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umhb2001

Welcome back, UWW. Should be another fun one. Looks like UMHB will have to play their best game of the year.

Defensively, I believe we can stop anyone. Ball hawks, linebackers, and DLine are primed for another challenge.

Offensively, we have not found a run game all season. Hard to put a finger on it. Our QB, Jase Hammack, has been less than 100% all season. His mobility is not great. We have playmakers at WR, but it's going to take a great OLine, one we haven't really had, to make the plays.

It could be a 17-14 barn burner. Safe travels to all who make the trip.
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OzJohnnie

Massey has us getting stomped bigly. In fact, he's got the Johnnies as the only blowout and the only game without a chance to be competitive.  Too bad he sucks at math.
  

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02 Warhawk

Quote from: OzJohnnie on December 01, 2019, 04:16:17 PM
Massey has us getting stomped bigly. In fact, he's got the Johnnies as the only blowout and the only game without a chance to be competitive.  Too bad he sucks at math.

Not sure how this applies to the wiac board, but thanks?

jamtod

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 01, 2019, 05:05:46 PM
Quote from: OzJohnnie on December 01, 2019, 04:16:17 PM
Massey has us getting stomped bigly. In fact, he's got the Johnnies as the only blowout and the only game without a chance to be competitive.  Too bad he sucks at math.

Not sure how this applies to the wiac board, but thanks?

Oz is in Australia and went to St John's.

Everything is backwards there.

02 Warhawk

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Quote from: umhb2001 on December 01, 2019, 04:08:39 PM
Welcome back, UWW. Should be another fun one. Looks like UMHB will have to play their best game of the year.

Defensively, I believe we can stop anyone. Ball hawks, linebackers, and DLine are primed for another challenge.

Offensively, we have not found a run game all season. Hard to put a finger on it. Our QB, Jase Hammack, has been less than 100% all season. His mobility is not great. We have playmakers at WR, but it's going to take a great OLine, one we haven't really had, to make the plays.

It could be a 17-14 barn burner. Safe travels to all who make the trip.

UWW has been inconsistent all year on both sides of the ball. They've shown glimpses of being really good, but also have entire quarters of head-scratching football. Putting together a complete game of solid football has been a challenge, I think we're vulnerable on the pass defense. If a team that knows what they're doing, when dropping back to pass, we will have issues. Run defense has been great, so far no back has had much success there. On offense our QB play has been up and down throughout the year. We were expected to have this juggernaut of an offense based on what we returned from last year, but greatness on that side of the ball has been not as frequent as expected. Our running backs are ballers and rotate three guys all game long. When they have room to run our offense is at its best.

OzJohnnie

Quote from: jamtod on December 01, 2019, 05:16:10 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 01, 2019, 05:05:46 PM
Quote from: OzJohnnie on December 01, 2019, 04:16:17 PM
Massey has us getting stomped bigly. In fact, he's got the Johnnies as the only blowout and the only game without a chance to be competitive.  Too bad he sucks at math.

Not sure how this applies to the wiac board, but thanks?

Oz is in Australia and went to St John's.

Everything is backwards there.

Exactly.
  

emma17

These are the games where I'm really curious to see what the coaching staffs perhaps didn't want to show in previous games, and what they wanted to show. We saw Wiz throw the ball yesterday (I believe his first attempt all season). We all knew he was a HS QB, so the pass from wildcat or other position has been anticipated. UWW chose to show it yesterday, I'm sure w intention.
We've seen heavy rotation at skilled positions, will they narrow it down Saturday?
The tight ends were busy yesterday, again giving UMHB things to think about.

badgerwarhawk

Quote from: emma17 on December 01, 2019, 07:21:49 PM
These are the games where I’m really curious to see what the coaching staffs perhaps didn’t want to show in previous games, and what they wanted to show. We saw Wiz throw the ball yesterday (I believe his first attempt all season). We all knew he was a HS QB, so the pass from wildcat or other position has been anticipated. UWW chose to show it yesterday, I’m sure w intention.
We’ve seen heavy rotation at skilled positions, will they narrow it down Saturday?
The tight ends were busy yesterday, again giving UMHB things to think about.



Following on your thoughts one play I thought we showed with intention was the fake punt.  Now that we shown UMHB that we may do that they'll have to respect that possibility which may slow the punt rush a tad.  We've had a few punts blocked in our final  games and we can't have something like that happening this week. 
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BoBo

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 01, 2019, 05:17:34 PM
I think we're vulnerable on the pass defense. If a team that knows what they're doing, when dropping back to pass, we will have issues. Run defense has been great, so far no back has had much success there. On offense our QB play has been up and down throughout the year. We were expected to have this juggernaut of an offense based on what we returned from last year, but greatness on that side of the ball has been not as frequent as expected. Our running backs are ballers and rotate three guys all game long. When they have room to run our offense is at its best.

I agree UWW is most vulnerable on pass defense. I do disagree with 02 180° on this part of his opinion - the opponent doesn't need to know what they are doing in their passing game to beat our defense consistently. This isn't the Warhawks of old. The Warhawks defense of 2019 employs the old school "prevent defense" system (Google it if you've never heard of it) for 60 minutes. Unfortunately, they are not very good at it because the opponent does get behind them at an alarming rate. Wartburg had receivers as wide open as they could ever want on nearly every play on Saturday. Luckily, we had a freshman named Niko Lemke on the d-line acting like a hungry attack dog chasing after a Knight QB made of delicious meats all game long. He only made 1 tackle, but he forced Dodd to run for his life & probably contributed to a few of the 4 INT's he threw (his rainbow trajectory also was a factor). A juggernaut offense is a part of 02's imagination, I'm afraid. Juggernaut offense's begin with an elite talent at the QB position. We don't have that. And didn't have that coming into the season. Everyone else on the offensive side of the ball has been no better that average at best. We've yet to play a complete 60 minute game without multiple breakdowns. I'm not sure we are capable of it either. Against Wartburg, the first half, taking advantage of multiple Warburg errors, we played well, second half was a stinker - par for the course this year. Wartburg out played us and should have won the game. We are lucky to be advancing. I believe with only an average UMHB effort, our run ends meekly this week.
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Quote from: BoBo on December 01, 2019, 10:14:00 PM

Wartburg out played us and should have won the game. We are lucky to be advancing.

Except for the fact UW-W was ahead 17-0 after one quarter and 31-7 at halftime.


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02 Warhawk

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Quote from: BoBo on December 01, 2019, 10:14:00 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 01, 2019, 05:17:34 PM
I think we're vulnerable on the pass defense. If a team that knows what they're doing, when dropping back to pass, we will have issues. Run defense has been great, so far no back has had much success there. On offense our QB play has been up and down throughout the year. We were expected to have this juggernaut of an offense based on what we returned from last year, but greatness on that side of the ball has been not as frequent as expected. Our running backs are ballers and rotate three guys all game long. When they have room to run our offense is at its best.

I agree UWW is most vulnerable on pass defense. I do disagree with 02 180° on this part of his opinion - the opponent doesn't need to know what they are doing in their passing game to beat our defense consistently. This isn't the Warhawks of old. The Warhawks defense of 2019 employs the old school "prevent defense" system (Google it if you've never heard of it) for 60 minutes. Unfortunately, they are not very good at it because the opponent does get behind them at an alarming rate. Wartburg had receivers as wide open as they could ever want on nearly every play on Saturday. Luckily, we had a freshman named Niko Lemke on the d-line acting like a hungry attack dog chasing after a Knight QB made of delicious meats all game long. He only made 1 tackle, but he forced Dodd to run for his life & probably contributed to a few of the 4 INT's he threw (his rainbow trajectory also was a factor). A juggernaut offense is a part of 02's imagination, I'm afraid. Juggernaut offense's begin with an elite talent at the QB position. We don't have that. And didn't have that coming into the season. Everyone else on the offensive side of the ball has been no better that average at best. We've yet to play a complete 60 minute game without multiple breakdowns. I'm not sure we are capable of it either. Against Wartburg, the first half, taking advantage of multiple Warburg errors, we played well, second half was a stinker - par for the course this year. Wartburg out played us and should have won the game. We are lucky to be advancing. I believe with only an average UMHB effort, our run ends meekly this week.

UWW's defense is ranked 23rd in points per game out of 245 teams. That's statistically better than over 90% of teams in all of D3. They achieved this while playing in the toughest conference in the country and having the 9th strongest SOS. Their SOS is stronger than any other team left in the playoffs.

90% of the country could only dream that their defense was "not very good" like Whitewater's. But you're right that UWW isn't the same program as when Lance was here, but they still are a very good team. Sounds like your bench mark for being good is winning Stagg Bowls, which I don't agree with.

WW

I know y'all don't ask Meylor to do much... but he sure doesn't do much.

02 Warhawk

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Quote from: WW on December 02, 2019, 10:47:36 AM
I know y'all don't ask Meylor to do much... but he sure doesn't do much.

Hasn't played much this year either