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ncc_fan

UWP discounts tuition for Illinois and Iowa residents.  The discounted rate isn't as low as the in-state or Minnesota reciprocity rate, but it's attractive. 

bleedpurple

Quote from: retagent on December 16, 2022, 10:45:39 PM
As long as you're talking recruiting - UWW's success has been a positive for recruiting in the Chicago/No Illinois area. Will NCC's rise to prominence hurt that a bit?

No doubt. And I'm sure it already has.  But there is a LOT of good talent in that area.

carletonknights

Quote from: 02 Warhawk on December 16, 2022, 11:05:51 PM
Quote from: TheChucker on December 16, 2022, 10:52:52 PM
Quote from: retagent on December 16, 2022, 10:45:39 PM
As long as you're talking recruiting - UWW's success has been a positive for recruiting in the Chicago/No Illinois area. Will NCC's rise to prominence hurt that a bit?

Do Wisconsin and Illinois have public school tuition reciprocity? If so, UWW probably holds a clear edge there.

No. Illinois kids pay out of state tuition to go to WIAC schools. Always have. I think some have reciprocity to MN, though.



Not to MIAC schools since they're all private colleges. But UofM does with WI.


WarhawkDad

Quote from: retagent on December 16, 2022, 10:45:39 PM
As long as you're talking recruiting - UWW's success has been a positive for recruiting in the Chicago/No Illinois area. Will NCC's rise to prominence hurt that a bit?
I'm my opinion, it already has.  Private school with "merit scholarships" in prime
Chicago suburban recruiting area.  So many of UWW championship players came from Chicago suburbs.  Definitely having a second DIII power in your recruiting area cuts into your recruiting success ratio.

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badgerwarhawk

I have no doubt NCC's rise to prominence has already had an impact on our recruiting.  I don't see how it can't. 

Some UW system schools have reciprocity with Illinois.  UW-WHITEWATER has chosen not to participate.  Frankly, we already get a lot of Illinois students and we need the money. Wisconsin has three agreements.  The oldest is the one with Minnesota.  UW-Platteville is another with Iowa and Illinois.  The third agreement allows students from seven mid-western states to attend and pay no more than 150% of the state resident tuition.  Approximately 18,000 students attend Wisconsin schools at discounted rates.  The whole thing has been somewhat of a political issue as only about 9000 Wisconsin students participate costing taxpayers who subsidize the difference.
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Ralph Turner

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on December 17, 2022, 11:08:00 AM
I have no doubt NCC's rise to prominence has already had an impact on our recruiting.  I don't see how it can't. 

Some UW system schools have reciprocity with Illinois.  UW-WHITEWATER has chosen not to participate.  Frankly, we already get a lot of Illinois students and we need the money. Wisconsin has three agreements.  The oldest is the one with Minnesota.  UW-Platteville is another with Iowa and Illinois.  The third agreement allows students from seven mid-western states to attend and pay no more than 150% of the state resident tuition.  Approximately 18,000 students attend Wisconsin schools at discounted rates.  The whole thing has been somewhat of a political issue as only about 9000 Wisconsin students participate costing taxpayers who subsidize the difference.
Thanks for the information. That prompts a few more questions.

Does the revenue from each of the 9,000 non-Wisconsin students cover the variable costs of having another pupil attending that university?

Would having fewer students in the various universities cause a particular university to discontinue a course of study and let go those professors and administrative staff?

badgerwarhawk

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Quote from: Ralph Turner on December 18, 2022, 06:44:20 PM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on December 17, 2022, 11:08:00 AM
I have no doubt NCC's rise to prominence has already had an impact on our recruiting.  I don't see how it can't. 

Some UW system schools have reciprocity with Illinois.  UW-WHITEWATER has chosen not to participate.  Frankly, we already get a lot of Illinois students and we need the money. Wisconsin has three agreements.  The oldest is the one with Minnesota.  UW-Platteville is another with Iowa and Illinois.  The third agreement allows students from seven mid-western states to attend and pay no more than 150% of the state resident tuition.  Approximately 18,000 students attend Wisconsin schools at discounted rates.  The whole thing has been somewhat of a political issue as only about 9000 Wisconsin students participate costing taxpayers who subsidize the difference.
Thanks for the information. That prompts a few more questions.

Does the revenue from each of the 9,000 non-Wisconsin students cover the variable costs of having another pupil attending that university?

Would having fewer students in the various universities cause a particular university to discontinue a course of study and let go those professors and administrative staff?


1. Sorry, no clue.  Not even sure I understand the question.  But I'm not involved in any manner so I wouldn't matter if I was.

2. I know there has been discussion at Stevens Point to discontinue 13 majors in the Humanities and Social Sciences due to declining enrollment and a significant budget deficit.  Apparently the plan included adding majors that provided "clear career pathways."  That was a few years ago and I believe some were discontinued and some were not.  I don't know if any were added.  I'm not aware of any others but most of them are dealing with financial issues and declining enrollment.  No idea what happens to the administrative staff or professors.  Both are state employees with contracts so I imagine that has something to do with it. 
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emma17

BW- another question for you.

If a train left New York at 300 miles per hour, and accelerated speed 15 miles per hour, and traveled a distance of 683 miles, tell me sir: what time would that train reach Chicago?!

Ralph Turner

Quote from: emma17 on December 19, 2022, 01:43:43 AM
BW- another question for you.

If a train left New York at 300 miles per hour, and accelerated speed 15 miles per hour, and traveled a distance of 683 miles, tell me sir: what time would that train reach Chicago?!
When did the train start?  ;)
Quick and dirty answer would be 2 hours and 8 minutes to make the trip.

badgerwarhawk

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Quote from: emma17 on December 19, 2022, 01:43:43 AM
BW- another question for you.

If a train left New York at 300 miles per hour, and accelerated speed 15 miles per hour, and traveled a distance of 683 miles, tell me sir: what time would that train reach Chicago?!

He asks a one-eyed fat man who had to take a basic math class in college because he didn't have enough high school math credits...too funny  ;D ;)

Question for you:  3rd and 7, slant or post?
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palum

Congratulations to the 4 WIAC players who made the D3 Football.com All American Team
1st Team
Ryan Liska LB Whitewater
Mike Brown CB River Falls
2nd Team
Seth Roberts G Whitewater
Mike Berota T La Crosse
3rd Team
Justin Blazek DE Platteville

SpartanHouse4

I'd probably push back against most everything that's been posted about WW not showing more urgency on a HC hire.

Yes they have an interim HC and coaches on the road but how can they sell the program from coaches who most likely won't even be at WW in a month?

While there is no signing day in division three, whitewater recruits do get scholarship offers so signing day is a big deal for WW and top tier D3 programs. How can a kid pick WW over a scholarship offer if they don't even know who the WW staff will be?

The new coach might come in and not like what the recruiting board looks like and not like the commits he has. Then what?

Transfer portal? No time for that this year.

Is the AD a former football coach?

SpartanHouse4

Also, Bullis announced his retirement a few days after the game. The AD didn't know he was gonna do that? Don't buy that.

Or the AD knew he was going to force him out if a short playoff run. If the case he should have have a plan to hire a coach quickly in place.

BoBo

Quote from: SpartanHouse4 on December 19, 2022, 10:51:32 PM
Also, Bullis announced his retirement a few days after the game. The AD didn't know he was gonna do that? Don't buy that.

Or the AD knew he was going to force him out if a short playoff run. If the case he should have have a plan to hire a coach quickly in place.

People in the know have already stated here it's not a surprise Bullis was going to retire after the season.

There are Wisconsin state hiring laws that make immediate filling of state jobs impossible, especially a job that wasn't even vacated until he announced his retirement. You obviously don't understand how that all works.
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emma17

Quote from: badgerwarhawk on December 19, 2022, 10:02:46 AM
Quote from: emma17 on December 19, 2022, 01:43:43 AM
BW- another question for you.

If a train left New York at 300 miles per hour, and accelerated speed 15 miles per hour, and traveled a distance of 683 miles, tell me sir: what time would that train reach Chicago?!

He asks a one-eyed fat man who had to take a basic math class in college because he didn't have enough high school math credits...too funny  ;D ;)

Question for you:  3rd and 7, slant or post?

Ha!
Love the options- depends on D. Remember the 2014 Stagg Bowl. First series of game, first 3rd down conversion attempt. Post to one of my all time favorite WR's- Justin Howard for the first down. They ran the same play for the touchdown later.
In between, there were beautiful slant routes to Kumerow.
In those days, UWW knew who their top guys were and they threw to them, especially in crunch time.