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Kilted Rat

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Quote from: ritz72 on November 22, 2005, 01:17:52 PM
Quote from: 1_For_27 on November 22, 2005, 01:16:05 PM
Geez, cut beaver a break the kid is a genitic freak.  So what if he lacks a neck,  he is probably gonna be an all american,  ohh and for u johnnies just get ready for dinkle's o-line, if I know him like I think I do, he is going to have those HOGS ready to kill johnnie red!!! Go Hawks!!!!

Sad thing is, HOGS can never catch the chickens running around the barnyard.... ;)


watch out ritz,

even a blind pig gets an acorned once in a while.. ;)
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TC

Well, let's take a look at just the "good" teams then, shall we?

                                Score     Rushing      Passing     Total
Eau Claire                   28            5               237          242
Bethel                          9            137             51           188
Concordia                   16            98             117          215
St. Olaf                        9            168            157          325
Monmouth                   3             -3              118          115

TOTAL (AVG)               13            81             136          217

Am I being too generous counting Bethel?  Maybe.  Monmouth?  I dunno, they were an undefeated playoff team.  Regardless, I think I left the hapless teams out.  I would argue that 13 ppg and 217 ypg qualifies the SJU defense as one of the top handful in the nation.          
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finsleft

Quote from: TC on November 22, 2005, 01:57:29 PM
Well, let's take a look at just the "good" teams then, shall we?

                                Score     Rushing      Passing     Total
Eau Claire                   28            5               237          242
Bethel                          9            137             51           188
Concordia                   16            98             117          215
St. Olaf                        9            168            157          325
Monmouth                   3             -3              118          115

TOTAL (AVG)               13            81             136          217

Am I being too generous counting Bethel?  Maybe.  Monmouth?  I dunno, they were an undefeated playoff team.  Regardless, I think I left the hapless teams out.  I would argue that 13 ppg and 217 ypg qualifies the SJU defense as one of the top handful in the nation.          

Then, if you discount the bad case of the punting yips (i.e. the Eau Claire game).....?"

Kilted Rat

So I decided to do some quick research as to how "weak" the Division III offenses that SJU played were in order to "exaggerate" their stats.

Here are SJU's opponents and their respective points per game:

UWEC              22.1
Northwestern  35.2... don't say a thing about SJU playing NWC until you remember UWW played Lakeland
Car                  17.8
GAC                 16.4
Ham                 15.1
Bethel              24.2
Concordia        33.6
Augsburg         17.7
St. Olaf             40.8
UST                  26.6
Monmouth       40.6

SJU's opponents combined to average 26.4 ppg


Here are UWW's opponents and their respective points per game.
SNC                     38.1
St. Xavier (NAIA) 32.75
Lakeland             35.5
UWEC                  22.1
SP                       18.8
LAX                      26.4
Platteville            19.1
Oshkosh             24.5
Stout                  27.5
River falls           20.0
Central               27.6

UWW's opponents combined to average 26.6 ppg

FINAL SCORE: SJU's opponents 26.4  UWW's opponents 26.6

Yep, SJU played a much easier offensive schedule.... by a whole 0.2 ppg


FYI: SJU averaged giving up 11.2 ppg, while UWW gave up 14.2. So, SJU held their opponents an average of 15.2 ppg below their average while UWW held their opponents an average of 12.2 ppg below their average.
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kubiack78

This is UWW def. stats after taking out the above mentioned "bad " teams  


                                        pts.       rush yd.        pass yds.         total

ST. XAVIER UNIVERSIT         20            30                 286                316

UW-EAU CLAIRE.......            7              64                 169                233

UW-La Crosse........             23             64                  391               455  

UW-OSHKOSH..........             7              89                 185                274

UW-Stout............                10              44                  119              163

CENTRAL COLLEGE (IA)        14              79                  163              242

     
                                         13.5            61.6                218.8            280.5



ritz72

Quote from: desertcat1 on November 22, 2005, 01:53:39 PM
Quote from: ritz72 on November 22, 2005, 01:17:52 PM
Quote from: 1_For_27 on November 22, 2005, 01:16:05 PM
Geez, cut beaver a break the kid is a genitic freak.  So what if he lacks a neck,  he is probably gonna be an all american,  ohh and for u johnnies just get ready for dinkle's o-line, if I know him like I think I do, he is going to have those HOGS ready to kill johnnie red!!! Go Hawks!!!!

Sad thing is, HOGS can never catch the chickens running around the barnyard.... ;)


watch out ritz,

even a blind pig gets an acorned once in a while.. ;)

Good thing I'm talking about chickens then isn't it!! ;)
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Kilted Rat

Kubiak,
Here's the comparison between what you and TC put up.


           Pts allowed       Rush yrds          Pass yrds        Total yards
SJU      13                         81                   136                   217

UWW  13.5                     61.6                218.8                 280.5


So SJU's defense is still better in big games.


Still waiting on Pat's response...... cue crickets.
Now accepting new patients. All bills must be paid in scotch shortly after any services rendered.  Sorry TDT, no problems below the waist.


Discovered by the Germans in 1904, they named it San Diego, which of course in German means a whale's vagina.

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Quote from: DuffMan on November 22, 2005, 09:52:46 AM
FF413 and Kubiak,
I just raised you both a notch for intelligent, respectful posts :-*

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kubiack78

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Quote from: kiltedrat on November 22, 2005, 02:43:22 PM
Kubiak,
Here's the comparison between what you and TC put up.


           Pts allowed       Rush yrds          Pass yrds        Total yards
SJU      13                         81                   136                   217

UWW  13.5                     61.6                218.8                 280.5


So SJU's defense is still better in big games.


Still waiting on Pat's response...... cue crickets.


One comment to add  UW-L outgained WW in their game 455-427 but Hawks still won.  That game inflates the average a bit.

In the end you can throw all these stats out the window ;)

ritz72

Quote from: kiltedrat on November 22, 2005, 02:43:22 PM
Kubiak,
Here's the comparison between what you and TC put up.


           Pts allowed       Rush yrds          Pass yrds        Total yards
SJU      13                         81                   136                   217

UWW  13.5                     61.6                218.8                 280.5


So SJU's defense is still better in big games.


Still waiting on Pat's response...... cue crickets.

Here they are!!
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