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bleedpurple

With winds at 25 MPH and gusting much higher, the Warhawks came out strong and put the game away before halftime against River Falls today. With 2:15 remaining in the half, the Hawks had a 31-0 lead and a yardage advantage of 278-22.  The rest of the day was moot, although the Hawks did get the chance to give some young guys some work in the second half. In spite of the ridiculous winds, Cole Wilber was 9-15 for 137 yards and 2 TD's. He also ran 4 times for 58 yards, including a 26 yard TD run. Alex Peete led the way on the ground, gaining 95 yards on 19 carries.  Defensively Jacob Erbs led the way with 7 tackles, 1.5 sacks, and 2.5 tackles for loss. Harry Henschler added 1.5 sacks as well.  Mark McGrath, Jacob Frey, and Bailey Breunig all had interceptions.

Awesome job Hawks!

emma17

Quote from: bleedpurple on October 20, 2018, 11:32:50 PM
With winds at 25 MPH and gusting much higher, the Warhawks came out strong and put the game away before halftime against River Falls today. With 2:15 remaining in the half, the Hawks had a 31-0 lead and a yardage advantage of 278-22.  The rest of the day was moot, although the Hawks did get the chance to give some young guys some work in the second half. In spite of the ridiculous winds, Cole Wilber was 9-15 for 137 yards and 2 TD's. He also ran 4 times for 58 yards, including a 26 yard TD run. Alex Peete led the way on the ground, gaining 95 yards on 19 carries.  Defensively Jacob Erbs led the way with 7 tackles, 1.5 sacks, and 2.5 tackles for loss. Harry Henschler added 1.5 sacks as well.  Mark McGrath, Jacob Frey, and Bailey Breunig all had interceptions.

Awesome job Hawks!

Right on- great team win for UWW. Cole sure has added the threat of running, he's a bit faster than I thought.
He would have been 10-15 with his perfect throw on a slant- but I think the refs may have wanted to move the game along so they gave the UWRF DB a free pass.
Everybody is playing well.

badgerwarhawk

Quote from: emma17 on October 21, 2018, 12:53:36 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on October 20, 2018, 11:32:50 PM
With winds at 25 MPH and gusting much higher, the Warhawks came out strong and put the game away before halftime against River Falls today. With 2:15 remaining in the half, the Hawks had a 31-0 lead and a yardage advantage of 278-22.  The rest of the day was moot, although the Hawks did get the chance to give some young guys some work in the second half. In spite of the ridiculous winds, Cole Wilber was 9-15 for 137 yards and 2 TD's. He also ran 4 times for 58 yards, including a 26 yard TD run. Alex Peete led the way on the ground, gaining 95 yards on 19 carries.  Defensively Jacob Erbs led the way with 7 tackles, 1.5 sacks, and 2.5 tackles for loss. Harry Henschler added 1.5 sacks as well.  Mark McGrath, Jacob Frey, and Bailey Breunig all had interceptions.

Awesome job Hawks!

Right on- great team win for UWW. Cole sure has added the threat of running, he's a bit faster than I thought.
He would have been 10-15 with his perfect throw on a slant- but I think the refs may have wanted to move the game along so they gave the UWRF DB a free pass.
Everybody is playing well.


Prior to the game the referee told me that he liked to work fast and he wasn't kidding.  Sometimes he signaled to start the clock within a second or so of the side judge's signal to stop it.  He worked really fast.
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emma17

I see with under 10 minutes to go in the game, UWL was trailing UWO 17-13. The final was 24-13 for a pretty competitive game.
I'm inclined to think UWL is progressing this season. They have three losses- to D2 Dickenson State (6-2), UWW and UWO.
UWP lost to UWEC 40-16. UWP had 4 interceptions and 3 fumbles.
UWL gets UWP at home next Saturday.

bleedpurple

Quote from: emma17 on October 21, 2018, 06:51:44 PM
I see with under 10 minutes to go in the game, UWL was trailing UWO 17-13. The final was 24-13 for a pretty competitive game.
I'm inclined to think UWL is progressing this season. They have three losses- to D2 Dickenson State (6-2), UWW and UWO.
UWP lost to UWEC 40-16. UWP had 4 interceptions and 3 fumbles.
UWL gets UWP at home next Saturday.

Not sure so about the UW-L progression. They still can't run the ball. UW-0 outgained them by 120 yards. Competitive? Yes. Sign of significant progress? I'm not so sure.  Dickenson State is NAIA, not D-II. And one of their losses is to Waldorf. We should remember them....

BoBo

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Quote from: emma17 on October 21, 2018, 12:53:36 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on October 20, 2018, 11:32:50 PM
With winds at 25 MPH and gusting much higher, the Warhawks came out strong and put the game away before halftime against River Falls today. With 2:15 remaining in the half, the Hawks had a 31-0 lead and a yardage advantage of 278-22.  The rest of the day was moot, although the Hawks did get the chance to give some young guys some work in the second half. In spite of the ridiculous winds, Cole Wilber was 9-15 for 137 yards and 2 TD's. He also ran 4 times for 58 yards, including a 26 yard TD run. Alex Peete led the way on the ground, gaining 95 yards on 19 carries.  Defensively Jacob Erbs led the way with 7 tackles, 1.5 sacks, and 2.5 tackles for loss. Harry Henschler added 1.5 sacks as well.  Mark McGrath, Jacob Frey, and Bailey Breunig all had interceptions.

Awesome job Hawks!

Right on- great team win for UWW. Cole sure has added the threat of running, he's a bit faster than I thought.
He would have been 10-15 with his perfect throw on a slant- but I think the refs may have wanted to move the game along so they gave the UWRF DB a free pass.
Everybody is playing well.

That was one of the worst non-calls of defensive pass interference in this era where if a DB so much as breathes on a receiver or looks at him funny, it's called pass interference. There's trying to keep the game moving and there's total dereliction of duty. It was the latter; lack of any enforcement of plays like that could get players injuried. Another one, I guess he's called the side judge, the one on the Warhawks bench side of the field, was already running towards the locker rooms before the last play of the game was snapped. I wondered at the time if he had to get to the head or just needed to beat the crowd out of the Perk or something. Not exactly a professional thing to do.     

I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

UWO Titan 78

I wasn't able to watch the Titans/LAX game because my son had a basketball tournament. A friend told me that Todarello got hurt. That will not help the offense. Have I mentioned their lack of playmakers?  ;D

WW

Quote from: hazzben on October 20, 2018, 06:56:48 PM
Quote from: WW on October 18, 2018, 10:14:41 AM


D2 is a step up compared to NAIA, no question.

I've had humorous convo's with NAIA guys who don't know that I know a fairly decent amount about small college ball (Dad, uncle, and cousins were NAIA All America players and won and coached on several national title teams. Brother and I had D2 and NAIA offers, but opted for D3 at Bethel). Said NAIA guy says, "I played D2 football." I ask where, they say [Insert NAIA school]. And I say, oh, NAIA, like D3! Usually makes them pretty mad  ;D

Typically D2 has more to offer. Rarely a full scholarship, but they will offer that from time to time to a player. There's also plenty of Adam Thielen type offers of $500 to say they have a scholarship. I've also seen NAIA schools break the bank for an athlete. Family members who've gotten full rides (e.g. $10k for football, $10k for track, $10k for academics). But that's unusual.

IMO, the top 25 NAIA and D3 schools match up very well. Both divisions tend to be very top heavy, with only 4-5 teams with a legit shot year in and year out. The Morningside and UWW matchups from a few years back were a perfect case in point of the relative similarities of the divisions.

I think the real difference is that the NAIA is the wild wild west when it comes to rules enforcement. A buddy in HS got an 'academic scholarship' from USF back in the day. He was a sub 2.0 student in HS. But he was 6'5" 270.  ;) My brother also got some interesting offers from NAIA schools. Athletic scholarship amounts that were above the legal limit for the GPAC to offer for a single sport. When the top NAIA programs see the opportunity to add a player who's out of NCAA eligibility or washed out academically at 3 NCAA schools, it's amazing the loop holes that are discovered.

For my money, D3 is a pretty great place to be. Top programs offer some exceptional football, and there's a great balance with the academics not just an afterthought.

Back to your regularly scheduled programing  :) 8-)

Good stuff, hazz, but I'm not sure it's lack of rule enforcement as much as it's lack of rules in the NAIA. They're not required to give out skollies, unlike NCAA D1s and D2s which must issue their full allotment, although they do have "limits" per sport. But for the most part schools can do whatever they want in how they award grants and skollies per athletics. I'm sure that's part of the appeal, plus I'll bet there's lower overhead in being NAIA vs D3.

I also think NAIA doesn't give kids athletic skollies like they used to. It costs a school very roughly $20k/yr to feed, house and educate a kid (before state subsidies, if you get those). What's the ROI on taking a financial hit on a kid that's gonna make an NAIA football team better?

I remember when the WIAC schools were NAIA. I don't recall them ever issuing athletic scholarships though. Maybe that's why they jumped.

I'll give D3 football an edge over NAIA football. Some may think that 2-5 UWSP's 51-28 thrashing of 3-6 Dakota State is Douglas-beats-Tyson, Hickory-beats-Milan type stuff. I do not. I was instead surprised and embarrassed for the WIAC that UWL got beat by Dickinson State. UWL "progression?" Not feeling it.


jamtod

Will UW-Platteville win another game this year?

Stout, LaCrosse, and Whitewater.

WW

Quote from: jamtoTommie on October 22, 2018, 10:45:45 AM
Will UW-Platteville win another game this year?

Stout, LaCrosse, and Whitewater.

Seven turnovers by the Pioneers, plus a blocked punt-return TD. That was a tough day to play their game in that wind. I think they win 2 of the next 3.

emma17

Quote from: bleedpurple on October 21, 2018, 07:10:32 PM
Quote from: emma17 on October 21, 2018, 06:51:44 PM
I see with under 10 minutes to go in the game, UWL was trailing UWO 17-13. The final was 24-13 for a pretty competitive game.
I'm inclined to think UWL is progressing this season. They have three losses- to D2 Dickenson State (6-2), UWW and UWO.
UWP lost to UWEC 40-16. UWP had 4 interceptions and 3 fumbles.
UWL gets UWP at home next Saturday.

Not sure so about the UW-L progression. They still can't run the ball. UW-0 outgained them by 120 yards. Competitive? Yes. Sign of significant progress? I'm not so sure.  Dickenson State is NAIA, not D-II. And one of their losses is to Waldorf. We should remember them....

My bad on the D2.
I don't expect I'll ever get you to say a kind word about UWL. Although they were within 4 points with 7 minutes left in the game, and even though you picked UWO to beat them 31-10, you still can't find it in you. Rather, "they can't run the ball". You're right, they only averaged 2 yards per carry, while UWW averaged 3 yards per carry.   
I didn't say they were making "significant" progress, I simply said I'm inclined to think they are progressing.
Given all the talent they lost from last year's squad, to be 4-3 with a win over IWU and two of their three losses coming to top 10 D3 teams, yeah, I'm going to stick with they are progressing.

emma17

Interesting and Funny:
From a Buffalo News article prior to Saturday's UB-Toledo football game:

QuoteFamiliar face, unfamiliar team: Toledo is the only MAC team UB coach Lance Leipold has yet to face in his four years at the helm. He is familiar with Toledo's coach, though, as the pair matched up against each other in the Division III championship game. Toledo coach Jason Candle was the offensive coordinator at Mount Union when the Purple Eagles met Leipold's Wisconsin-Whitewater Warhawks in the 2007 and 2008 title games.

warhawkguard

Wow. Coach LL has a LEGIT chance to see 11 wins this year. A couple tough games coming up but none have their record at all. That QB he has is ridiculous.

Gotta keep an eye on them.
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wally_wabash

Quote from: emma17 on October 22, 2018, 11:18:02 AM
Interesting and Funny:
From a Buffalo News article prior to Saturday's UB-Toledo football game:

QuoteFamiliar face, unfamiliar team: Toledo is the only MAC team UB coach Lance Leipold has yet to face in his four years at the helm. He is familiar with Toledo's coach, though, as the pair matched up against each other in the Division III championship game. Toledo coach Jason Candle was the offensive coordinator at Mount Union when the Purple Eagles met Leipold's Wisconsin-Whitewater Warhawks in the 2007 and 2008 title games.

I hear the Purple Eagles are tough again this year. 
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emma17

Quote from: wally_wabash on October 22, 2018, 01:45:44 PM
Quote from: emma17 on October 22, 2018, 11:18:02 AM
Interesting and Funny:
From a Buffalo News article prior to Saturday's UB-Toledo football game:

QuoteFamiliar face, unfamiliar team: Toledo is the only MAC team UB coach Lance Leipold has yet to face in his four years at the helm. He is familiar with Toledo's coach, though, as the pair matched up against each other in the Division III championship game. Toledo coach Jason Candle was the offensive coordinator at Mount Union when the Purple Eagles met Leipold's Wisconsin-Whitewater Warhawks in the 2007 and 2008 title games.

I hear the Purple Eagles are tough again this year.

They'd have to be. Only the Mt Union Boys Named Sue would be less intimidating.