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retagent

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 21, 2021, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 21, 2021, 10:21:53 AM
I know that it would have been tough to align in a different way, but, it is really fortuitous for the UWW team to play two 2 loss teams in their first two games, and not play an undefeated team, possibly in the semis. Meanwhile, for the Johnnies to reach the Stagg, they probably have to beat 4 undefeated teams, all Conference winners. Enjoy your easy ride Warhawk fans.

Don't fret retagent.  It will all be over soon.    :-*

I would not be surprised. Too many injuries to essential players, and too many good teams to get through. Too bad you may not get a trip to Collegeville. It is a "Magic" place.

bleedpurple

Quote from: retagent on November 21, 2021, 10:52:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 21, 2021, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 21, 2021, 10:21:53 AM
I know that it would have been tough to align in a different way, but, it is really fortuitous for the UWW team to play two 2 loss teams in their first two games, and not play an undefeated team, possibly in the semis. Meanwhile, for the Johnnies to reach the Stagg, they probably have to beat 4 undefeated teams, all Conference winners. Enjoy your easy ride Warhawk fans.

Don't fret retagent.  It will all be over soon.    :-*

I would not be surprised. Too many injuries to essential players, and too many good teams to get through. Too bad you may not get a trip to Collegeville. It is a "Magic" place.

We will be making a visit next year. So if it doesn't work out this year, you will have a chance to put us in our place then..  And for the record, I acknowledge the Johnnies have a tougher draw this week.  But next week, the Central/Wheaton winner would be a huge challenge for us. They both seem to be exceptional football teams this year.

retagent

Quote from: bleedpurple on November 21, 2021, 11:06:56 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 21, 2021, 10:52:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 21, 2021, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 21, 2021, 10:21:53 AM
I know that it would have been tough to align in a different way, but, it is really fortuitous for the UWW team to play two 2 loss teams in their first two games, and not play an undefeated team, possibly in the semis. Meanwhile, for the Johnnies to reach the Stagg, they probably have to beat 4 undefeated teams, all Conference winners. Enjoy your easy ride Warhawk fans.

Don't fret retagent.  It will all be over soon.    :-*

I would not be surprised. Too many injuries to essential players, and too many good teams to get through. Too bad you may not get a trip to Collegeville. It is a "Magic" place.

We will be making a visit next year. So if it doesn't work out this year, you will have a chance to put us in our place then..  And for the record, I acknowledge the Johnnies have a tougher draw this week.  But next week, the Central/Wheaton winner would be a huge challenge for us. They both seem to be exceptional football teams this year.

In the end, if you want to win a Championship, you have to beat some good teams. It really doesn't matter much if you go out in the first, second or third round. Only one team that makes the Playoffs will have won their last game. It is somewhat satisfying, however, to extend the season for as long as possible.

bleedpurple

Quote from: retagent on November 22, 2021, 09:18:15 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 21, 2021, 11:06:56 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 21, 2021, 10:52:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 21, 2021, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 21, 2021, 10:21:53 AM
I know that it would have been tough to align in a different way, but, it is really fortuitous for the UWW team to play two 2 loss teams in their first two games, and not play an undefeated team, possibly in the semis. Meanwhile, for the Johnnies to reach the Stagg, they probably have to beat 4 undefeated teams, all Conference winners. Enjoy your easy ride Warhawk fans.

Don't fret retagent.  It will all be over soon.    :-*

I would not be surprised. Too many injuries to essential players, and too many good teams to get through. Too bad you may not get a trip to Collegeville. It is a "Magic" place.

We will be making a visit next year. So if it doesn't work out this year, you will have a chance to put us in our place then..  And for the record, I acknowledge the Johnnies have a tougher draw this week.  But next week, the Central/Wheaton winner would be a huge challenge for us. They both seem to be exceptional football teams this year.

In the end, if you want to win a Championship, you have to beat some good teams. It really doesn't matter much if you go out in the first, second or third round. Only one team that makes the Playoffs will have won their last game. It is somewhat satisfying, however, to extend the season for as long as possible.
100%. Certainly a semi-final appearance would be considered by most a more successful season than going out in Round 2.  But would anyone really argue that Muhlenberg  was better than Mount Union in 2019? Sometimes the round a team bows out is a function of who they played when.

USee

Quote from: bleedpurple on November 22, 2021, 10:03:47 AM
Quote from: retagent on November 22, 2021, 09:18:15 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 21, 2021, 11:06:56 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 21, 2021, 10:52:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 21, 2021, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 21, 2021, 10:21:53 AM
I know that it would have been tough to align in a different way, but, it is really fortuitous for the UWW team to play two 2 loss teams in their first two games, and not play an undefeated team, possibly in the semis. Meanwhile, for the Johnnies to reach the Stagg, they probably have to beat 4 undefeated teams, all Conference winners. Enjoy your easy ride Warhawk fans.

Don't fret retagent.  It will all be over soon.    :-*

I would not be surprised. Too many injuries to essential players, and too many good teams to get through. Too bad you may not get a trip to Collegeville. It is a "Magic" place.

We will be making a visit next year. So if it doesn't work out this year, you will have a chance to put us in our place then..  And for the record, I acknowledge the Johnnies have a tougher draw this week.  But next week, the Central/Wheaton winner would be a huge challenge for us. They both seem to be exceptional football teams this year.

In the end, if you want to win a Championship, you have to beat some good teams. It really doesn't matter much if you go out in the first, second or third round. Only one team that makes the Playoffs will have won their last game. It is somewhat satisfying, however, to extend the season for as long as possible.
100%. Certainly a semi-final appearance would be considered by most a more successful season than going out in Round 2.  But would anyone really argue that Muhlenberg  was better than Mount Union in 2019? Sometimes the round a team bows out is a function of who they played when.

Yea. There are some NCC fans that argue that.

WashedUpCard

Quote from: USee on November 22, 2021, 10:27:08 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 22, 2021, 10:03:47 AM
Quote from: retagent on November 22, 2021, 09:18:15 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 21, 2021, 11:06:56 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 21, 2021, 10:52:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 21, 2021, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 21, 2021, 10:21:53 AM
I know that it would have been tough to align in a different way, but, it is really fortuitous for the UWW team to play two 2 loss teams in their first two games, and not play an undefeated team, possibly in the semis. Meanwhile, for the Johnnies to reach the Stagg, they probably have to beat 4 undefeated teams, all Conference winners. Enjoy your easy ride Warhawk fans.

Don't fret retagent.  It will all be over soon.    :-*

I would not be surprised. Too many injuries to essential players, and too many good teams to get through. Too bad you may not get a trip to Collegeville. It is a "Magic" place.

We will be making a visit next year. So if it doesn't work out this year, you will have a chance to put us in our place then..  And for the record, I acknowledge the Johnnies have a tougher draw this week.  But next week, the Central/Wheaton winner would be a huge challenge for us. They both seem to be exceptional football teams this year.

In the end, if you want to win a Championship, you have to beat some good teams. It really doesn't matter much if you go out in the first, second or third round. Only one team that makes the Playoffs will have won their last game. It is somewhat satisfying, however, to extend the season for as long as possible.
100%. Certainly a semi-final appearance would be considered by most a more successful season than going out in Round 2.  But would anyone really argue that Muhlenberg  was better than Mount Union in 2019? Sometimes the round a team bows out is a function of who they played when.

Yea. There are some NCC fans that argue that.

Really?  I haven't heard anyone say that...

emma17

I'm sure Bleed's point is (if I'm accurate) Muhlenberg made it to the third round while Mt "only" made it to the second round. Unfortunately for Mt, they had to play NCC in the second round, which is the point being made.

Absolutely- the bad luck of the playoff seeding draw knocks many excellent teams out well before their time.

WashedUpCard

Quote from: emma17 on November 22, 2021, 11:28:04 AM
I'm sure Bleed's point is (if I'm accurate) Muhlenberg made it to the third round while Mt "only" made it to the second round. Unfortunately for Mt, they had to play NCC in the second round, which is the point being made.

Absolutely- the bad luck of the playoff seeding draw knocks many excellent teams out well before their time.

I absolutely agree with Bleed's statement.  Unfortunately, I think that happens almost every year. 

I just had not heard any NCC fans argue that Muhlenberg was better than Mount Union in 2019 as USee suggested.  I have nothing but respect for USee and he has always struck me as a straight shooter... so I don't doubt that someone said it.  Its just surprising statement to me.

USee

I agree that seems to be Bleed's point. But to respond to WashedUp, here is one, of many, references to Muhlenberg from 2019:

Quote from: Stagg Again!! on December 27, 2019, 01:56:42 AM

Muhlenberg faired just as well as Whitewater did against NCC.  I wouldn't let that be your measuring stick. 

Stagg Again!!

Quote from: USee on November 22, 2021, 11:51:09 AM
I agree that seems to be Bleed's point. But to respond to WashedUp, here is one, of many, references to Muhlenberg from 2019:

Quote from: Stagg Again!! on December 27, 2019, 01:56:42 AM

Muhlenberg faired just as well as Whitewater did against NCC.  I wouldn't let that be your measuring stick. 
Once again, USee is making **** up just because I indicated that Muhlenberg was better than Wheaton in 2019.  If you will check out the footer at the bottom of ALL of his posts, you will see that I thought that Mount was possibly the second best team in 2019, followed by UWW and St. Johns.  USee isn't the straight shooter that you make him out to be Washedup... you always have to verify what he posts!!

CardinalAlum

Quote from: USee on November 22, 2021, 10:27:08 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 22, 2021, 10:03:47 AM
Quote from: retagent on November 22, 2021, 09:18:15 AM
Quote from: bleedpurple on November 21, 2021, 11:06:56 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 21, 2021, 10:52:19 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on November 21, 2021, 10:02:15 PM
Quote from: retagent on November 21, 2021, 10:21:53 AM
I know that it would have been tough to align in a different way, but, it is really fortuitous for the UWW team to play two 2 loss teams in their first two games, and not play an undefeated team, possibly in the semis. Meanwhile, for the Johnnies to reach the Stagg, they probably have to beat 4 undefeated teams, all Conference winners. Enjoy your easy ride Warhawk fans.

Don't fret retagent.  It will all be over soon.    :-*

I would not be surprised. Too many injuries to essential players, and too many good teams to get through. Too bad you may not get a trip to Collegeville. It is a "Magic" place.

We will be making a visit next year. So if it doesn't work out this year, you will have a chance to put us in our place then..  And for the record, I acknowledge the Johnnies have a tougher draw this week.  But next week, the Central/Wheaton winner would be a huge challenge for us. They both seem to be exceptional football teams this year.

In the end, if you want to win a Championship, you have to beat some good teams. It really doesn't matter much if you go out in the first, second or third round. Only one team that makes the Playoffs will have won their last game. It is somewhat satisfying, however, to extend the season for as long as possible.
100%. Certainly a semi-final appearance would be considered by most a more successful season than going out in Round 2.  But would anyone really argue that Muhlenberg  was better than Mount Union in 2019? Sometimes the round a team bows out is a function of who they played when.

Yea. There are some NCC fans that argue that.

Not this guy!  Mount Union was ridiculous in 2019, especially on offense and would've beat Muhlenberg worse than NCC did.
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CardinalAlum

Quote from: Stagg Again!! on November 22, 2021, 12:25:09 PM
Quote from: USee on November 22, 2021, 11:51:09 AM
I agree that seems to be Bleed's point. But to respond to WashedUp, here is one, of many, references to Muhlenberg from 2019:

Quote from: Stagg Again!! on December 27, 2019, 01:56:42 AM

Muhlenberg faired just as well as Whitewater did against NCC.  I wouldn't let that be your measuring stick. 
Once again, USee is making **** up just because I indicated that Muhlenberg was better than Wheaton in 2019.  If you will check out the footer at the bottom of ALL of his posts, you will see that I thought that Mount was possibly the second best team in 2019, followed by UWW and St. Johns.  USee isn't the straight shooter that you make him out to be Washedup... you always have to verify what he posts!!

I don't agree with this take either.  Wheaton was significantly better than Muhlenberg in 2019 and every bit as good as the other teams.  I mean Wheaton did beat us!
D3 National Champions 2019, 2022, 2024

CardinalAlum

Apologies to the WIAC page for the CCIW infighting!  Looking forward to hosting LaCrosse Saturday.  With Thanksgiving break, there should be plenty of parking and tailgate areas available for anyone making the trip down.  Should be a great battle between two very good teams.  Not sure if the week off helps or hurts the Cards.  I guess we will see!
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USee

So Stagg (Never)Again,

You say Muhlenberg played NCC every bit as close as Whitewater, who was your opponent in the Championship game, and then you backpedal when called on it here and point out that you ranked Mt Union AHEAD of UWW (or Muhlenberg) . And you did all this on the WIAC board. Do I have that right?

Keep talking....this is entertaining.

Stagg Again!!

Quote from: USee on November 22, 2021, 12:46:52 PM
So Stagg (Never)Again,

You say Muhlenberg played NCC every bit as close as Whitewater, who was your opponent in the Championship game, and then you backpedal when called on it here and point out that you ranked Mt Union AHEAD of UWW (or Muhlenberg) . And you did all this on the WIAC board. Do I have that right?

Keep talking....this is entertaining.
USee you are quite comical as always.  The original quote that you pulled a single sentence from had absolutely nothing to do with Mount Union, but was in reference to a mock Top 10 on the MIAC board where Miacman indicated that "We all know how Muhlenberg faired when they finally played somebody good."  My point was that the Mules had played NCC the same way that UWW had in the championship game, and "I wouldn't let that be your measuring stick" (for where to rank Muhlenberg).  North Central was on a roll at the end of the 2019 season, and I don't think that it was completely appropriate to use that one game against NCC to assess the Mules' entire season.  In fact, as you highlight in the footer of all of your posts, I made my thoughts very clear in December 2019 regarding the final rankings.  I have not "backpedaled" at all from any of my comments.  It just appears as if you, yet again, failed to grasp the meaning of simple commentary and attempted to bastardize it to serve your purpose.  I have no problem continuing this dialogue, but am quite certain that the good folks on the WIAC boards could give a crap about how I thought the 2019 Muhlenberg team was better than Wheaton.  If you would like to continue with this conversation, you are free to pm me any time USee.