3 for 26 on third downs), that number is so poor that it may signify problems beyond the competition.

Personally, it is hard for me to picture UW-O not being good after the last few years.  I'm guessing Cerroni will fix some things before the WIAC season starts.

[UWO Titan 78]

Granted, I'm a sports pessimist. Being a Cubs fan will do that. And I haven't seen this team in person. However, the eye test tells me they don't have difference makers on offense (especially in the passing game). I think the RBs are capable, but if none of the WRs scare you (like Mentkowski did), you can load the box. Then the onus is on the QB and WR to win one-on-one battles. The Carthage defense was good, and Davenport had athletes, so that may have contributed. But UWW, LAX, and UWP will have athletes too. I have the utmost confidence in this coaching staff. I think they will be prepared ever week, and I think they will compete and improve. I haven't seen the other conference teams this year. However, I've seen 6 quarter of the Titans and this team doesn't flash offensively. They will be a difficult out every week if they don't turn the ball over because of the defense. I can certainly see a 17-16 game against the upper echelon teams in the conference. But I could also see us losing games 13-3.

[badgerwarhawk]

Middle Georgia State must be pretty good because on Sunday they defeated the "University of Florida" 48-0.  Sad how far the Gators have fallen since Meyer left.   

[WW]

Granted, I'm a sports pessimist. Being a Cubs fan will do that. And I haven't seen this team in person. However, the eye test tells me they don't have difference makers on offense (especially in the passing game). I think the RBs are capable, but if none of the WRs scare you (like Mentkowski did), you can load the box. Then the onus is on the QB and WR to win one-on-one battles. The Carthage defense was good, and Davenport had athletes, so that may have contributed. But UWW, LAX, and UWP will have athletes too. I have the utmost confidence in this coaching staff. I think they will be prepared ever week, and I think they will compete and improve. I haven't seen the other conference teams this year. However, I've seen 6 quarter of the Titans and this team doesn't flash offensively. They will be a difficult out every week if they don't turn the ball over because of the defense. I can certainly see a 17-16 game against the upper echelon teams in the conference. But I could also see us losing games 13-3.

What happened at QB? Participation report says Duranso started but, per play log, was replaced by Radavich before he threw a pass? Playing with a backup QB could make a world of difference. He might end up being the better long-run option but to step in after only getting second-team or scout team reps all week, that's tough.

[UWO Titan 78]

Clearly what was given to the announcers was that Duranso was starting. I never noticed Duranso on the field. Perhaps he got injured in warm-ups? It looked like #10 from the get go, when I was watching. The announcers didn't realize it until the second quarter. They kept calling Radovich "Duranso".

[emma17]

Like Bleed said, the Davenport defenders are faster than the WIAC defenders.
If UWO has the players, their non-conf schedule will prove to have been extremely beneficial to the conference games.

Switching subjects, the 2nd half UWW and Chicago Bears' offensive erformances were very similar. A whole bunch of swing/bubble passes as though they lacked confidence in the full passing game. The Bears play and coaching/player decisions provided a week's worth of discussion. Other than "the Bears still suck", where to begin on that game?
I'll start w a less obvious question. If rookie MLB R Smith is so good at coverage, why wasn't he in the game more in the second half?

[KitchenSink]

I think the Whitewater play calling got pretty conservative with a 24-0 lead in the 2nd half.  Especially after a ricochet interception ...

[WW]

Like Bleed said, the Davenport defenders are faster than the WIAC defenders.
If UWO has the players, their non-conf schedule will prove to have been extremely beneficial to the conference games.

Switching subjects, the 2nd half UWW and Chicago Bears' offensive erformances were very similar. A whole bunch of swing/bubble passes as though they lacked confidence in the full passing game. The Bears play and coaching/player decisions provided a week's worth of discussion. Other than "the Bears still suck", where to begin on that game?
I'll start w a less obvious question. If rookie MLB R Smith is so good at coverage, why wasn't he in the game more in the second half?

I haven't seen UWW play yet but what I do know about them is that they're deep and talented at WR. Might be an effort just to get the ball in those guys' hands and see if they make plays.

[02 Warhawk]

Like Bleed said, the Davenport defenders are faster than the WIAC defenders.
If UWO has the players, their non-conf schedule will prove to have been extremely beneficial to the conference games.

Switching subjects, the 2nd half UWW and Chicago Bears' offensive erformances were very similar. A whole bunch of swing/bubble passes as though they lacked confidence in the full passing game. The Bears play and coaching/player decisions provided a week's worth of discussion. Other than "the Bears still suck", where to begin on that game?
I'll start w a less obvious question. If rookie MLB R Smith is so good at coverage, why wasn't he in the game more in the second half?

Is it possible the coaching staff is playing to Cole's strengths, just having him do quick swing passes and bubble screens? In other words saying, we don't trust you throwing the ball down field while we have a lead. But I hope that's not the case.

UWW was very fortunate that Concordia had issues throwing the ball. Concordia had players open that should have resulted in 1st downs. But their WRs either dropped the ball or their QB over shot them time and time again. Granted that was large in part to the constant pressure UWW's front seven was putting on the QB. They didn't have many sacks (I think only one), but they were in the backfield often in passing plays.

I was impressed with Hasty. Seemed like every time Concordia threw his way, he was all over their WRs. Great cover corner.

[emma17]

Like Bleed said, the Davenport defenders are faster than the WIAC defenders.
If UWO has the players, their non-conf schedule will prove to have been extremely beneficial to the conference games.

Switching subjects, the 2nd half UWW and Chicago Bears' offensive erformances were very similar. A whole bunch of swing/bubble passes as though they lacked confidence in the full passing game. The Bears play and coaching/player decisions provided a week's worth of discussion. Other than "the Bears still suck", where to begin on that game?
I'll start w a less obvious question. If rookie MLB R Smith is so good at coverage, why wasn't he in the game more in the second half?

I haven't seen UWW play yet but what I do know about them is that they're deep and talented at WR. Might be an effort just to get the ball in those guys' hands and see if they make plays.

I think you're right about the depth of the receiving corp. In my opinion not all receivers are right for the bubble screen. If I want to get the ball in my receiver's hands to see who can make plays, I'll call the tried and true slant route or crossing route. I can't help but think of the overuse of bubble screens as a strategic cop-out.

Kitchen, you're probably right that the 24-0 lead contributed to conservative play calling-and I guess one can make a case for that approach. On the other hand, you have a new OC and developing QB, what better time to work on the passing game than with a 24-0 lead?

[JCUStreaks70]

Curious what you all think. I left last week thinking Steven's Point won't be as bad as a lot of people are predicting and then seeing them go on the road and only lose by 3 to Wabash furthers my thinking.

Unless you watched one or both of those games it is hard to gauge, but once your respectful teams play them, I'd love to hear your thoughts.

[02 Warhawk]

Curious what you all think. I left last week thinking Steven's Point won't be as bad as a lot of people are predicting and then seeing them go on the road and only lose by 3 to Wabash furthers my thinking.

Unless you watched one or both of those games it is hard to gauge, but once your respectful teams play them, I'd love to hear your thoughts.

Probably will struggle against UWO, UWW, UWP and UWL. But might compete with the lower half of the WIAC. So most likely a sub .500 team overall. I think D3football only predicted UWSP to win one game this year.

Wabash hasn't really been a top 10 team the past couple of seasons like we're used to seeing. However, I was still kind of shocked they came within 3 points of them.