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Quote from: emma17 on October 25, 2022, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on October 25, 2022, 09:45:49 AM
Just caught up reading the board. No one can accuse UW-W fans of lacking passion!  But let's relax a little bit guys.  The Hawks didn't beat up your little sister. We lost a football game.  Losing sucks and we will never get used to it. And we don't want to!  Venting is understandable and necessary.  But lest any readers who wander onto the board attach too much significance to what is being posted, we owe it to them to provide some reality.

So, if you are newer to the boards or to UW-W football, these facts are for you.

1. Coach Bullis isn't going anywhere until he chooses.
2. His overall coaching record is 74-12. His WIAC record is 42-4. As in the best conference in the country WIAC.
3. Also for visitors, the cumulative GPA of his players is over 3.0.
4. The graduation rate has increased under his watch.
5. His integrity and character is unquestioned.  I would trust my kid to him in a heartbeat.
6. He has outstanding relationships with players, coaches, other staff at the university, the administration, and the community.
7. He has mentality that we will play anyone at any time.

Our seasons have ended in disappointing fashion over the years or this discussion wouldn't even be happening.  Everyone has a right to their opinion. But the reality is that with all the euphoria of the National Championships, UW-W never wavered from our D-III philosophy.  Coach Bullis does his job the right way. Our AD is a great leader and a good man.  He isn't going to embarrass the university by pretending to be Steve Pederson.

I want to be careful in my response as I'm not advocating for a change. I also agree with your assessment of Coach Bullis' character- I get the feeling his players "would run through a wall for him". 

The game is for and about the players. I don't believe for a millisecond that players choose UWW because they have a burning desire to win the conference. I don't buy any of that.
If players are choosing UWW because they believe they have a legitimate shot at national championships, then the players are being sold short. Yes, UWW got to one Stagg and a couple semis. But UWW lost those games- and in a fashion that leaves some fans wondering as we are now.


I'll repeat. It's all about the offense. The first thing I'd do is require the OC to lock himself in a room for two days and watch game tape of 2013 and 2014. Upon exiting the locked room, the OC had better run an offense that operated exactly as the 2013 and 2014 teams. And no, it has nothing to do with who is playing quarterback.

I think this is fair. I'm not familiar at all with team's recruiting process - specifically their on-campus visits - but I'm willing to bet the coaching staff makes sure the recruit takes notice of their national championship trophies. Highly insinuating that this is the caliber of program you'll be coming to play for.

MIAC23

Quote from: emma17 on October 25, 2022, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on October 25, 2022, 09:45:49 AM
Just caught up reading the board. No one can accuse UW-W fans of lacking passion!  But let's relax a little bit guys.  The Hawks didn't beat up your little sister. We lost a football game.  Losing sucks and we will never get used to it. And we don't want to!  Venting is understandable and necessary.  But lest any readers who wander onto the board attach too much significance to what is being posted, we owe it to them to provide some reality.

So, if you are newer to the boards or to UW-W football, these facts are for you.

1. Coach Bullis isn't going anywhere until he chooses.
2. His overall coaching record is 74-12. His WIAC record is 42-4. As in the best conference in the country WIAC.
3. Also for visitors, the cumulative GPA of his players is over 3.0.
4. The graduation rate has increased under his watch.
5. His integrity and character is unquestioned.  I would trust my kid to him in a heartbeat.
6. He has outstanding relationships with players, coaches, other staff at the university, the administration, and the community.
7. He has mentality that we will play anyone at any time.

Our seasons have ended in disappointing fashion over the years or this discussion wouldn't even be happening.  Everyone has a right to their opinion. But the reality is that with all the euphoria of the National Championships, UW-W never wavered from our D-III philosophy.  Coach Bullis does his job the right way. Our AD is a great leader and a good man.  He isn't going to embarrass the university by pretending to be Steve Pederson.

I want to be careful in my response as I'm not advocating for a change. I also agree with your assessment of Coach Bullis' character- I get the feeling his players "would run through a wall for him". 

The game is for and about the players. I don't believe for a millisecond that players choose UWW because they have a burning desire to win the conference. I don't buy any of that.
If players are choosing UWW because they believe they have a legitimate shot at national championships, then the players are being sold short. Yes, UWW got to one Stagg and a couple semis. But UWW lost those games- and in a fashion that leaves some fans wondering as we are now.

I'll repeat. It's all about the offense. The first thing I'd do is require the OC to lock himself in a room for two days and watch game tape of 2013 and 2014. Upon exiting the locked room, the OC had better run an offense that operated exactly as the 2013 and 2014 teams. And no, it has nothing to do with who is playing quarterback.

Oh, that is all you have to do? Why didn't anyone else think of that? Good grief.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: MIAC23 on October 25, 2022, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: emma17 on October 25, 2022, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on October 25, 2022, 09:45:49 AM
Just caught up reading the board. No one can accuse UW-W fans of lacking passion!  But let's relax a little bit guys.  The Hawks didn't beat up your little sister. We lost a football game.  Losing sucks and we will never get used to it. And we don't want to!  Venting is understandable and necessary.  But lest any readers who wander onto the board attach too much significance to what is being posted, we owe it to them to provide some reality.

So, if you are newer to the boards or to UW-W football, these facts are for you.

1. Coach Bullis isn't going anywhere until he chooses.
2. His overall coaching record is 74-12. His WIAC record is 42-4. As in the best conference in the country WIAC.
3. Also for visitors, the cumulative GPA of his players is over 3.0.
4. The graduation rate has increased under his watch.
5. His integrity and character is unquestioned.  I would trust my kid to him in a heartbeat.
6. He has outstanding relationships with players, coaches, other staff at the university, the administration, and the community.
7. He has mentality that we will play anyone at any time.

Our seasons have ended in disappointing fashion over the years or this discussion wouldn't even be happening.  Everyone has a right to their opinion. But the reality is that with all the euphoria of the National Championships, UW-W never wavered from our D-III philosophy.  Coach Bullis does his job the right way. Our AD is a great leader and a good man.  He isn't going to embarrass the university by pretending to be Steve Pederson.

I want to be careful in my response as I'm not advocating for a change. I also agree with your assessment of Coach Bullis' character- I get the feeling his players "would run through a wall for him". 

The game is for and about the players. I don't believe for a millisecond that players choose UWW because they have a burning desire to win the conference. I don't buy any of that.
If players are choosing UWW because they believe they have a legitimate shot at national championships, then the players are being sold short. Yes, UWW got to one Stagg and a couple semis. But UWW lost those games- and in a fashion that leaves some fans wondering as we are now.

I'll repeat. It's all about the offense. The first thing I'd do is require the OC to lock himself in a room for two days and watch game tape of 2013 and 2014. Upon exiting the locked room, the OC had better run an offense that operated exactly as the 2013 and 2014 teams. And no, it has nothing to do with who is playing quarterback.

Oh, that is all you have to do? Why didn't anyone else think of that? Good grief.

I just assume this is shorthand for "throw more slants."
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Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 25, 2022, 12:38:51 PM
Quote from: MIAC23 on October 25, 2022, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: emma17 on October 25, 2022, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on October 25, 2022, 09:45:49 AM
Just caught up reading the board. No one can accuse UW-W fans of lacking passion!  But let's relax a little bit guys.  The Hawks didn't beat up your little sister. We lost a football game.  Losing sucks and we will never get used to it. And we don't want to!  Venting is understandable and necessary.  But lest any readers who wander onto the board attach too much significance to what is being posted, we owe it to them to provide some reality.

So, if you are newer to the boards or to UW-W football, these facts are for you.

1. Coach Bullis isn't going anywhere until he chooses.
2. His overall coaching record is 74-12. His WIAC record is 42-4. As in the best conference in the country WIAC.
3. Also for visitors, the cumulative GPA of his players is over 3.0.
4. The graduation rate has increased under his watch.
5. His integrity and character is unquestioned.  I would trust my kid to him in a heartbeat.
6. He has outstanding relationships with players, coaches, other staff at the university, the administration, and the community.
7. He has mentality that we will play anyone at any time.

Our seasons have ended in disappointing fashion over the years or this discussion wouldn't even be happening.  Everyone has a right to their opinion. But the reality is that with all the euphoria of the National Championships, UW-W never wavered from our D-III philosophy.  Coach Bullis does his job the right way. Our AD is a great leader and a good man.  He isn't going to embarrass the university by pretending to be Steve Pederson.

I want to be careful in my response as I'm not advocating for a change. I also agree with your assessment of Coach Bullis' character- I get the feeling his players "would run through a wall for him". 

The game is for and about the players. I don't believe for a millisecond that players choose UWW because they have a burning desire to win the conference. I don't buy any of that.
If players are choosing UWW because they believe they have a legitimate shot at national championships, then the players are being sold short. Yes, UWW got to one Stagg and a couple semis. But UWW lost those games- and in a fashion that leaves some fans wondering as we are now.

I'll repeat. It's all about the offense. The first thing I'd do is require the OC to lock himself in a room for two days and watch game tape of 2013 and 2014. Upon exiting the locked room, the OC had better run an offense that operated exactly as the 2013 and 2014 teams. And no, it has nothing to do with who is playing quarterback.

Oh, that is all you have to do? Why didn't anyone else think of that? Good grief.

I just assume this is shorthand for "throw more slants."

   Now that one really did make me laugh out loud.  :)
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bleedpurple

Quote from: Pat Coleman on October 25, 2022, 12:38:51 PM
Quote from: MIAC23 on October 25, 2022, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: emma17 on October 25, 2022, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on October 25, 2022, 09:45:49 AM
Just caught up reading the board. No one can accuse UW-W fans of lacking passion!  But let's relax a little bit guys.  The Hawks didn't beat up your little sister. We lost a football game.  Losing sucks and we will never get used to it. And we don't want to!  Venting is understandable and necessary.  But lest any readers who wander onto the board attach too much significance to what is being posted, we owe it to them to provide some reality.

So, if you are newer to the boards or to UW-W football, these facts are for you.

1. Coach Bullis isn't going anywhere until he chooses.
2. His overall coaching record is 74-12. His WIAC record is 42-4. As in the best conference in the country WIAC.
3. Also for visitors, the cumulative GPA of his players is over 3.0.
4. The graduation rate has increased under his watch.
5. His integrity and character is unquestioned.  I would trust my kid to him in a heartbeat.
6. He has outstanding relationships with players, coaches, other staff at the university, the administration, and the community.
7. He has mentality that we will play anyone at any time.

Our seasons have ended in disappointing fashion over the years or this discussion wouldn't even be happening.  Everyone has a right to their opinion. But the reality is that with all the euphoria of the National Championships, UW-W never wavered from our D-III philosophy.  Coach Bullis does his job the right way. Our AD is a great leader and a good man.  He isn't going to embarrass the university by pretending to be Steve Pederson.

I want to be careful in my response as I'm not advocating for a change. I also agree with your assessment of Coach Bullis' character- I get the feeling his players "would run through a wall for him". 

The game is for and about the players. I don't believe for a millisecond that players choose UWW because they have a burning desire to win the conference. I don't buy any of that.
If players are choosing UWW because they believe they have a legitimate shot at national championships, then the players are being sold short. Yes, UWW got to one Stagg and a couple semis. But UWW lost those games- and in a fashion that leaves some fans wondering as we are now.

I'll repeat. It's all about the offense. The first thing I'd do is require the OC to lock himself in a room for two days and watch game tape of 2013 and 2014. Upon exiting the locked room, the OC had better run an offense that operated exactly as the 2013 and 2014 teams. And no, it has nothing to do with who is playing quarterback.

Oh, that is all you have to do? Why didn't anyone else think of that? Good grief.

I just assume this is shorthand for "throw more slants."

Longhand...Emma makes short stories long.

But then again, I've never been accused of being short-winded myself!

emma17

Quote from: MIAC23 on October 25, 2022, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: emma17 on October 25, 2022, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on October 25, 2022, 09:45:49 AM
Just caught up reading the board. No one can accuse UW-W fans of lacking passion!  But let's relax a little bit guys.  The Hawks didn't beat up your little sister. We lost a football game.  Losing sucks and we will never get used to it. And we don't want to!  Venting is understandable and necessary.  But lest any readers who wander onto the board attach too much significance to what is being posted, we owe it to them to provide some reality.

So, if you are newer to the boards or to UW-W football, these facts are for you.

1. Coach Bullis isn't going anywhere until he chooses.
2. His overall coaching record is 74-12. His WIAC record is 42-4. As in the best conference in the country WIAC.
3. Also for visitors, the cumulative GPA of his players is over 3.0.
4. The graduation rate has increased under his watch.
5. His integrity and character is unquestioned.  I would trust my kid to him in a heartbeat.
6. He has outstanding relationships with players, coaches, other staff at the university, the administration, and the community.
7. He has mentality that we will play anyone at any time.

Our seasons have ended in disappointing fashion over the years or this discussion wouldn't even be happening.  Everyone has a right to their opinion. But the reality is that with all the euphoria of the National Championships, UW-W never wavered from our D-III philosophy.  Coach Bullis does his job the right way. Our AD is a great leader and a good man.  He isn't going to embarrass the university by pretending to be Steve Pederson.

I want to be careful in my response as I'm not advocating for a change. I also agree with your assessment of Coach Bullis' character- I get the feeling his players "would run through a wall for him". 

The game is for and about the players. I don't believe for a millisecond that players choose UWW because they have a burning desire to win the conference. I don't buy any of that.
If players are choosing UWW because they believe they have a legitimate shot at national championships, then the players are being sold short. Yes, UWW got to one Stagg and a couple semis. But UWW lost those games- and in a fashion that leaves some fans wondering as we are now.

I'll repeat. It's all about the offense. The first thing I'd do is require the OC to lock himself in a room for two days and watch game tape of 2013 and 2014. Upon exiting the locked room, the OC had better run an offense that operated exactly as the 2013 and 2014 teams. And no, it has nothing to do with who is playing quarterback.

Oh, that is all you have to do? Why didn't anyone else think of that? Good grief.

Good grief is right. Perhaps you have an explanation as to why the offense has struggled so much on the biggest stage?

criswyly

Sounds to me that Bullis has already proven to be an excellent coach....however, I am not a fan of the UWW machine.  Glad to see it breakdown (a little) for a change so we know they are at least
human. ::)  No tears for the Warhawk faithful coming from here.  Already looking forward to the next UWW loss.  However, I am not willing to bet when that will be. 8-)
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Quote from: 02 Warhawk on October 25, 2022, 12:32:09 PM
Quote from: emma17 on October 25, 2022, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on October 25, 2022, 09:45:49 AM
Just caught up reading the board. No one can accuse UW-W fans of lacking passion!  But let's relax a little bit guys.  The Hawks didn't beat up your little sister. We lost a football game.  Losing sucks and we will never get used to it. And we don't want to!  Venting is understandable and necessary.  But lest any readers who wander onto the board attach too much significance to what is being posted, we owe it to them to provide some reality.

So, if you are newer to the boards or to UW-W football, these facts are for you.

1. Coach Bullis isn't going anywhere until he chooses.
2. His overall coaching record is 74-12. His WIAC record is 42-4. As in the best conference in the country WIAC.
3. Also for visitors, the cumulative GPA of his players is over 3.0.
4. The graduation rate has increased under his watch.
5. His integrity and character is unquestioned.  I would trust my kid to him in a heartbeat.
6. He has outstanding relationships with players, coaches, other staff at the university, the administration, and the community.
7. He has mentality that we will play anyone at any time.

Our seasons have ended in disappointing fashion over the years or this discussion wouldn't even be happening.  Everyone has a right to their opinion. But the reality is that with all the euphoria of the National Championships, UW-W never wavered from our D-III philosophy.  Coach Bullis does his job the right way. Our AD is a great leader and a good man.  He isn't going to embarrass the university by pretending to be Steve Pederson.

I want to be careful in my response as I'm not advocating for a change. I also agree with your assessment of Coach Bullis' character- I get the feeling his players "would run through a wall for him". 

The game is for and about the players. I don't believe for a millisecond that players choose UWW because they have a burning desire to win the conference. I don't buy any of that.
If players are choosing UWW because they believe they have a legitimate shot at national championships, then the players are being sold short. Yes, UWW got to one Stagg and a couple semis. But UWW lost those games- and in a fashion that leaves some fans wondering as we are now.


I'll repeat. It's all about the offense. The first thing I'd do is require the OC to lock himself in a room for two days and watch game tape of 2013 and 2014. Upon exiting the locked room, the OC had better run an offense that operated exactly as the 2013 and 2014 teams. And no, it has nothing to do with who is playing quarterback.

I think this is fair. I'm not familiar at all with team's recruiting process - specifically their on-campus visits - but I'm willing to bet the coaching staff makes sure the recruit takes notice of their national championship trophies. Highly insinuating that this is the caliber of program you'll be coming to play for.

Not sure to what extent this is done on the FB side, but on the basketball side it's a fairly common occurrence. A kid will visit campus early in the school year during the open gym phase before formal practice starts on 10/15. They'll play with the team guys and afterwards pose alone and/or with the coach(es) for what now seems the almost mandatory Twitter picture. Often the coach will have the recruit put on one of the school's uniforms for the pic (free Twitter publicity) and if the particular school has any conference or national tournament trophies around they'll have the recruit hold it for the picture.
And, why not do this. As the above poster said, it publicizes the institution's upper level status and plants the idea in the recruit's head that he has a chance to join a championship level program.
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MIAC Champions: '32, '35, '36, '38, '53, '62, '63, '65, '71, '74, '75, '76, '77, '79, '82, '85, '89, '91, '93, '94, '95, '96, '98, '99, '01, '02, '03, '05, '06, '08, '09, '14, '18, '19, '21, '22, '24
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TheChucker

On the UWW dynasty comments...

Don't forget that UWW doesn't exist in bubble. The beast that is UMHB (and now maybe North Central) wasn't as dominant nationally prior to 2015. This year's inconsistency aside, it could be that some competition has found ways to catch up to UWW.   

fredfalcon

To all who think Coach Bullis should lose his job, UWRF Coach Matt Walker says: "They're crazy".
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colinsteinke

#48851
Quote from: emma17 on October 25, 2022, 11:59:09 PM
Quote from: MIAC23 on October 25, 2022, 12:36:31 PM
Quote from: emma17 on October 25, 2022, 12:22:44 PM
Quote from: bleedpurple on October 25, 2022, 09:45:49 AM
Just caught up reading the board. No one can accuse UW-W fans of lacking passion!  But let's relax a little bit guys.  The Hawks didn't beat up your little sister. We lost a football game.  Losing sucks and we will never get used to it. And we don't want to!  Venting is understandable and necessary.  But lest any readers who wander onto the board attach too much significance to what is being posted, we owe it to them to provide some reality.

So, if you are newer to the boards or to UW-W football, these facts are for you.

1. Coach Bullis isn't going anywhere until he chooses.
2. His overall coaching record is 74-12. His WIAC record is 42-4. As in the best conference in the country WIAC.
3. Also for visitors, the cumulative GPA of his players is over 3.0.
4. The graduation rate has increased under his watch.
5. His integrity and character is unquestioned.  I would trust my kid to him in a heartbeat.
6. He has outstanding relationships with players, coaches, other staff at the university, the administration, and the community.
7. He has mentality that we will play anyone at any time.

Our seasons have ended in disappointing fashion over the years or this discussion wouldn't even be happening.  Everyone has a right to their opinion. But the reality is that with all the euphoria of the National Championships, UW-W never wavered from our D-III philosophy.  Coach Bullis does his job the right way. Our AD is a great leader and a good man.  He isn't going to embarrass the university by pretending to be Steve Pederson.

I want to be careful in my response as I'm not advocating for a change. I also agree with your assessment of Coach Bullis' character- I get the feeling his players "would run through a wall for him". 

The game is for and about the players. I don't believe for a millisecond that players choose UWW because they have a burning desire to win the conference. I don't buy any of that.
If players are choosing UWW because they believe they have a legitimate shot at national championships, then the players are being sold short. Yes, UWW got to one Stagg and a couple semis. But UWW lost those games- and in a fashion that leaves some fans wondering as we are now.

I'll repeat. It's all about the offense. The first thing I'd do is require the OC to lock himself in a room for two days and watch game tape of 2013 and 2014. Upon exiting the locked room, the OC had better run an offense that operated exactly as the 2013 and 2014 teams. And no, it has nothing to do with who is playing quarterback.

Oh, that is all you have to do? Why didn't anyone else think of that? Good grief.

Good grief is right. Perhaps you have an explanation as to why the offense has struggled so much on the biggest stage?

It's a good question. I thought it was Jennings (and given UWO's offensive showing against UWW, maybe I was right), but I was also highly skeptical of the hire for this year, too.

Remember, though, that 2013 and 2014 had a few players that, while UWW is talented now, are not near that level. It's hard to replace Behrendt and Kumerow, even if you scheme it the same now.

I will agree, though, that somehow we've had crazy talent in the last few years and seem to just squander it when it matters. Whether it's not being able to choose between QBs, never throwing the ball to Wiz, or just overall not being able to call plays in big spots, (UMHB game not withstanding), something is missing. Maybe it's not Bullis. But he hires the guys who call these plays and prepare these players.

emma17

#48852
colinsteinke- i think we are on the same page with this. Bullis has struggled to hire the right type of OC for UWW-and I think it's becuase he's not an offense guy. Although i'm always in favor of more slant routes, the absolute most glaring change since LL/Kotelnicki/Zebrowski left is this:
Moved away from motion.
Moved away from pre-snap shifting.
Moved away from intermittent hurry-up offense.

Kotelnicki implements what he calls "disruption", and he does it in many ways and he does it with a purpose.
I have no facts to base this on, but i believe to some degree, each of the last three OC's came to UWW thinking "candyland" with the offensive line. All they had to do was call the play, break the huddle, walk to the line of scrimmage the UWW's big dogs would do their thing. It doesn't work that way against better opponents, because even with lesser size/talent, DC's can scheme against a static offense.
Now, add motion and shifting to an offense with size and talent, and it Disrupts the defense, causing them to momentarily have to think about alignment and assignment, which is just enough to every now and then create a gap where there wouldn't have been one otherwise. Add some sporadic hurry up and now you're disrupting even more.   

If anyone has actual interest in this, watch a podcast from Kotelnicki or watch a Kansas game.

For a playoff team, the biggest game of the year is the last game: Since LL/Kotelnick left:
Points scored in UWW's final playoff game:
2015:  6 vs Mt
2016:  14 vs John Carrol
2018:  14 vs UMHB
2019:  14 vs NCC
2021:  7 vs UMHB

The last playoff games prior to 2015
2014:  43
2013:  52
2011:  13 (won 13-10)
2010:  31
2009:  38

You get the picture.

D3fanboy

despite UWW's apparent ineptitude on offense, no team within 500 miles of Whitewater, WI is going to be very stoked to play the Warhawks in the playoffs

WIACer

Winning is difficult in WIAC. Bullis is a very good coach. Watching them play UWRF it is pretty clear. WW put up 10 points to close out half that maybe could have been prevented. Interesting to see 2nd half.