FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[02 Warhawk]

Think they said it occured after the play.

[timmyturtle]

That and it occurred on 4th down which meant possession had changed, any other down and its first down game over

[emma17]

That and it occurred on 4th down which meant possession had changed, any other down and its first down game over

I see. I was babysitting our 2 1/2 year old granddaughters and didn't see the whole play (I was probably distracted by Elmo on the middle screen). I assumed the targeting was part of the tackle itself, which I assume would then be automatic first down. As I think of it, Ogden gave himself up, so as soon as he does that (begins process of the slide), the play must be over? Even if a defender yanked his face mask, as long as he began the process of the slide on fourth down, there isn't an automatic first down. If it was a face mask rather than a targeting, would a penalty be assessed to the defense (now the offense)?

[KitchenSink]

It was called a foul after the play. Since the play was ruled over short of the line to gain, possession changed at that time. A subsequent foul is assessed AFTER the change of possession.

[GBMAN]

The radio broadcasters mentioned the Wheaton offense was probably the best offense Whitewater had faced all year.. I will leave those that watch the games  decide.

[02 Warhawk]

The radio broadcasters mentioned the Wheaton offense was probably the best offense Whitewater had faced all year.. I will leave those that watch the games  decide.

No question about that. I would definitely agreed.

[emma17]

The radio broadcasters mentioned the Wheaton offense was probably the best offense Whitewater had faced all year.. I will leave those that watch the games  decide.

To me, Wheaton and UWL are both really tough- I think UWL may be a bit tougher due to their QB's running skills.

[USee]

Wheaton's offense was ranked #9 nationally before Saturday and UWW's defense was #41. On the other side UWW's offense was ranked around #11 and Wheaton's defense was ranked around #90. The result shouldn't have been a surprise to most and these two offenses is what we all should have been talking about before the game. UWW's aggressive defense is good until they go against people who have no problem beating man to man and a QB who throws it on time and on target. Ben Bonga caught 8 passes for 2 TD's (both great routes) on about 11 targets almost all of which were while being covered by Hein. Wheaton did play a different defensive front than they had showed all year, employing a 5th DL which led to a few of the stops they were able to generate.

Tamir Thomas is special. He is a football player and his performance was tremendous. The UWW OL was dominant as expected. Ogden, if more consistent, would be absolutely elite. He throws a beautiful deep ball to Coates on the first long TD and then comes back and absolutely misses 2-3 wide open guys. he needs to tighten up his mechanics and he'll be able to add to his already multi talented skill set.

I thought the 2nd half play where UWW ran the punt team off and the offense back on was a brilliant tactic and I was yelling at my screen "They want you to burn a timeout! Don't do it!" (Hey Pat, Rindahl said in the presser they were 100% going for it if Wheaton didn't use a timeout).

Great college football game. Next week is a very different set of matchups for UWW and Wartburg. I think one of UWW's strengths is their ability to adjust to different styles (an offensive game, a defensive battle, etc) so they seem well suited for what will be the best defense they have faced.

[bleedpurple]

The radio broadcasters mentioned the Wheaton offense was probably the best offense Whitewater had faced all year.. I will leave those that watch the games  decide.

To me, Wheaton and UWL are both really tough- I think UWL may be a bit tougher due to their QB's running skills.

I agree both are really strong offenses. IMO, Wheaton gets the edge because of Weeks. He is an elite RB. It's only my opinion, but I think Weeks is so good he more than makes up for Helterbrand. Plus the Wheaton receivers are better. Bonga is All-American caliber. #83 is D-1 transfer and #11 is really good, too. While I agree they might be somewhat close due to Helterbrand, I've got to give it to Wheaton. They are an elite offense.  To USee's point, combine the Wheaton offense with the Wartburg defense and you would have a team that can compete with NCC. To beat them, you simply have to have both.

[emma17]

No doubt Wheaton's receiver trio is the real deal.
The thing about Helterbrand is he's so tough to stop from getting short yardage when needed.
Studer is a stud receiver but not sure he has enough help.

This is not meant as a slight to Thorson/Wheaton.
I've now seen Thorson play twice and I've seen six dropped interceptions. UWW dropped what looked like a pick 6 (didn't see replay so I won't bet house on it), plus another on an out-route plus the low ball that was or wasn't. I said before QB's need luck from butter fingered defenders, but if those are picked, both games are very different.
I fully agree Thorson is an awesome QB, but he's had some tremendous luck these last two games.

[USee]

Luck goes both ways Emma. 3 balls were deflected In the air by the Wheaton Def and fell harmlessly to the ground. If any of those are picked, it's also a very different game. Egon Hein's INT was pure luck that it bounced off a WR hands right to him. Probably about a dozen other plays that involved a lot of luck. The reality is Thorson got the ball out, on time, and on target to talented WR's and threw for 402 yds. None of that was luck. I thought of you on a number of the Wheaton slant routes. While there were a significant number of lucky plays on both sides, this game was dominated by highly skilled players on both sides making plays and that's where my congratulations goes. Gallaghers "almost pick 6" would have been a heroic INT and a phenomenal catch if he pulled it off. Certainly was at least one drop on the out route and on the "low" INT the line judge, with the best view, was immediately adamant it hit the ground.

[emma17]

USee- the Wheaton receivers have the full package- quicks, route running and hands. Those guys running slants vs man is nearly automatic w a QB as accurate as Thorson.

Speaking of dropped interceptions- Watching Bears tonight (ouch) and Bears corner Jaylon Johnson dropped a pick six. Troy Aikman was quick to point out this is now two consecutive games Jaylon dropped a sure pick six.

[bleedpurple]

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[emma17]

Great article, Bleed. All season it's looked like this UWW team doesn't panic.
Last week after the game Coach Rindahl was interviewed. The interviewer asked Coach about the pressure of the playoffs. Coach Rindahl responded "pressure is for tires".

I've no idea what will happen w the Wartburg game, but as a UWW fan, I'm comforted knowing the team has prevailed through so many big games/games in jeopardy/opponents with better statistics in this area and that area.

[02 Warhawk]

Might be fair to say Wartburg's defense will be a step up (or two) from Wheaton's. However, no chance their offense will be that of Wheaton's, which is good.

Also being that this game is in Iowa, I think this is a coin flip game as far as who wins.