FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[WarhawkDad]

UWW has been getting blasted as being a publicly funded university with less than quality education.   But straight from the St. John's website; their game preview has this quote, "No.7 UW-Whitewater, meanwhile, dominated No. 1/2 Mary Hardin-Baylor (Texas) in a 26-7 road victory, out-gaining the Warhawks 358-140 and possessing the ball for over 42 minutes."

So the writers and editors of this sentence thought that UMHB was the Warhawks.....or didn't know that UMHB was the Crusaders?   

I have no doubt that they know which team are Crusaders and which team are Warhawks.  It's an easy, innocent mistake to make when you've got both the look back and the look forward aspects of a weekly set of game notes in your head at the same time. 

You need to use more simple words, wally.

Now that was funny....and tied directly into my obviously tongue in cheek, emoji filled post.

[WarhawkDad]

I get the arrogance UWW has and should have.

Looking forward to a great game.

Please don't think that the UWW team and coaches have the arrogance, just because UWW posters are defending and supporting our team.   Coach Bullis is on of the most humble respectful coaches I have ever been around and I guarantee they are not arrogant about the challenge of facing SJU.     

On the other hand, there are many D3board posters that are overly arrogant about their team.....it is why we all spend so much time here.

Looking forward to a great game as well.

[OzJohnnie]

Wheaton gave up 1 of the 5 TD's because of a mental lapse. The other 4 were well covered receivers where Erdman just threw it to the right spot (from 25-50 yds away) and or the receiver made a great catch. Wheaton hit Erdman many times with their DL. Sacked him basically 5x (3 recorded sacks and 2 that went for 1-2 yd gains off scrambles) 3 of his 5 TD's were scrambles from pressure where he made a throw and the receiver made a catch. Wheaton had probably 7-9 other hits/pressures on Erdman where he threw it away or got it off as we hit him.

I seriously doubt UWW is gonna get to him any more that Wheaton did. They may get to him a similar number of times and their DB's may make more plays than Wheaton's did on the ball, that remains to be seen. Wheaton played against plenty of other offenses that were capable and they were one of the better defenses in the country at limiting big plays. The thing is, Erdman isn't going to throw it deep 1 or 2 times like most teams. he is gonna do it 10-15 times. That's pretty unusual and can test even the best defensive strategies.

I get the arrogance UWW has and should have. I believe they will be int he right spots. I believe they will get pressure on Erdman. I think all that will matter. How much? Don't know. Bigger key is can UWW offense score enough to put more pressure on Erdman and company? Wheaton fell behind early and never really got to put pressure on StJ until second half, when their strategy began to work. If UWW can get a lead, I think that's better.

Looking forward to a great game.

It is true that Wheaton never rolled over.  Tough side. Knife edge game.

The italicized sentence is key.  Get a lead and run out the clock.  Wheaton's success at staying on the field combined with exceptional defense is what got your second half going.  Had you been in front or closer at the half it would have been a very different result.

UWW's offense is significantly less potent than Wheaton's (ranked 110th for total offense vs 10th) and more run heavy (55%/45% run/pass vs Wheaton's 40/60).  UWW's defense will, you would expect, have much less wiggle room for allowing SJU scores than Wheaton did.  But then Concordia were even less likely but got the perfect storm so all this guessing means two-tenths of F all when the players hit the field.

[JMM]

Think WW will play same type of game as they did against UMB. So to me the question is can WW hold onto the ball for 40 minutes or more. That to me determines the outcome of this game. Yes, one can say there is Johnnie magic, but it only shows itself once in a while. Johnnies also show the ability to be "spaced out" and end up having to recover from a horrific 1st half (Concordia and Stout and many others). I compare this game to the Bobby Fischer vs Boris Spassky chess match. If SJU stays loose, creative and free wheeling, they will defeat the steady as a rock, traditional minded and by the script WW team.  As has been the case too many times in the playoffs, SJU has not fared well against WW.  The Johnnies cannot get the "Lake Wobegon Spaced Deal" going or there is no magic, just regret.  Maybe this is what is on master Jackson's shoulders..

[bleedpurple]

Think WW will play same type of game as they did against UMB. So to me the question is can WW hold onto the ball for 40 minutes or more. That to me determines the outcome of this game. Yes, one can say there is Johnnie magic, but it only shows itself once in a while. Johnnies also show the ability to be "spaced out" and end up having to recover from a horrific 1st half (Concordia and Stout and many others). I compare this game to the Bobby Fischer vs Boris Spassky chess match. If SJU stays loose, creative and free wheeling, they will defeat the steady as a rock, traditional minded and by the script WW team.  As has been the case too many times in the playoffs, SJU has not fared well against WW.  The Johnnies cannot get the "Lake Wobegon Spaced Deal" going or there is no magic, just regret.  Maybe this is what is on master Jackson's shoulders..

A Dodgeball reference and a Fischer/Spassky reference on the same page. Gotta love it!

[WW]

Welp, count me among those who think stuff like blocking and tackling will have a far greater effect on the outcome than 13-year-ago Stagg Bowls or magic. Any of y'all going? I may or may not be sharing some of my pregame Fireball in the Fieldhouse lot.

Ooh, so profound.
Here I thought all UWW had to do was point toward the National Championship banners and SJU would forfeit.

The game is much more than blocking and tackling. There is a big advantage to program tradition in many ways. To me, recent history is important because there are still several coaches on the team that coached through all those playoff games and Stagg Bowls. With that experience, they bring not only knowledge, but proof of their game planning to face the best of the best. UWW players, like the very DB's that will be in the exact same situations as Wheaton, Aurora and all the rest were, should be in better position to not only block and tackle, but excel in the mental aspect of the game, partly due to the success of previous years.
That's my opinion.

No. It's blocking and tackling. I'm right. You're wrong. Good day.

[wally_wabash]

UWW has been getting blasted as being a publicly funded university with less than quality education.   But straight from the St. John's website; their game preview has this quote, "No.7 UW-Whitewater, meanwhile, dominated No. 1/2 Mary Hardin-Baylor (Texas) in a 26-7 road victory, out-gaining the Warhawks 358-140 and possessing the ball for over 42 minutes."

So the writers and editors of this sentence thought that UMHB was the Warhawks.....or didn't know that UMHB was the Crusaders?   

I have no doubt that they know which team are Crusaders and which team are Warhawks.  It's an easy, innocent mistake to make when you've got both the look back and the look forward aspects of a weekly set of game notes in your head at the same time.

So says another private school supporter. 

Emojis or no, please don't paint me into that corner.  I couldn't care less how the school you support is funded and I don't think it has one iota of influence on the outcome of football games. 

[bleedpurple]

Welp, count me among those who think stuff like blocking and tackling will have a far greater effect on the outcome than 13-year-ago Stagg Bowls or magic. Any of y'all going? I may or may not be sharing some of my pregame Fireball in the Fieldhouse lot.

Ooh, so profound.
Here I thought all UWW had to do was point toward the National Championship banners and SJU would forfeit.

The game is much more than blocking and tackling. There is a big advantage to program tradition in many ways. To me, recent history is important because there are still several coaches on the team that coached through all those playoff games and Stagg Bowls. With that experience, they bring not only knowledge, but proof of their game planning to face the best of the best. UWW players, like the very DB's that will be in the exact same situations as Wheaton, Aurora and all the rest were, should be in better position to not only block and tackle, but excel in the mental aspect of the game, partly due to the success of previous years.
That's my opinion.

No. It's blocking and tackling. I'm right. You're wrong. Good day.

I need a quick briefing of message board rules.  When someone says "Good day", does that mean no one else is able to respond? Is that kind of like saying "Jinx" when we were a kid?

[WW]

Think WW will play same type of game as they did against UMB. So to me the question is can WW hold onto the ball for 40 minutes or more. That to me determines the outcome of this game. Yes, one can say there is Johnnie magic, but it only shows itself once in a while. Johnnies also show the ability to be "spaced out" and end up having to recover from a horrific 1st half (Concordia and Stout and many others). I compare this game to the Bobby Fischer vs Boris Spassky chess match. If SJU stays loose, creative and free wheeling, they will defeat the steady as a rock, traditional minded and by the script WW team.  As has been the case too many times in the playoffs, SJU has not fared well against WW.  The Johnnies cannot get the "Lake Wobegon Spaced Deal" going or there is no magic, just regret.  Maybe this is what is on master Jackson's shoulders..

UWW would absolutely positively love to play the same type of game they played vs UMHB, IMO. If they execute it even three quarters as near-perfectly as they did Saturday, SJU won't last.

[02 Warhawk]

Welp, count me among those who think stuff like blocking and tackling will have a far greater effect on the outcome than 13-year-ago Stagg Bowls or magic. Any of y'all going? I may or may not be sharing some of my pregame Fireball in the Fieldhouse lot.

Ooh, so profound.
Here I thought all UWW had to do was point toward the National Championship banners and SJU would forfeit.

The game is much more than blocking and tackling. There is a big advantage to program tradition in many ways. To me, recent history is important because there are still several coaches on the team that coached through all those playoff games and Stagg Bowls. With that experience, they bring not only knowledge, but proof of their game planning to face the best of the best. UWW players, like the very DB's that will be in the exact same situations as Wheaton, Aurora and all the rest were, should be in better position to not only block and tackle, but excel in the mental aspect of the game, partly due to the success of previous years.
That's my opinion.

You can probably count them on one hand. A lot of turnover has occurred since that 2014 season. Bullis and maybe a few others??

[WW]

Welp, count me among those who think stuff like blocking and tackling will have a far greater effect on the outcome than 13-year-ago Stagg Bowls or magic. Any of y'all going? I may or may not be sharing some of my pregame Fireball in the Fieldhouse lot.

Ooh, so profound.
Here I thought all UWW had to do was point toward the National Championship banners and SJU would forfeit.

The game is much more than blocking and tackling. There is a big advantage to program tradition in many ways. To me, recent history is important because there are still several coaches on the team that coached through all those playoff games and Stagg Bowls. With that experience, they bring not only knowledge, but proof of their game planning to face the best of the best. UWW players, like the very DB's that will be in the exact same situations as Wheaton, Aurora and all the rest were, should be in better position to not only block and tackle, but excel in the mental aspect of the game, partly due to the success of previous years.
That's my opinion.

No. It's blocking and tackling. I'm right. You're wrong. Good day.

I need a quick briefing of message board rules.  When someone says "Good day", does that mean no one else is able to respond? Is that kind of like saying "Jinx" when we were a kid?

I SAID GOOD DAY, SIR

[bleedpurple]

Welp, count me among those who think stuff like blocking and tackling will have a far greater effect on the outcome than 13-year-ago Stagg Bowls or magic. Any of y'all going? I may or may not be sharing some of my pregame Fireball in the Fieldhouse lot.

Ooh, so profound.
Here I thought all UWW had to do was point toward the National Championship banners and SJU would forfeit.

The game is much more than blocking and tackling. There is a big advantage to program tradition in many ways. To me, recent history is important because there are still several coaches on the team that coached through all those playoff games and Stagg Bowls. With that experience, they bring not only knowledge, but proof of their game planning to face the best of the best. UWW players, like the very DB's that will be in the exact same situations as Wheaton, Aurora and all the rest were, should be in better position to not only block and tackle, but excel in the mental aspect of the game, partly due to the success of previous years.
That's my opinion.

No. It's blocking and tackling. I'm right. You're wrong. Good day.

I need a quick briefing of message board rules.  When someone says "Good day", does that mean no one else is able to respond? Is that kind of like saying "Jinx" when we were a kid?

I SAID GOOD DAY, SIR

Got it, the caps are clarifying!

[emma17]

I'm confused again, if Erdmann neither blocks nor tackles, is he even a part of the game?
If a DB goes the entire game without a tackle, but has 4 pass breakups, is he part of the game?
My questions are now endless, and there is no help in site as Master WW has made his final proclamation.

[emma17]

Welp, count me among those who think stuff like blocking and tackling will have a far greater effect on the outcome than 13-year-ago Stagg Bowls or magic. Any of y'all going? I may or may not be sharing some of my pregame Fireball in the Fieldhouse lot.

Ooh, so profound.
Here I thought all UWW had to do was point toward the National Championship banners and SJU would forfeit.

The game is much more than blocking and tackling. There is a big advantage to program tradition in many ways. To me, recent history is important because there are still several coaches on the team that coached through all those playoff games and Stagg Bowls. With that experience, they bring not only knowledge, but proof of their game planning to face the best of the best. UWW players, like the very DB's that will be in the exact same situations as Wheaton, Aurora and all the rest were, should be in better position to not only block and tackle, but excel in the mental aspect of the game, partly due to the success of previous years.
That's my opinion.

You can probably count them on one hand. A lot of turnover has occurred since that 2014 season. Bullis and maybe a few others??

Not sure if you're looking for answers or doubting the idea there are experienced UWW coaches that can make a difference. Even if it were only Bullis, I'd still feel extremely confident in his ability to pull from past experiences different ideas on how to play defensive football against the best of the best teams.
There are at least four, so as long as your hand has that many fingers, you are correct.

[jamtod]

Welp, count me among those who think stuff like blocking and tackling will have a far greater effect on the outcome than 13-year-ago Stagg Bowls or magic. Any of y'all going? I may or may not be sharing some of my pregame Fireball in the Fieldhouse lot.

Ooh, so profound.
Here I thought all UWW had to do was point toward the National Championship banners and SJU would forfeit.

The game is much more than blocking and tackling. There is a big advantage to program tradition in many ways. To me, recent history is important because there are still several coaches on the team that coached through all those playoff games and Stagg Bowls. With that experience, they bring not only knowledge, but proof of their game planning to face the best of the best. UWW players, like the very DB's that will be in the exact same situations as Wheaton, Aurora and all the rest were, should be in better position to not only block and tackle, but excel in the mental aspect of the game, partly due to the success of previous years.
That's my opinion.

You can probably count them on one hand. A lot of turnover has occurred since that 2014 season. Bullis and maybe a few others??

Not sure if you're looking for answers or doubting the idea there are experienced UWW coaches that can make a difference. Even if it were only Bullis, I'd still feel extremely confident in his ability to pull from past experiences different ideas on how to play defensive football against the best of the best teams.
There are at least four, so as long as your hand has that many fingers, you are correct.

I hate to play the St John's defender game, but if we want to focus on coaching experience, they have a few coaches on staff that were a part of the 2003 Stagg Bowl team also, that can pull from "past experiences on different ideas on how to play against the best of the best teams."

Head Coach Fasching was on the staff in 2003. Jerry Haugen was the 2003 D3 Defensive Coordinator of the year (and I think played on the 1976 championship team too). Brandon Novak coached the linebackers. Damien Dumonceaux was on the field that year, so that has to count for something.

And lest we downplay the very important Johnnie Magic which is definitely a real thing.