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Bofadeeznuts

Great takes on my UWW questions everyone. Thanks.
Next question: noticed a few teams have off this week. A remember a couple years ago I read my Titans had to scramble before the season started to get a 3rd nonconference game to be eligible for postseason. Is there a certain amount of games that need to be scheduled to be eligible for postseason?

BoBo

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2019, 01:23:13 PM
45, 43 and two 37's are no gimmes at our level and I would have to think not at their level either.

Plus, with 24 scholarships to divide up among that many kids, how much of a scholarship is a kicker getting, anyway?

The SXU kicker made a 48 yarder to open the scoring on Saturday; at least he showed he was capable early in the game.
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Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 25, 2019, 02:40:00 PM
With UWW's shift in their offensive style, other team's defenses aren't getting worn down like they used to.

This statement might be a bit misleading. You state it as a fact, but I doubt you know how tired defenses are at the end of UW-W games then or now.

The bottom line is that so far in 2019 UW-W is finishing games EXTREMELY well:

*  They have outscored their opponents 45-7 in the second half and 28-0 in the fourth quarter.

*The  final Warhawk possessions of each game has gone like this:

Dubuque:
Final possession was a 62 yard TD drive to give UW-W a 42-7 lead with just over a minute left in the game.

Concordia-Moorhead:
With 11:52 left in the game UW-W led by three. They proceeded to go 80 yards in 14 plays draining  6:53 off the clock to give UW-W a 20-10 lead with 4:50 left on the clock. After holding the Cobbers to 15 yards on their next possession, the Hawks got the ball back with 3:12 left in the game and drained the clock.

St. Xavier
The Hawks got the ball with 8:27 and leading by one. They didn't score, but they successfully flipped the field driving from their own 20 to the St. X 31. In the process, taking 4:03 off the clock. After four St. X plays gained nothing.  UW-W took over at the Cougar 31. They took all but 25 seconds off the clock and put the game away with a 19 TD from Meylor to Kumerow.

Maybe you are right and the defenses weren't tired. But then, UW-W's offense sure came up big when they needed to.

I know this whole discussion was set off by the question as to "what is wrong" with Alex Peete. To answer that, I will just use four words: "He's fine. Stay tuned".

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Bofadeeznuts on September 25, 2019, 08:17:09 PM
Great takes on my UWW questions everyone. Thanks.
Next question: noticed a few teams have off this week. A remember a couple years ago I read my Titans had to scramble before the season started to get a 3rd nonconference game to be eligible for postseason. Is there a certain amount of games that need to be scheduled to be eligible for postseason?

Not exactly, but obviously it's better to have a full ten countable games, or at least nine.
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badgerwarhawk

Quote from: BoBo on September 25, 2019, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2019, 01:23:13 PM
45, 43 and two 37's are no gimmes at our level and I would have to think not at their level either.

Plus, with 24 scholarships to divide up among that many kids, how much of a scholarship is a kicker getting, anyway?

The SXU kicker made a 48 yarder to open the scoring on Saturday; at least he showed he was capable early in the game.

I saw him drill a 45 yard kick into the wind while warming up during half time.  With the exception of his final attempt which was badly miss hit the others all had the distance necessary they were just pulled left. 
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'95 Blugold

Quote from: Brad on September 25, 2019, 03:11:02 PM
Quote from: WW on September 25, 2019, 01:23:45 PM
Quote from: Brad on September 25, 2019, 01:01:42 PM
No more "grasping for straws" here. Time to get to work on this weeks plays:

The game that I will attend: UWEC vs UW St Thomas- I mean University of St. Thomas.
This will not be a game. I want to get up and check out another WIAC vs MIAC game. From what I have heard and read, this UWEC struggles to move the football. They have played multiple QB's. St Thomas might win this one by 50. The only saving grace is that UWEC does play good defense. I will be interested to see what this new UWEC offense looks like under the new staff. 52-7

UW Stout at Cal Lutheran- I have no clue why Stout is not better. Bring back a QB who started as a Freshman, get McDonald back and the Levi Hammer kid is a stud. Not sure where their stud RB that was a junior last year is. I think his number was 1 or 5. Stout taking a big trip to Cali needs a win. I just do not think they get it.  Cal L win 28-27

UWP at Lakeland- This will be Ugly from the start. UWP wins in a run away 56-14. UWP is my sleeper team I will go on record saying it again.

Josiah Johnson should have earned the UWEC QB gig by now. He's just been better than Malueg, and if not for some questionable clock management at the end of the St Norbert game, he could be taking a 2-0 team to StT. I might tune this one in on the computer. Won't pick em to win but I think EC competes here.

Stout is still pretty good, even at 0-2. Toe-to-toe with St Johns, and Gustavus Adolphus just isn't gonna get the credit they deserve in that league. Still expect Stout to be better than .500 in WIAC play. I think they win out west.

I got family up in the MSP area. Johnson was at UWRF last year I believe. How often do you see a kid go from WIAC to WIAC school and start?? Very interesting. I would be curious what happened at UWRF. He is not on UWRF roster from last year, but he also is not on UWEC roster from last year. I can do some research on this.

Hopefully with the bye week, they've turned over the reigns completely to Johnson. 5 INTs in 2 games by Malueg is not going to cut it. The offense has enough issues without throwing the ball to the other team multiple times a game.

Still debating on whether I'm going to make the trip up for the game or stream it. Probably should head up as I'm guessing this series will be coming to an end. Don't think it will be that close of a game. Guessing something like 43-10 Tommies as the Tommies will probably run a trick extra point out of the FG formation and score two on about the 4th TD to go up 29-0 and then follow it up with an onside kick.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 25, 2019, 11:04:43 PM
Quote from: BoBo on September 25, 2019, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2019, 01:23:13 PM
45, 43 and two 37's are no gimmes at our level and I would have to think not at their level either.

Plus, with 24 scholarships to divide up among that many kids, how much of a scholarship is a kicker getting, anyway?

The SXU kicker made a 48 yarder to open the scoring on Saturday; at least he showed he was capable early in the game.

I saw him drill a 45 yard kick into the wind while warming up during half time.  With the exception of his final attempt which was badly miss hit the others all had the distance necessary they were just pulled left.

Having the distance is only part of the challenge, though, to be sure.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

02 Warhawk

Quote from: bleedpurple on September 25, 2019, 09:59:58 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 25, 2019, 02:40:00 PM
With UWW's shift in their offensive style, other team's defenses aren't getting worn down like they used to.

This statement might be a bit misleading. You state it as a fact, but I doubt you know how tired defenses are at the end of UW-W games then or now.

The bottom line is that so far in 2019 UW-W is finishing games EXTREMELY well:

*  They have outscored their opponents 45-7 in the second half and 28-0 in the fourth quarter.

*The  final Warhawk possessions of each game has gone like this:

Dubuque:
Final possession was a 62 yard TD drive to give UW-W a 42-7 lead with just over a minute left in the game.

Concordia-Moorhead:
With 11:52 left in the game UW-W led by three. They proceeded to go 80 yards in 14 plays draining  6:53 off the clock to give UW-W a 20-10 lead with 4:50 left on the clock. After holding the Cobbers to 15 yards on their next possession, the Hawks got the ball back with 3:12 left in the game and drained the clock.

St. Xavier
The Hawks got the ball with 8:27 and leading by one. They didn't score, but they successfully flipped the field driving from their own 20 to the St. X 31. In the process, taking 4:03 off the clock. After four St. X plays gained nothing.  UW-W took over at the Cougar 31. They took all but 25 seconds off the clock and put the game away with a 19 TD from Meylor to Kumerow.

Maybe you are right and the defenses weren't tired. But then, UW-W's offense sure came up big when they needed to.

I know this whole discussion was set off by the question as to "what is wrong" with Alex Peete. To answer that, I will just use four words: "He's fine. Stay tuned".

Understood. I was just referring to the running game more than anything. From 2005-2015 the Hawks would gash teams on the ground. this was especially true in the second half of games, as they would consistently gain large chunks of yards running the ball to close games out. However, the past 2-3 years, those types of big runs are few and far between it seems like.

I don't have the eye for the game like you guys do, so I'm not sure if that's because the lack of skill at RB? Lack on committing to the run by the coaches? Or is offensive line not doing their job? Or maybe a combination of all three.

It's not really a bad thing I guess, as long as the passing game steps up. Just an observation on the difference between LL's era to KB's era.

hazzben

Quote from: BoBo on September 25, 2019, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2019, 01:23:13 PM
45, 43 and two 37's are no gimmes at our level and I would have to think not at their level either.

Plus, with 24 scholarships to divide up among that many kids, how much of a scholarship is a kicker getting, anyway?

The SXU kicker made a 48 yarder to open the scoring on Saturday; at least he showed he was capable early in the game.

And for a coach, seeing a  kid nail a FG that long gives you confidence to keep going to the well. 48 yds is a heck of a kick at this level.

badgerwarhawk

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2019, 11:19:03 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on September 25, 2019, 11:04:43 PM
Quote from: BoBo on September 25, 2019, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 25, 2019, 01:23:13 PM
45, 43 and two 37's are no gimmes at our level and I would have to think not at their level either.

Plus, with 24 scholarships to divide up among that many kids, how much of a scholarship is a kicker getting, anyway?

The SXU kicker made a 48 yarder to open the scoring on Saturday; at least he showed he was capable early in the game.

I saw him drill a 45 yard kick into the wind while warming up during half time.  With the exception of his final attempt which was badly miss hit the others all had the distance necessary they were just pulled left.

Having the distance is only part of the challenge, though, to be sure.

Exactly, I agree completely.  All I'm saying is that he had the leg.
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emma17

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 26, 2019, 08:35:12 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on September 25, 2019, 09:59:58 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 25, 2019, 02:40:00 PM
With UWW's shift in their offensive style, other team's defenses aren't getting worn down like they used to.

This statement might be a bit misleading. You state it as a fact, but I doubt you know how tired defenses are at the end of UW-W games then or now.

The bottom line is that so far in 2019 UW-W is finishing games EXTREMELY well:

*  They have outscored their opponents 45-7 in the second half and 28-0 in the fourth quarter.

*The  final Warhawk possessions of each game has gone like this:

Dubuque:
Final possession was a 62 yard TD drive to give UW-W a 42-7 lead with just over a minute left in the game.

Concordia-Moorhead:
With 11:52 left in the game UW-W led by three. They proceeded to go 80 yards in 14 plays draining  6:53 off the clock to give UW-W a 20-10 lead with 4:50 left on the clock. After holding the Cobbers to 15 yards on their next possession, the Hawks got the ball back with 3:12 left in the game and drained the clock.

St. Xavier
The Hawks got the ball with 8:27 and leading by one. They didn't score, but they successfully flipped the field driving from their own 20 to the St. X 31. In the process, taking 4:03 off the clock. After four St. X plays gained nothing.  UW-W took over at the Cougar 31. They took all but 25 seconds off the clock and put the game away with a 19 TD from Meylor to Kumerow.

Maybe you are right and the defenses weren't tired. But then, UW-W's offense sure came up big when they needed to.

I know this whole discussion was set off by the question as to "what is wrong" with Alex Peete. To answer that, I will just use four words: "He's fine. Stay tuned".

Understood. I was just referring to the running game more than anything. From 2005-2015 the Hawks would gash teams on the ground. this was especially true in the second half of games, as they would consistently gain large chunks of yards running the ball to close games out. However, the past 2-3 years, those types of big runs are few and far between it seems like.

I don't have the eye for the game like you guys do, so I'm not sure if that's because the lack of skill at RB? Lack on committing to the run by the coaches? Or is offensive line not doing their job? Or maybe a combination of all three.

It's not really a bad thing I guess, as long as the passing game steps up. Just an observation on the difference between LL's era to KB's era.

There's a whole bunch of things that go into it and I'm sure we could go on for pages. I'll heed Bleed's advice and wait to see what Jennings has in store.

One point on the O line. I've rewatched the game a couple times focusing on line play. UWW lost a large chunk of yards from tackles behind the line of scrimmage and sacks. The positive I saw in the video is it wasn't really an issue of UWW guys getting beat/unable to handle their guy. Most losses I saw were stunt related, really goofy stuff like a tackle blocking out when there was a d linemen or lb coming inside. Some of that stuff is O line communication at the line of scrimmage, some of it could be the QB not getting out of a play, whether it be audible to a pass or to a run. One positive I do see that reflects well on the O line is their success on straight ahead runs. When they don't have to deal w stunts at tackle, they can really drive.  Of course, a certain play caller likes his share of wildcat and outside runs on short yardage, and that also impacts the O line.

Some of it is Some of it is RB's not hitting the


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emma17

Quote from: bleedpurple on September 27, 2019, 01:23:16 PM
Quote from: houdini on September 26, 2019, 07:39:02 PM
Did the Whitewater cannon guy move  to Maine?
https://thespun.com/college-football/video-surfaces-of-college-football-referee-getting-shot-by-cannon

An alumnus brought his own cannon to the game? Yikes!

I would never do that, unless UWW promoted a bring your canon to the game event.
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