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Quote from: bleedpurple on February 12, 2020, 12:19:26 PM
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QB will be an interesting position to watch as UWW preps for next season. Oles and Meylor have each sought greener pastures and more PT before. With each facing only one more season of eligibility, you wonder if one of them will choose a different path. Or if some other D1 benchwarmer out there has set his sights on QB1.... that seems to be about an annual occurrence at UWW lately.

While Oles is a junior in the classroom, he was only a sophomore in terms of eligibility. Two years left. Doesn't detract from your point, just for the record.

I'm not aware of D1 QB transfers to UWW- who am I missing?
I know Oles and Meylor, as well as Blanchard and Jones transferred in, but they weren't D1.

I'll say this, if a QB does transfer in knowing there are two returning starters, it sure says something.

I'm guessing he is referring to the Pac-10 transfer from last year. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to recover sufficiently from surgery to compete at 100%.

Actually I was mainly referring to Oles, who came from Butler. The roster in 2018 listed him as a sophomore, so I presumed that referenced his eligibility. Appears the Butler season, therefore, was a redshirt.

Thanks for pointing out the pac-10 xfer, bleed. I wasn't going to :)
I appreciate that.  Since it's a year removed, it's a non-issue. I don't know if it's just me or not, but it seems like there might be an uptick in D-I transfers to a lot of the top teams in recent years.  There has been an active D-II train to D-III for a long time, but it seems like D-I transfers are more common recently. Maybe just my perception with higher profile guys like Rutter transferring from Indiana State and Erdmann from Penn State.

It will be interesting to see who lands some of the guys from the D-II schools in Minnesota that eliminated the football program. I think I saw on the Boards that UMHB landed a QB? And I think I saw on Twitter where they landed another Texas A&M track sprinter.

My two cents but I don't think there's a whole lot of impact players coming from Crookston (0-11 in 2019) or SCSU, at least to the top levels of D3, but I imagine they could carve themselves some nice careers if they set their sights on UMAC schools or second-tier MIAC. The SCSU QB transfer to UMHB just seems odd. He may have other reasons for going there but I can't imagine him getting on the field in his remaining years of eligibility.

bleedpurple

Quote from: WW on February 12, 2020, 01:16:03 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 12, 2020, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: WW on February 12, 2020, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 11, 2020, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: emma17 on February 11, 2020, 06:32:59 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 11, 2020, 05:31:46 PM
Quote from: WW on February 11, 2020, 10:34:10 AM
QB will be an interesting position to watch as UWW preps for next season. Oles and Meylor have each sought greener pastures and more PT before. With each facing only one more season of eligibility, you wonder if one of them will choose a different path. Or if some other D1 benchwarmer out there has set his sights on QB1.... that seems to be about an annual occurrence at UWW lately.

While Oles is a junior in the classroom, he was only a sophomore in terms of eligibility. Two years left. Doesn't detract from your point, just for the record.

I'm not aware of D1 QB transfers to UWW- who am I missing?
I know Oles and Meylor, as well as Blanchard and Jones transferred in, but they weren't D1.

I'll say this, if a QB does transfer in knowing there are two returning starters, it sure says something.

I'm guessing he is referring to the Pac-10 transfer from last year. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to recover sufficiently from surgery to compete at 100%.

Actually I was mainly referring to Oles, who came from Butler. The roster in 2018 listed him as a sophomore, so I presumed that referenced his eligibility. Appears the Butler season, therefore, was a redshirt.

Thanks for pointing out the pac-10 xfer, bleed. I wasn't going to :)
I appreciate that.  Since it's a year removed, it's a non-issue. I don't know if it's just me or not, but it seems like there might be an uptick in D-I transfers to a lot of the top teams in recent years.  There has been an active D-II train to D-III for a long time, but it seems like D-I transfers are more common recently. Maybe just my perception with higher profile guys like Rutter transferring from Indiana State and Erdmann from Penn State.

It will be interesting to see who lands some of the guys from the D-II schools in Minnesota that eliminated the football program. I think I saw on the Boards that UMHB landed a QB? And I think I saw on Twitter where they landed another Texas A&M track sprinter.

My two cents but I don't think there's a whole lot of impact players coming from Crookston (0-11 in 2019) or SCSU, at least to the top levels of D3, but I imagine they could carve themselves some nice careers if they set their sights on UMAC schools or second-tier MIAC. The SCSU QB transfer to UMHB just seems odd. He may have other reasons for going there but I can't imagine him getting on the field in his remaining years of eligibility.

I agree with this. I have felt for the last decade or so (maybe forever) the upper tier of D-III would put a beating on the lowest tier of D-II.

DuffMan

SJU has had a handful of quality transfers from SCSU in the past 5-10 years.  The QB going to UMHB wasn't even a starter at SCSU, so either he has other reasons or he disillusioned about his skill level.

I think the UW schools may benefit as SCSU draws a lot of WI talent.  Crookston, though, like mentioned, was terrible.

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WW

Quote from: bleedpurple on February 12, 2020, 01:58:40 PM
Quote from: WW on February 12, 2020, 01:16:03 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 12, 2020, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: WW on February 12, 2020, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 11, 2020, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: emma17 on February 11, 2020, 06:32:59 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 11, 2020, 05:31:46 PM
Quote from: WW on February 11, 2020, 10:34:10 AM
QB will be an interesting position to watch as UWW preps for next season. Oles and Meylor have each sought greener pastures and more PT before. With each facing only one more season of eligibility, you wonder if one of them will choose a different path. Or if some other D1 benchwarmer out there has set his sights on QB1.... that seems to be about an annual occurrence at UWW lately.

While Oles is a junior in the classroom, he was only a sophomore in terms of eligibility. Two years left. Doesn't detract from your point, just for the record.

I'm not aware of D1 QB transfers to UWW- who am I missing?
I know Oles and Meylor, as well as Blanchard and Jones transferred in, but they weren't D1.

I'll say this, if a QB does transfer in knowing there are two returning starters, it sure says something.

I'm guessing he is referring to the Pac-10 transfer from last year. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to recover sufficiently from surgery to compete at 100%.

Actually I was mainly referring to Oles, who came from Butler. The roster in 2018 listed him as a sophomore, so I presumed that referenced his eligibility. Appears the Butler season, therefore, was a redshirt.

Thanks for pointing out the pac-10 xfer, bleed. I wasn't going to :)
I appreciate that.  Since it's a year removed, it's a non-issue. I don't know if it's just me or not, but it seems like there might be an uptick in D-I transfers to a lot of the top teams in recent years.  There has been an active D-II train to D-III for a long time, but it seems like D-I transfers are more common recently. Maybe just my perception with higher profile guys like Rutter transferring from Indiana State and Erdmann from Penn State.

It will be interesting to see who lands some of the guys from the D-II schools in Minnesota that eliminated the football program. I think I saw on the Boards that UMHB landed a QB? And I think I saw on Twitter where they landed another Texas A&M track sprinter.

My two cents but I don't think there's a whole lot of impact players coming from Crookston (0-11 in 2019) or SCSU, at least to the top levels of D3, but I imagine they could carve themselves some nice careers if they set their sights on UMAC schools or second-tier MIAC. The SCSU QB transfer to UMHB just seems odd. He may have other reasons for going there but I can't imagine him getting on the field in his remaining years of eligibility.

I agree with this. I have felt for the last decade or so (maybe forever) the upper tier of D-III would put a beating on the lowest tier of D-II.

Yeah, not a whole lot of apples-to-apples comparisons out there, but the 6-4 2018 UWO team split vs D2 (7-3 loss to 6-5 Davenport, 17-7 win over 3-8 Lincoln). There's a lot of overlap and gray area, IMO.

bleedpurple

Quote from: WW on February 13, 2020, 12:07:29 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 12, 2020, 01:58:40 PM
Quote from: WW on February 12, 2020, 01:16:03 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 12, 2020, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: WW on February 12, 2020, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 11, 2020, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: emma17 on February 11, 2020, 06:32:59 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 11, 2020, 05:31:46 PM
Quote from: WW on February 11, 2020, 10:34:10 AM
QB will be an interesting position to watch as UWW preps for next season. Oles and Meylor have each sought greener pastures and more PT before. With each facing only one more season of eligibility, you wonder if one of them will choose a different path. Or if some other D1 benchwarmer out there has set his sights on QB1.... that seems to be about an annual occurrence at UWW lately.

While Oles is a junior in the classroom, he was only a sophomore in terms of eligibility. Two years left. Doesn't detract from your point, just for the record.

I'm not aware of D1 QB transfers to UWW- who am I missing?
I know Oles and Meylor, as well as Blanchard and Jones transferred in, but they weren't D1.

I'll say this, if a QB does transfer in knowing there are two returning starters, it sure says something.

I'm guessing he is referring to the Pac-10 transfer from last year. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to recover sufficiently from surgery to compete at 100%.

Actually I was mainly referring to Oles, who came from Butler. The roster in 2018 listed him as a sophomore, so I presumed that referenced his eligibility. Appears the Butler season, therefore, was a redshirt.

Thanks for pointing out the pac-10 xfer, bleed. I wasn't going to :)
I appreciate that.  Since it's a year removed, it's a non-issue. I don't know if it's just me or not, but it seems like there might be an uptick in D-I transfers to a lot of the top teams in recent years.  There has been an active D-II train to D-III for a long time, but it seems like D-I transfers are more common recently. Maybe just my perception with higher profile guys like Rutter transferring from Indiana State and Erdmann from Penn State.

It will be interesting to see who lands some of the guys from the D-II schools in Minnesota that eliminated the football program. I think I saw on the Boards that UMHB landed a QB? And I think I saw on Twitter where they landed another Texas A&M track sprinter.

My two cents but I don't think there's a whole lot of impact players coming from Crookston (0-11 in 2019) or SCSU, at least to the top levels of D3, but I imagine they could carve themselves some nice careers if they set their sights on UMAC schools or second-tier MIAC. The SCSU QB transfer to UMHB just seems odd. He may have other reasons for going there but I can't imagine him getting on the field in his remaining years of eligibility.

I agree with this. I have felt for the last decade or so (maybe forever) the upper tier of D-III would put a beating on the lowest tier of D-II.

Yeah, not a whole lot of apples-to-apples comparisons out there, but the 6-4 2018 UWO team split vs D2 (7-3 loss to 6-5 Davenport, 17-7 win over 3-8 Lincoln). There's a lot of overlap and gray area, IMO.

Your point may be true, but I think most any Oshkosh team from 2011 to 2017 would have rolled both of those teams. Just my opinion.

WW

Quote from: bleedpurple on February 13, 2020, 03:26:35 PM
Quote from: WW on February 13, 2020, 12:07:29 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 12, 2020, 01:58:40 PM
Quote from: WW on February 12, 2020, 01:16:03 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 12, 2020, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: WW on February 12, 2020, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 11, 2020, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: emma17 on February 11, 2020, 06:32:59 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 11, 2020, 05:31:46 PM
Quote from: WW on February 11, 2020, 10:34:10 AM
QB will be an interesting position to watch as UWW preps for next season. Oles and Meylor have each sought greener pastures and more PT before. With each facing only one more season of eligibility, you wonder if one of them will choose a different path. Or if some other D1 benchwarmer out there has set his sights on QB1.... that seems to be about an annual occurrence at UWW lately.

While Oles is a junior in the classroom, he was only a sophomore in terms of eligibility. Two years left. Doesn't detract from your point, just for the record.

I'm not aware of D1 QB transfers to UWW- who am I missing?
I know Oles and Meylor, as well as Blanchard and Jones transferred in, but they weren't D1.

I'll say this, if a QB does transfer in knowing there are two returning starters, it sure says something.

I'm guessing he is referring to the Pac-10 transfer from last year. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to recover sufficiently from surgery to compete at 100%.

Actually I was mainly referring to Oles, who came from Butler. The roster in 2018 listed him as a sophomore, so I presumed that referenced his eligibility. Appears the Butler season, therefore, was a redshirt.

Thanks for pointing out the pac-10 xfer, bleed. I wasn't going to :)
I appreciate that.  Since it's a year removed, it's a non-issue. I don't know if it's just me or not, but it seems like there might be an uptick in D-I transfers to a lot of the top teams in recent years.  There has been an active D-II train to D-III for a long time, but it seems like D-I transfers are more common recently. Maybe just my perception with higher profile guys like Rutter transferring from Indiana State and Erdmann from Penn State.

It will be interesting to see who lands some of the guys from the D-II schools in Minnesota that eliminated the football program. I think I saw on the Boards that UMHB landed a QB? And I think I saw on Twitter where they landed another Texas A&M track sprinter.

My two cents but I don't think there's a whole lot of impact players coming from Crookston (0-11 in 2019) or SCSU, at least to the top levels of D3, but I imagine they could carve themselves some nice careers if they set their sights on UMAC schools or second-tier MIAC. The SCSU QB transfer to UMHB just seems odd. He may have other reasons for going there but I can't imagine him getting on the field in his remaining years of eligibility.

I agree with this. I have felt for the last decade or so (maybe forever) the upper tier of D-III would put a beating on the lowest tier of D-II.

Yeah, not a whole lot of apples-to-apples comparisons out there, but the 6-4 2018 UWO team split vs D2 (7-3 loss to 6-5 Davenport, 17-7 win over 3-8 Lincoln). There's a lot of overlap and gray area, IMO.

Your point may be true, but I think most any Oshkosh team from 2011 to 2017 would have rolled both of those teams. Just my opinion.

Possible. The 18 UWO team was probably around 50 in Hansen D3 rankings. Game results suggest they were certainly in the ballpark against middling D2 teams. Top D2s would steamroll top D3s, imo. But the notion that there's an absolute difference between D2 athletes/teams and D3 athletes/teams is goofed.

bleedpurple

Quote from: WW on February 14, 2020, 11:24:47 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 13, 2020, 03:26:35 PM
Quote from: WW on February 13, 2020, 12:07:29 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 12, 2020, 01:58:40 PM
Quote from: WW on February 12, 2020, 01:16:03 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 12, 2020, 12:19:26 PM
Quote from: WW on February 12, 2020, 08:58:11 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 11, 2020, 06:58:57 PM
Quote from: emma17 on February 11, 2020, 06:32:59 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on February 11, 2020, 05:31:46 PM
Quote from: WW on February 11, 2020, 10:34:10 AM
QB will be an interesting position to watch as UWW preps for next season. Oles and Meylor have each sought greener pastures and more PT before. With each facing only one more season of eligibility, you wonder if one of them will choose a different path. Or if some other D1 benchwarmer out there has set his sights on QB1.... that seems to be about an annual occurrence at UWW lately.

While Oles is a junior in the classroom, he was only a sophomore in terms of eligibility. Two years left. Doesn't detract from your point, just for the record.

I'm not aware of D1 QB transfers to UWW- who am I missing?
I know Oles and Meylor, as well as Blanchard and Jones transferred in, but they weren't D1.

I'll say this, if a QB does transfer in knowing there are two returning starters, it sure says something.

I'm guessing he is referring to the Pac-10 transfer from last year. Unfortunately, he wasn't able to recover sufficiently from surgery to compete at 100%.

Actually I was mainly referring to Oles, who came from Butler. The roster in 2018 listed him as a sophomore, so I presumed that referenced his eligibility. Appears the Butler season, therefore, was a redshirt.

Thanks for pointing out the pac-10 xfer, bleed. I wasn't going to :)
I appreciate that.  Since it's a year removed, it's a non-issue. I don't know if it's just me or not, but it seems like there might be an uptick in D-I transfers to a lot of the top teams in recent years.  There has been an active D-II train to D-III for a long time, but it seems like D-I transfers are more common recently. Maybe just my perception with higher profile guys like Rutter transferring from Indiana State and Erdmann from Penn State.

It will be interesting to see who lands some of the guys from the D-II schools in Minnesota that eliminated the football program. I think I saw on the Boards that UMHB landed a QB? And I think I saw on Twitter where they landed another Texas A&M track sprinter.

My two cents but I don't think there's a whole lot of impact players coming from Crookston (0-11 in 2019) or SCSU, at least to the top levels of D3, but I imagine they could carve themselves some nice careers if they set their sights on UMAC schools or second-tier MIAC. The SCSU QB transfer to UMHB just seems odd. He may have other reasons for going there but I can't imagine him getting on the field in his remaining years of eligibility.

I agree with this. I have felt for the last decade or so (maybe forever) the upper tier of D-III would put a beating on the lowest tier of D-II.

Yeah, not a whole lot of apples-to-apples comparisons out there, but the 6-4 2018 UWO team split vs D2 (7-3 loss to 6-5 Davenport, 17-7 win over 3-8 Lincoln). There's a lot of overlap and gray area, IMO.

Your point may be true, but I think most any Oshkosh team from 2011 to 2017 would have rolled both of those teams. Just my opinion.

Possible. The 18 UWO team was probably around 50 in Hansen D3 rankings. Game results suggest they were certainly in the ballpark against middling D2 teams. Top D2s would steamroll top D3s, imo. But the notion that there's an absolute difference between D2 athletes/teams and D3 athletes/teams is goofed.
Agreed. I think people (especially upper division student athletes) tend to exaggerate the demarcation between the divisions.  I've seen it when D-I or D-II kids transfer and are shocked they aren't immediately inserted in the lineup. Some of them leave. Others work hard and it plays out how it plays out.

When my son was the strength coach for Ohio University basketball team, they had a grad assistant who played D-II ball. He would scrimmage with the guys, often playing the role of the  "other team's" best offensive player. He rocked. My son said to one of the players, "If he were a player for us, he'd probably be the sixth man."  The kid said, "No way, he's D-II."  In a separate conversation my son asked one of the coaches about it. He said, "Easily sixth man, maybe start."


bleedpurple

If you enjoy dominant, physical linemen, you will enjoy this highlight reel. Quinn Meinerz is a beast.

https://www.hudl.com/video/3/9624814/5e462bf319a5700494a2778b

emma17

Great news for Lance and staff at UB
From Daily Jefferson:
QuoteOn Friday, Leipold and UB agreed to a contract extension that will run through the 2024 season

There is an interview following the short article:
https://www.dailyunion.com/sports/leipold-furthers-continuity-with-buffalo-extension/article_0f358f56-cec5-5e8f-9617-586d4abd6cb2.html

WW

Quote from: emma17 on February 25, 2020, 11:48:33 AM
Great news for Lance and staff at UB
From Daily Jefferson:
QuoteOn Friday, Leipold and UB agreed to a contract extension that will run through the 2024 season

There is an interview following the short article:
https://www.dailyunion.com/sports/leipold-furthers-continuity-with-buffalo-extension/article_0f358f56-cec5-5e8f-9617-586d4abd6cb2.html

I thought 2019 was a really good year for them, given the talent they had to replace. But I'd sure like to see LL take one more big step before he's done, and that's to a Power 5.

emma17

Quote from: WW on February 25, 2020, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: emma17 on February 25, 2020, 11:48:33 AM
Great news for Lance and staff at UB
From Daily Jefferson:
QuoteOn Friday, Leipold and UB agreed to a contract extension that will run through the 2024 season

There is an interview following the short article:
https://www.dailyunion.com/sports/leipold-furthers-continuity-with-buffalo-extension/article_0f358f56-cec5-5e8f-9617-586d4abd6cb2.html

I thought 2019 was a really good year for them, given the talent they had to replace. But I'd sure like to see LL take one more big step before he's done, and that's to a Power 5.

They had a great running attack in 2019 that really helped them overcome the losses to the passing game.
I'm surprised LL's bonus potential isn't greater than $100,000 for making the college playoffs. I guess he'd make up for it with a new contract at whatever program he wanted.

WW

Quote from: emma17 on February 25, 2020, 07:00:12 PM
Quote from: WW on February 25, 2020, 03:56:23 PM
Quote from: emma17 on February 25, 2020, 11:48:33 AM
Great news for Lance and staff at UB
From Daily Jefferson:
QuoteOn Friday, Leipold and UB agreed to a contract extension that will run through the 2024 season

There is an interview following the short article:
https://www.dailyunion.com/sports/leipold-furthers-continuity-with-buffalo-extension/article_0f358f56-cec5-5e8f-9617-586d4abd6cb2.html

I thought 2019 was a really good year for them, given the talent they had to replace. But I'd sure like to see LL take one more big step before he's done, and that's to a Power 5.

They had a great running attack in 2019 that really helped them overcome the losses to the passing game.
I'm surprised LL's bonus potential isn't greater than $100,000 for making the college playoffs. I guess he'd make up for it with a new contract at whatever program he wanted.

Yeah, what a weird contract rider, given they're basically ineligible for the playoff. Had they finished 2018 stronger, I would've expected him to get a Power 5 job then. 8-5 last season just isn't sexy enough to knock down a Power 5 door even though, IMO, it was a terrific coaching job and demonstrated true staying power. Other thing is I think Campbell's bloom has faded a bit at ISU. 7-6 last season, he's now 26-25 overall there. You don't hear any more NFL talk about him, that's for sure, and I wonder if he's starting to feel some heat. Different guys to be sure, but people are gonna look at their very similar career paths and draw conclusions.

WW

Pro day participants announced:

Spieker WR (UWL)
Herink TE (UWRF)
Prostiniak RB/Special teams (UWW)
Burks OL (UWSP)
Romanski LB (UWEC)
Olson DL (Stout)
Berghs LS (UWO)
Rakers LS (UWP)

bleedpurple

Congratulations to Coach Erickson on getting an opportunity to coach at D-! South Dakota State!  He did a great job at Whitewater and it has been awesome to get to know him.  He's one of the really good guys in coaching.   In the meantime, his departure opens the door for Coach Rindahl to take over as DC.  Coach Rindahl is a GREAT football coach. Very happy for both men and the opportunities they have in front of them.

badgerwarhawk

Quote from: bleedpurple on March 09, 2020, 10:48:10 PM
Congratulations to Coach Erickson on getting an opportunity to coach at D-! South Dakota State!  He did a great job at Whitewater and it has been awesome to get to know him.  He's one of the really good guys in coaching.   In the meantime, his departure opens the door for Coach Rindahl to take over as DC.  Coach Rindahl is a GREAT football coach. Very happy for both men and the opportunities they have in front of them.

Great opportunity for both.  Sorry to see Erickson move on though I've known from day one it was inevitable.  Really excited for Jace's opportunity to move up the coaching ladder to a coordinator position.  Both have earned it. 
"Strange days have found us.  Strange days have tracked us down." .... J. Morrison