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formerd3db

Quote from: emma17 on October 04, 2019, 03:40:22 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on October 04, 2019, 01:01:46 AM
Quote from: emma17 on October 03, 2019, 11:32:28 PM
Quote from: formerd3db on October 03, 2019, 04:55:10 PM
Quote from: WW on October 03, 2019, 04:13:58 PM
I haven't done the math either but sure seems to me that the transfer portal works more often north to south, rather than the other way around, and a place like Buffalo would more often than not be the beneficiary. Look at Whitewater. The first three random names that came to my mind (Kumerow, Oles, Meylor) all came from higher levels of play (D2 St. Cloud St, D1 Butler, D2 Lindenwood).

I agree with you. It would appear that such is more common.



I'm not sure what's more common, I'm focused on the impact to UB and how it may play a role w LL. The examples of Kumerow, Meylor and Oles is entirely different than what happened at Buffalo. None of those three were starters at their former schools, as such, their transfer to UWW didn't create an immediate and unexpected talent loss in starting positions. In UB's case, they lost three big time starters, unexpectedly. Their all-conference QB, all-conference Tight End and all-conference Wide receiver, plus another wide receiver with good experience. At the end of last season UB was incredibly well positioned to continue the momentum into 2019. Now, they are starting a redshirt freshman QB (who will be very good imo) and an extremely inexperienced receiver corp.
UB's loss of players is significantly more damaging than the transfers of Kumerow, Meylor and Oles.

I am aware of what you are focusing on.  I didn't say the examples of the three you said was the same as what happened at Buffalo.  Of course, the three starters who left may be a big part among the contributing factors of Buffalo having a tough time this year.  However, all I was saying (and I could have been clearer in relating it) was that transfers, one way or another, are common, and, from what I have seen, transfers to another program (often DIII) by players who were at higher divisions who were not starters and/or not getting the playing time like they thought they should be, seems to be more common, at least from what I have seen.

If I had to bet one or the other, I'd go with your thinking on what's more common with transfers in general.

It seems the majority of headlines regarding transfers focused on big name players that weren't starting at big time schools (Hurts, Bryant, Fields, etc.). In these cases, the portal doesn't seem so bad (except for the kid that committed to a school based on likelihood of an opportunity to start - only to find out an unexpected transfer is coming in). I don't know that there's been much focus on starters transferring to another school (I don't pay as close attention as I should though). This is the area I'd think mid-level schools are most exposed- losing their starters.

I wonder, if California's approach to paying athletes for their likeness spreads across the country, will the transfer portal become more of a marketing conduit, where a players choice focuses both on the sport as well as the size/viewership of the commercial market? Is it possible CA will lose athletes to the midwest simply because more people are able to watch games on central time?   
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Good question, for sure.  And that also might lead to us, in turn, in trying to speculate on what the NCAA might do in response to that if the California approach does spread out across the nation.  Then again, it is difficult (and sometimes baffling) as to what the NCAA does at times.
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice

retagent

Quote from: BoBo on October 04, 2019, 11:36:58 AM
Quote from: WW on October 03, 2019, 11:52:28 AM
Wisconsin also gets some of its best talent from New Jersey. Johnathan Taylor is from Salem, NJ. Heck, Ron Dayne is from New Jersey.

The problem with Rutgers is perceptional. It's not viewed as an aspirational place, academically or athletically, by the locals. They see it as a large commuter school. Almost every other Big 10 school is a destination, a goal, a dream. Nobody in Newark, Jersey City, Hoboken, Plainfield, Paterson, Edison et al dreams about going to Rutgers.

I just don't think a football coach, even a good one, is ever gonna fix that.

The problem LL will face, however, is Buffalo's gonna be down this year, and that's gonna ice a lot of the LL-to-anywhere talk, IMO.

JT23 was committed to Rutgers - the only big time school recruiting him - until the Badgers swooped at the 11th hours and saved him from sure misery & unproductiveness.

Talk about the ultimate Win - Win. (Well for UW and JT. Not Rutgers :-X)

WW

Looks like every WIAC game today will be played in rain, heavy in some places

bleedpurple

Quote from: WW on October 05, 2019, 09:19:26 AM
Looks like every WIAC game today will be played in rain, heavy in some places

Gotta love football in Wisconsin. Weather providing a great test for resiliency, ball security, and offensive balance! I love it!  Only bummer is that it could hold down what would have surely been an enormous crowd at the Perk. Family Day is always an awesome atmosphere. Even if the rain could hold off for a half, it would be great.

'95 Blugold

Quote from: WW on October 05, 2019, 09:19:26 AM
Looks like every WIAC game today will be played in rain, heavy in some places

I was just coming in to ask that. Got a steady rain here in Rochester and was wondering if weather would be a factor East of the river. Maybe, just maybe it can be an equalizer for the Blugolds against Whitewater.

bleedpurple

Do they need one? They just beat the sixth ranked team in the country!

jamtod

Quote from: bleedpurple on October 05, 2019, 12:58:48 PM
Do they need one? They just beat the sixth ranked team in the country!
Don't you know that 3 > 6 though?

'95 Blugold

Quote from: bleedpurple on October 05, 2019, 12:58:48 PM
Do they need one? They just beat the sixth ranked team in the country!

:D Believe me they need all the help they can get.

BoBo

Quote from: bleedpurple on October 05, 2019, 09:26:31 AM
Quote from: WW on October 05, 2019, 09:19:26 AM
Looks like every WIAC game today will be played in rain, heavy in some places

Gotta love football in Wisconsin. Weather providing a great test for resiliency, ball security, and offensive balance! I love it!  Only bummer is that it could hold down what would have surely been an enormous crowd at the Perk. Family Day is always an awesome atmosphere. Even if the rain could hold off for a half, it would be great.

No luck, looks like the final 40 minutes of this game will be played in front of no one, as the officials have suspended play due to weather and everyone is leaving the stadium.
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."


palum


bleedpurple

Quote from: palum on October 06, 2019, 08:09:40 AM
Quote from: WW on October 05, 2019, 09:34:10 PM
Platty wins the day

Platteville won the game Mother Nature won the day ;D

Amen. I don't know about the rest of the sites, but the weather in Whitewater was nothing less than awful! As play was about to resume after play had been suspended, I looked up and there were TWO people in the home stands.  TWO! I should have taken a picture!

WW

Quote from: bleedpurple on October 06, 2019, 08:50:34 AM
Quote from: palum on October 06, 2019, 08:09:40 AM
Quote from: WW on October 05, 2019, 09:34:10 PM
Platty wins the day

Platteville won the game Mother Nature won the day ;D

Amen. I don't know about the rest of the sites, but the weather in Whitewater was nothing less than awful! As play was about to resume after play had been suspended, I looked up and there were TWO people in the home stands.  TWO! I should have taken a picture!

Stevens Point was off-and-on rain, end-zone-to-end-zone wind, but didn't seem to discourage either team's passing plans. Urmanski threw some nice balls (Herro is out w/kneecap injury, return is unclear). Every time I see RF lately I wonder why they don't go to Herink more, especially against 5-10 DBs. Four picks, but more impressive to me were 10 tackles, 3 TFLs, 2 sacks for Corvino... those are crazy numbers for an inside DT. Maybe he had a mismatch upfront... or maybe he's really good. Keep an eye on that guy.

BoBo

Quote from: bleedpurple on October 06, 2019, 08:50:34 AM
Quote from: palum on October 06, 2019, 08:09:40 AM
Quote from: WW on October 05, 2019, 09:34:10 PM
Platty wins the day

Platteville won the game Mother Nature won the day ;D

Amen. I don't know about the rest of the sites, but the weather in Whitewater was nothing less than awful! As play was about to resume after play had been suspended, I looked up and there were TWO people in the home stands.  TWO! I should have taken a picture!

Impressive; only two more than I predicted!!
I'VE REACHED THAT AGE
WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

formerd3db

Another huge crowd at WW yesterday, 9822. That is impressive!
"When the Great Scorer comes To mark against your name, He'll write not 'won' or 'lost', But how you played the game." - Grantland Rice