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umhb2001

Quote from: emma17 on December 03, 2019, 05:58:18 PM
Quote from: USee on December 02, 2019, 02:53:30 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 02, 2019, 12:26:34 PM
I'd love to see some game reviews from guys like USee, WW, Bofa and Brad (where have you gone Brad?) for UWW at UMHB.


my 2c:

I admit I have not seen as much UWW on film this year as years past and less so UMHB. I've watched enough of each to have a feel what they are about. UWW doesn't seem to have the dominant game they have carried late into the playoffs in years past. Neither does UMHB. Both of these teams are flawed. So it's about matchups and strengths vs weaknesses.

I usually use NCAA statistics with a grain of salt, but when you have played in the #1 conference in the country, the stats hold a little more truth to who you are in my view. UWW is not ranked in the top 25 in almost any area. Where they are really good is disrupting an offense and causing turnovers. The Warhawks are 11th in the country in turnovers gained (6th in forced fumbles). They are only 31st in total defense and 23rd in scoring defense. They also can get after the QB, ranking 17th in sacks.

On offense the Warhawks are versatile (seemingly painfully at times) and have the ability to take advantage of the opponents weaknesses. The problem is UMHB seems to be one of the top 2-3 defenses in the country and it's because they are #1 in turnover margin. Total defense is #3 and Total offense is 57th but their turnover margin is #1.

That's the recipe for a UWW victory in my mind. UWW has been in trouble when they turn the ball over (which they do all too often for UWW fans). If they can go in to Belton and take care of the football, the UWW defense will have to get takeaways from a team that doesn't turn it over much. I think UWW wins if they win the turnover battle as they will get some opportunities for their offense and are good enough on D to keep the score down.

sidenote: UMHB is #4 in scoring offense and #57 in total offense. Probably a combination of their takeaway numbers and their SOS, which is 163rd in the country. That could also be a factor that inflates their takeaways, inferior competition. Through 2 rounds UMHB has created 9 takeaways against only 1 giveaway.

So it's about the takeaways. You're probably going to be proven correct.
Thinking about the offensive styles as it relates to takeaways, I wonder if UWW won't go the route of ultra conservative. UWW hasn't had a banner passing year, so the staff may see UMHB's speed in the secondary as reason to stay on the ground. I think UWW RB's fumbled twice last year and both those guys are back and I'm sure eager to perform.
I may be odd man out here, but I like UWW's pass defense v UMHB as I think their QB will be facing pressure. That combination may win UWW the takeaway battle.

UMHB's answer to Jase's struggle with mobility may be Tommy Bowden, freshman QB who is fast and has an electric arm. Of course, we also have Senior Luke Poorman healthy this year who is mobile and can throw as well. I'm pretty sure he is able as well. Playing for Mount and UMHB has given him a lot of experience and confidence in pressure situations.
Watch out for the wreckingCRU defense!!

bleedpurple

Tough news for the UW-La Crosse football program. Quarterback Evan Lewandowski is entering the transfer portal.  Too bad.

Pat Coleman

He's going to Division I? Division III doesn't use the transfer portal.
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Pat Coleman

Won't he be surprised! :)

Anyway, in Division III, transferring works differently. He can self-release.
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bleedpurple

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 04, 2019, 12:00:52 AM
Won't he be surprised! :)

Anyway, in Division III, transferring works differently. He can self-release.

I guess Twitter is his portal. I'm guessing it won't be long before he starts getting contacted. Dude can sling it.

WW

Quote from: bleedpurple on December 04, 2019, 12:10:05 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 04, 2019, 12:00:52 AM
Won't he be surprised! :)

Anyway, in Division III, transferring works differently. He can self-release.

I guess Twitter is his portal. I'm guessing it won't be long before he starts getting contacted. Dude can sling it.

Why do they always say, "that being said"?

bleedpurple

Quote from: WW on December 04, 2019, 08:08:05 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 04, 2019, 12:10:05 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 04, 2019, 12:00:52 AM
Won't he be surprised! :)

Anyway, in Division III, transferring works differently. He can self-release.

I guess Twitter is his portal. I'm guessing it won't be long before he starts getting contacted. Dude can sling it.

Why do they always say, "that being said"?

I think it's their way of easing into the topic the announcement is really about.  That being said, I really have no idea.

hazzben

Quote from: bleedpurple on December 04, 2019, 12:10:05 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 04, 2019, 12:00:52 AM
Won't he be surprised! :)

Anyway, in Division III, transferring works differently. He can self-release.

I guess Twitter is his portal. I'm guessing it won't be long before he starts getting contacted. Dude can sling it.

Maybe it's his way of signalling he's looking to transfer up a division or two??

DuffMan

I know a team that might be looking for a new QB next year.  ;D

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WW

Quote from: hazzben on December 04, 2019, 08:59:12 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on December 04, 2019, 12:10:05 AM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 04, 2019, 12:00:52 AM
Won't he be surprised! :)

Anyway, in Division III, transferring works differently. He can self-release.

I guess Twitter is his portal. I'm guessing it won't be long before he starts getting contacted. Dude can sling it.

Maybe it's his way of signalling he's looking to transfer up a division or two??

Interesting case. He's got the size and the arm, but guessing he didn't have the wheels/mobility to get D1 offers out of high school. There was some local chatter about him being sure to get "3 or 4 Big Ten offers" and I see there was some MAC interest but I don't see where there were any actual offers, even PWOs. Then it was about him being "under the radar". Ummm, no kid who starts for two years at a major suburban Chicago high school, gets a Tribune profile and makes a deep run into the state playoffs is "under the radar". Just some box he didn't check, but you're right, he can sling it. And I'm guessing D2s, at least, would make it worth his while.

Bleed, I would presume he was at least on your radar at some point, given that's right in Dubdub's recruiting wheelhouse, no?

WashedUpCard

Quote from: DuffMan on December 04, 2019, 09:22:07 AM
I know a team that might be looking for a new QB next year.  ;D

Me too.  And its 50 minutes south of his hometown.

WW

Quote from: umhb2001 on December 03, 2019, 07:30:28 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 03, 2019, 05:58:18 PM
Quote from: USee on December 02, 2019, 02:53:30 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 02, 2019, 12:26:34 PM
I'd love to see some game reviews from guys like USee, WW, Bofa and Brad (where have you gone Brad?) for UWW at UMHB.


my 2c:

I admit I have not seen as much UWW on film this year as years past and less so UMHB. I've watched enough of each to have a feel what they are about. UWW doesn't seem to have the dominant game they have carried late into the playoffs in years past. Neither does UMHB. Both of these teams are flawed. So it's about matchups and strengths vs weaknesses.

I usually use NCAA statistics with a grain of salt, but when you have played in the #1 conference in the country, the stats hold a little more truth to who you are in my view. UWW is not ranked in the top 25 in almost any area. Where they are really good is disrupting an offense and causing turnovers. The Warhawks are 11th in the country in turnovers gained (6th in forced fumbles). They are only 31st in total defense and 23rd in scoring defense. They also can get after the QB, ranking 17th in sacks.

On offense the Warhawks are versatile (seemingly painfully at times) and have the ability to take advantage of the opponents weaknesses. The problem is UMHB seems to be one of the top 2-3 defenses in the country and it's because they are #1 in turnover margin. Total defense is #3 and Total offense is 57th but their turnover margin is #1.

That's the recipe for a UWW victory in my mind. UWW has been in trouble when they turn the ball over (which they do all too often for UWW fans). If they can go in to Belton and take care of the football, the UWW defense will have to get takeaways from a team that doesn't turn it over much. I think UWW wins if they win the turnover battle as they will get some opportunities for their offense and are good enough on D to keep the score down.

sidenote: UMHB is #4 in scoring offense and #57 in total offense. Probably a combination of their takeaway numbers and their SOS, which is 163rd in the country. That could also be a factor that inflates their takeaways, inferior competition. Through 2 rounds UMHB has created 9 takeaways against only 1 giveaway.

So it's about the takeaways. You're probably going to be proven correct.
Thinking about the offensive styles as it relates to takeaways, I wonder if UWW won't go the route of ultra conservative. UWW hasn't had a banner passing year, so the staff may see UMHB's speed in the secondary as reason to stay on the ground. I think UWW RB's fumbled twice last year and both those guys are back and I'm sure eager to perform.
I may be odd man out here, but I like UWW's pass defense v UMHB as I think their QB will be facing pressure. That combination may win UWW the takeaway battle.

UMHB's answer to Jase's struggle with mobility may be Tommy Bowden, freshman QB who is fast and has an electric arm. Of course, we also have Senior Luke Poorman healthy this year who is mobile and can throw as well. I'm pretty sure he is able as well. Playing for Mount and UMHB has given him a lot of experience and confidence in pressure situations.

UMHB's Hardin-Simmons game offers UWW the only formula by which the Warhawks can win, IMO, and provides evidence that the Cru is beatable (even if a 43-yd fg at the horn saved their arses in that one). That is, don't turn it over. I don't see this UWW offense pounding the rock and moving the sticks against the Cru, but if they can get a couple short fields on turnovers, punt/cover well, connect on FG attempts, be mistake-free and basically perfect on defense, they can win a field-position game by a 12-10 type score.

Baldini

Quote from: DuffMan on December 04, 2019, 09:22:07 AM
I know a team that might be looking for a new QB next year.  ;D

That would be a windfall for St. John's, but something tells me he is looking to move up in divisions.

DuffMan

Quote from: Baldini on December 04, 2019, 10:55:23 AM
Quote from: DuffMan on December 04, 2019, 09:22:07 AM
I know a team that might be looking for a new QB next year.  ;D

That would be a windfall for St. John's, but something tells me he is looking to move up in divisions.

Something tells me that SJU's got a guy or two in mind.  :o

A tradition unrivaled...
MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
National Champions: '63, '65, '76, '03