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Pat Coleman

Quote from: OzJohnnie on September 20, 2021, 11:45:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2021, 11:10:58 PM
Today was the first coaches' poll of the season.

Hi, Pat. Which coaches get invited to this poll?  A breadth from across d3?  And how does that pool of voters differ from yours?

The results are pretty similar but there are a few differences that catch my eye.

I haven't seen the list of coaches but there are 47 on their poll and our poll has eight coaches.

We always make sure our voters have all the necessary information to vote. I've been told that the coaches poll voters literally have gotten a link to the D3football.com scoreboard and standings page. No opponents' records or week-by-week rundown, which is why their poll generally seems to look more like standings than ours does.
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02 Warhawk

I see Whitewater (Perkins Stadium) was on display on Monday Night Football last night.

Pat Mcafee hitting a 75 yard field goal at the Perk

USee

Quote from: bleedpurple on September 21, 2021, 07:38:11 AM
Well, this pretty much says it all:

https://twitter.com/LogHanRatings/status/1440146674295271430?s=20

This says the WIAC is the strongest conference, which I don't think is a closely held secret, but says nothing about the relative strength at the top of those conferences.

emma17

In my recollection, at this point in the season, this is the strongest top 5 I've ever seen. In years past some of us spoke of the big 2 and then the next tier. Then came the big 3. Now, 5 legit teams at this time.
#'s 6 and 7 are knocking on the door.

02 Warhawk

Quote from: USee on September 21, 2021, 11:51:26 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on September 21, 2021, 07:38:11 AM
Well, this pretty much says it all:

https://twitter.com/LogHanRatings/status/1440146674295271430?s=20

This says the WIAC is the strongest conference, which I don't think is a closely held secret, but says nothing about the relative strength at the top of those conferences.

Should he have? He's talking about conferences as a whole. Not just the good teams.

USee

#47601
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 21, 2021, 12:29:55 PM
Quote from: USee on September 21, 2021, 11:51:26 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on September 21, 2021, 07:38:11 AM
Well, this pretty much says it all:

https://twitter.com/LogHanRatings/status/1440146674295271430?s=20

This says the WIAC is the strongest conference, which I don't think is a closely held secret, but says nothing about the relative strength at the top of those conferences.

Should he have? He's talking about conferences as a whole. Not just the good teams.
Is he (talking about the conferences as a whole)? I don't know but the context of the conversation was about NCC's coach, who was upset the Warhawks are ranked above them since they beat them by 24 pts 2 years ago.
Should he have? He's talking about conferences as a whole. Not just the good teams.

colinsteinke

Quote from: USee on September 21, 2021, 12:47:13 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 21, 2021, 12:29:55 PM
Quote from: USee on September 21, 2021, 11:51:26 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on September 21, 2021, 07:38:11 AM
Well, this pretty much says it all:

https://twitter.com/LogHanRatings/status/1440146674295271430?s=20

This says the WIAC is the strongest conference, which I don't think is a closely held secret, but says nothing about the relative strength at the top of those conferences.

Is he? I don't know but the context of the conversation was about NCC's coach, who was upset the Warhawks are ranked above them since they beat them by 24 pts 2 years ago.
Should he have? He's talking about conferences as a whole. Not just the good teams.

With the relative unknown of whether NCC could replace Broc Rutter, it's not all that surprising that people would rank UWW ahead of them with a number of known entities at their skill positions, including the QB who led them to the Stagg Bowl. NCC proved they could replace him and now they're #1. If that's what motivates his team, that's great. But personally I think NCCs coach is putting too much stock into a ranking that doesn't affect his day to day. The NCAA regional rankings are what will affect seedings, and if they win out, they'll likely host until the Stagg Bowl now...so nothing truly affects their team at this point other than themselves and the team across from them.

OzJohnnie

Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 21, 2021, 09:08:19 AM
Quote from: OzJohnnie on September 20, 2021, 11:45:47 PM
Quote from: Pat Coleman on September 20, 2021, 11:10:58 PM
Today was the first coaches' poll of the season.

Hi, Pat. Which coaches get invited to this poll?  A breadth from across d3?  And how does that pool of voters differ from yours?

The results are pretty similar but there are a few differences that catch my eye.

I haven't seen the list of coaches but there are 47 on their poll and our poll has eight coaches.

We always make sure our voters have all the necessary information to vote. I've been told that the coaches poll voters literally have gotten a link to the D3football.com scoreboard and standings page. No opponents' records or week-by-week rundown, which is why their poll generally seems to look more like standings than ours does.

Thanks.  Much appreciated.
  

emma17

Quote from: colinsteinke on September 21, 2021, 03:21:04 PM
Quote from: USee on September 21, 2021, 12:47:13 PM
Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 21, 2021, 12:29:55 PM
Quote from: USee on September 21, 2021, 11:51:26 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on September 21, 2021, 07:38:11 AM
Well, this pretty much says it all:

https://twitter.com/LogHanRatings/status/1440146674295271430?s=20

This says the WIAC is the strongest conference, which I don't think is a closely held secret, but says nothing about the relative strength at the top of those conferences.

Is he? I don't know but the context of the conversation was about NCC's coach, who was upset the Warhawks are ranked above them since they beat them by 24 pts 2 years ago.
Should he have? He's talking about conferences as a whole. Not just the good teams.

With the relative unknown of whether NCC could replace Broc Rutter, it's not all that surprising that people would rank UWW ahead of them with a number of known entities at their skill positions, including the QB who led them to the Stagg Bowl. NCC proved they could replace him and now they're #1. If that's what motivates his team, that's great. But personally I think NCCs coach is putting too much stock into a ranking that doesn't affect his day to day. The NCAA regional rankings are what will affect seedings, and if they win out, they'll likely host until the Stagg Bowl now...so nothing truly affects their team at this point other than themselves and the team across from them.

Right on!!

OldAuggie

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 21, 2021, 12:29:55 PM
Quote from: USee on September 21, 2021, 11:51:26 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on September 21, 2021, 07:38:11 AM
Well, this pretty much says it all:

https://twitter.com/LogHanRatings/status/1440146674295271430?s=20

This says the WIAC is the strongest conference, which I don't think is a closely held secret, but says nothing about the relative strength at the top of those conferences.

Should he have? He's talking about conferences as a whole. Not just the good teams.
This sounds familiar like a comment made a few weeks ago by a certain, infrequent MIAC poster who played for a currently crappy MIAC team many years ago. A guy who might be following UW Stout closely these days.
MIAC champions 1928, 1997

WW

Quote from: emma17 on September 20, 2021, 05:30:14 PM
UWW's Max Meylor is completing 68% of his passes over three games with a 205 passer rating. Great numbers and reminiscent of UWW championship years QB's.
The D is in that same category.

Meylor has been excellent. Looks like a different guy than the one I last saw take the field in 2019. If I'm a UWW guy, I have some concerns about plan B, though. Lewandowski now has a 30% completion rate—to the other team. This hasn't been like past Bullis N-C skeds that almost had an audition quality to them for Oles and Wilber, or Oles and Meylor, or even a couple years ago when the third-stringer took meaningful snaps. By the end of non-conference play, they always entered WIAC with two guys you knew could do the job.

Meylor looks like a very capable guy when he tucks it away but I gotta think you won't see much of that going forward. A key to UWW's season will be keeping him upright. And if you plan on playing a 15-game season, that backup QB is gonna matter at some point.

colinsteinke

Quote from: WW on September 22, 2021, 01:10:43 PM
Quote from: emma17 on September 20, 2021, 05:30:14 PM
UWW's Max Meylor is completing 68% of his passes over three games with a 205 passer rating. Great numbers and reminiscent of UWW championship years QB's.
The D is in that same category.

Meylor has been excellent. Looks like a different guy than the one I last saw take the field in 2019. If I'm a UWW guy, I have some concerns about plan B, though. Lewandowski now has a 30% completion rate—to the other team. This hasn't been like past Bullis N-C skeds that almost had an audition quality to them for Oles and Wilber, or Oles and Meylor, or even a couple years ago when the third-stringer took meaningful snaps. By the end of non-conference play, they always entered WIAC with two guys you knew could do the job.

Meylor looks like a very capable guy when he tucks it away but I gotta think you won't see much of that going forward. A key to UWW's season will be keeping him upright. And if you plan on playing a 15-game season, that backup QB is gonna matter at some point.

I'll call myself out on this one...I thought that when touted as a "record setting QB from UWL," he was going to come in and really push Meylor for the QB1 spot. Maybe he did push him, and that's why we see such improvement. And there's no doubt there's arm talent in Lewandowski, as evidenced by some of the throws he's made. But his decision making is questionable at best. The records he set at UWL wouldn't place him terribly high on the UWW all time season records list...and his 9 touchdown game was against UWRF. I made some poor assumptions on how good he was. He's also probably trying to take the QB1 job on every throw, pressing trying to show off his promise to the coaches. But if he doesn't figure this out, he may get bypassed even for next year when he should be the heir apparent to QB1.

The offense just stalls when he gets out on the field. Given the weapons he's surrounded with...that shouldn't happen even with bad decision making. Maybe Chryst is showing some promise...I know Jennings said in pre-season interviews he's really high on all the guys in the QB room, so maybe there's some hope with a backup yet. The WIAC is deep enough this year that there may not be many blowouts, but hopefully there's still some time to get some of these guys some snaps.




02 Warhawk

Quote from: WW on September 22, 2021, 01:10:43 PM
Quote from: emma17 on September 20, 2021, 05:30:14 PM
UWW's Max Meylor is completing 68% of his passes over three games with a 205 passer rating. Great numbers and reminiscent of UWW championship years QB's.
The D is in that same category.

Meylor has been excellent. Looks like a different guy than the one I last saw take the field in 2019. If I'm a UWW guy, I have some concerns about plan B, though. Lewandowski now has a 30% completion rate—to the other team. This hasn't been like past Bullis N-C skeds that almost had an audition quality to them for Oles and Wilber, or Oles and Meylor, or even a couple years ago when the third-stringer took meaningful snaps. By the end of non-conference play, they always entered WIAC with two guys you knew could do the job.

Meylor looks like a very capable guy when he tucks it away but I gotta think you won't see much of that going forward. A key to UWW's season will be keeping him upright. And if you plan on playing a 15-game season, that backup QB is gonna matter at some point.

When UWW was winning Stagg Bowls (exception of 2010 when Blanchard got hurt in the playoffs) they had one QB taking majority of the snaps all season. I never was a fan of QB by committee. This is the best a QB has played since Bullis took the head coaching job. He really doesn't have a reason to look at someone else at this point (even if Evan played well in mop-up duties). The reason Bullis did it in previous seasons was b/c UWW's QB play was so erratic. Nobody played that great to truly solidify the position.

I guess if our biggest concern for UWW is our backup QB, things must be going pretty well.  ;) That and our kicking game is pretty horrendous. 

colinsteinke

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on September 22, 2021, 02:52:58 PM
Quote from: WW on September 22, 2021, 01:10:43 PM
Quote from: emma17 on September 20, 2021, 05:30:14 PM
UWW's Max Meylor is completing 68% of his passes over three games with a 205 passer rating. Great numbers and reminiscent of UWW championship years QB's.
The D is in that same category.

Meylor has been excellent. Looks like a different guy than the one I last saw take the field in 2019. If I'm a UWW guy, I have some concerns about plan B, though. Lewandowski now has a 30% completion rate—to the other team. This hasn't been like past Bullis N-C skeds that almost had an audition quality to them for Oles and Wilber, or Oles and Meylor, or even a couple years ago when the third-stringer took meaningful snaps. By the end of non-conference play, they always entered WIAC with two guys you knew could do the job.

Meylor looks like a very capable guy when he tucks it away but I gotta think you won't see much of that going forward. A key to UWW's season will be keeping him upright. And if you plan on playing a 15-game season, that backup QB is gonna matter at some point.

When UWW was winning Stagg Bowls (exception of 2010 when Blanchard got hurt in the playoffs) they had one QB taking majority of the snaps all season. I never was a fan of QB by committee. This is the best a QB has played since Bullis took the head coaching job. He really doesn't have a reason to look at someone else at this point (even if Evan played well in mop-up duties). The reason Bullis did it in previous seasons was b/c UWW's QB play was so erratic. Nobody played that great to truly solidify the position.

I guess if our biggest concern for UWW is our backup QB, things must be going pretty well.  ;) That and our kicking game is pretty horrendous.

Truth.

But it does look like we've got some Freshman options who have plenty of leg...so maybe that gets better.