FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[USee]

Well, this is interesting- to me anyway.
From the Daily Herald:

Derek Kumerow and Andrew Kamienski were seventh-grade teammates on the Bartlett Raiders youth football team.

They later formed a dynamic 1-2 punch as all-area receivers at South Elgin High School.

Jake Kumerow also attended South Elgin High School.

UWW picked up a couple players in NCC's backyard:

Besides Kumerow, UW-W starters include senior cornerback Garrett Purdy of Naperville Central, junior safety Mark McGrath from Lisle,

From the same article, Coach Bullis said this:

"They've got both facets of the game, which, truly, to me, is the biggest challenge," Whitewater fifth-year coach Kevin Bullis said. "They've got the quarterback, wide receivers and tailback and they can do that because of their offensive line. That's really going to be the biggest challenge. You're not going to nullify that. You're not going to stop them. What you have to do is minimize the damage they do off those big plays, those little explosive plays."

He really is telling us UWW's gameplan, which will be to keep 2 high safeties, keep everything in front of you and tackle aggressively. He is going to count on his front 4 and LB's to get pressure without blitzing and to control the LOS. Certainly not surprising and fits both the UWW philosophy and the roadmap I think you have to take to beat NCC. That's what Bethel did last year, Wheaton did this year, and others have tried to do. Dudes against Dudes, makes for a great script.

[02 Warhawk]

That's basically UWW's defensive game plan for the past 15 years. We rarely give up big plays. We were the only team to stifle SJU this year in that regard.

[HScoach]

That's basically UWW's defensive game plan for the past 15 years. We rarely give up big plays. We were the only team to stifle SJU this year in that regard.

And the big plays were a HUGE reason why Mount won the games they did.  95 yd run by Kmic in 05.  2 bombs in 1st quarter to Cecil Shorts in 08.  The years UWW won they limited Mount's chunk plays and made them sustain drives which is awfully hard to do against a defense historically as physical and as fast as UWW usually has.  The only game I remember Mount pushing UWW around was the earlier round game a few years ago, but that wasn't one of the better UWW teams.

[02 Warhawk]

That's basically UWW's defensive game plan for the past 15 years. We rarely give up big plays. We were the only team to stifle SJU this year in that regard.

And the big plays were a HUGE reason why Mount won the games they did.  95 yd run by Kmic in 05.  2 bombs in 1st quarter to Cecil Shorts in 08.  The years UWW won they limited Mount's chunk plays and made them sustain drives which is awfully hard to do against a defense historically as physical and as fast as UWW usually has.  The only game I remember Mount pushing UWW around was the earlier round game a few years ago, but that wasn't one of the better UWW teams.

Exactly. In fact, when I said "rarely" I had those two years in mind.

[emma17]

That's basically UWW's defensive game plan for the past 15 years. We rarely give up big plays. We were the only team to stifle SJU this year in that regard.

And the big plays were a HUGE reason why Mount won the games they did.  95 yd run by Kmic in 05.  2 bombs in 1st quarter to Cecil Shorts in 08.  The years UWW won they limited Mount's chunk plays and made them sustain drives which is awfully hard to do against a defense historically as physical and as fast as UWW usually has.  The only game I remember Mount pushing UWW around was the earlier round game a few years ago, but that wasn't one of the better UWW teams.

Exactly. In fact, when I said "rarely" I had those two years in mind.

This stuff takes me back to an interview of former DC Coach Borland while at UWW. I don't recall the exact words, but the point he made was people assumed he made lots of adjustments at halftime. When in fact, the majority of any change came from really good, smart players simply implementing the base defense better, after they had one half of football to acclimate. 

[CardinalAlum]

Well, this is interesting- to me anyway.
From the Daily Herald:

Derek Kumerow and Andrew Kamienski were seventh-grade teammates on the Bartlett Raiders youth football team.

They later formed a dynamic 1-2 punch as all-area receivers at South Elgin High School.

Jake Kumerow also attended South Elgin High School.

UWW picked up a couple players in NCC's backyard:

Besides Kumerow, UW-W starters include senior cornerback Garrett Purdy of Naperville Central, junior safety Mark McGrath from Lisle,

McGrath's uncle played at NCC too.  🤦🏻‍♂️

[RoyalsFan]

That's basically UWW's defensive game plan for the past 15 years. We rarely give up big plays. We were the only team to stifle SJU this year in that regard.

Not sure I entirely agree with that. SJU was held to under 20 points in 3 games this year.

[02 Warhawk]

That's basically UWW's defensive game plan for the past 15 years. We rarely give up big plays. We were the only team to stifle SJU this year in that regard.

Not sure I entirely agree with that. SJU was held to under 20 points in 3 games this year.

Not talking about total points given up, I'm referring to giving up that big play. Even in those games u reference, he had TD throws of 30, 45 and 70 yards.

That's what UWW was able to prevent last week.

[USee]

For NCC, what's missing here is they are not really a big play offense by design. They certainly have had their share of big plays but those are almost always due to a broken coverage and/or missed tackle. They run a system offense and are used to running 9,10,11 play drives for scores. A big part of that is due to the presence of a strong running game but Rutter doesn't throw the ball deep unless you give him man coverage and his read dictates it. To defend him you have to move him off his launch point and disrupt his read. He wont' push the ball down the field. Against Mt Union they got some big plays (broken coverage, missed tackles) but they also went 9+plays 5 times for scores. Against Del Valley they had 4 TD's with drives of 9+plays. Much more methodical on offense than St Johns. Now I don't think that changes anything for the Warhawks, they still have to win the battle up front on both sides.

Similarly, my sense of UWW's offense as a systematic approach. Correct me if I am wrong but pound the rock, hit you with play action, let the QB scramble some and mix in some slants17. They are more than content to run it for 4-5 yds a play and break your will and have the big play capability. All that points to a war in the trenches that should be epic.

[WW]

For NCC, what's missing here is they are not really a big play offense by design. They certainly have had their share of big plays but those are almost always due to a broken coverage and/or missed tackle. They run a system offense and are used to running 9,10,11 play drives for scores. A big part of that is due to the presence of a strong running game but Rutter doesn't throw the ball deep unless you give him man coverage and his read dictates it. To defend him you have to move him off his launch point and disrupt his read. He wont' push the ball down the field. Against Mt Union they got some big plays (broken coverage, missed tackles) but they also went 9+plays 5 times for scores. Against Del Valley they had 4 TD's with drives of 9+plays. Much more methodical on offense than St Johns. Now I don't think that changes anything for the Warhawks, they still have to win the battle up front on both sides.

Similarly, my sense of UWW's offense as a systematic approach. Correct me if I am wrong but pound the rock, hit you with play action, let the QB scramble some and mix in some slants17. They are more than content to run it for 4-5 yds a play and break your will and have the big play capability. All that points to a war in the trenches that should be epic.

You'd think. And after watching UWW vs UMHB, this is spot on. But they chose to pass more than rush vs SJU (when you consider the scramble "runs" out of a passing set to be plays of passing intent). The war in the trenches will matter, of course, whether they pass that much or not. But I'm out of the predicting business when it comes to UWW's offense. For all I know, Oles will start at QB just to throw us all for a loop.

[D O.C.]

Now please compare the KO/P returners before moving to the P/K players.

[RoyalsFan]

That's basically UWW's defensive game plan for the past 15 years. We rarely give up big plays. We were the only team to stifle SJU this year in that regard.

Not sure I entirely agree with that. SJU was held to under 20 points in 3 games this year.

Not talking about total points given up, I'm referring to giving up that big play. Even in those games u reference, he had TD throws of 30, 45 and 70 yards.

That's what UWW was able to prevent last week.

In the end, big plays that don't get in the end zone don't matter much, only points matter. UWW still gave up 32 points and close to 350 yards in the air. Don't get me wrong, limiting big plays helps, but keeping them out of the end zone is more important and 3 teams did that better than UWW did this year.

[02 Warhawk]

That's basically UWW's defensive game plan for the past 15 years. We rarely give up big plays. We were the only team to stifle SJU this year in that regard.

Not sure I entirely agree with that. SJU was held to under 20 points in 3 games this year.

Not talking about total points given up, I'm referring to giving up that big play. Even in those games u reference, he had TD throws of 30, 45 and 70 yards.

That's what UWW was able to prevent last week.

In the end, big plays that don't get in the end zone don't matter much, only points matter. UWW still gave up 32 points and close to 350 yards in the air. Don't get me wrong, limiting big plays helps, but keeping them out of the end zone is more important and 3 teams did that better than UWW did this year.

And two of those three teams couldn't do what UWW did....win the game. And for that Concordia game, I hear the word "fluke loss" thrown around a lot on the MIAC boards.

Longer scoring drives do result in points, ur right. But longer drives also opens the door to more QB hits, and boy did uww's front 7 pound Erdmann that night. At one point I thought he might leave the game. We did give up 350 in the air, but it took him 50 throws to do it. Where as against Wheaton, he had 50 more yards through the air in 10 fewer attempts. UWW played exactly as planned. We weren't going to stop him, but limit big plays and be very physical with him.

[BoBo]

<<The only time the UWW coaching staff should be even thinking about "Garcon" is when ordering champagne on the Parisian leg of their victory tour.>>

WW, that's one of the cleverest additions since I've been on these boards!

Who said that?

[D O.C.]

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