FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[badgerwarhawk]

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D-III honors a D-I redshirt as a national rule. Some conferences may choose to restrict their schools from doing so, the MIAC being a notable example, but D-III as a whole recognizes them.

Thank you, Pat.  Once again you are the man.   8)

[Pat Coleman]

Freeman is fast. http://www.uwbadgers.com/sport_news/fb/bios/bio.aspx?id=Freeman_Antonio_fb&sport=fb

Thanks for the link, Flash.   It says he's a Junior but redshirted in 2004.

Pat, I was wondering.....  If a player redshirts at the D1 level, does that count as a year of eligibility at the D3 level or will D3 accept the redshirt year without it using any of his eligibility?  I guess what I'm asking is if Freeman transferred to D3 would he have one or two years of eligibility remaining? 

D-III honors a D-I redshirt as a national rule. Some conferences may choose to restrict their schools from doing so, the MIAC being a notable example, but D-III as a whole recognizes them.

Why does the MIAC have a stick up its butt?  They have a lot of, what seems, unnecessary rules.  No spring practice, can't honor D-1 redshirt (as if there is a tsunami wave of d-1 transfers pounding down the doors to get into the MIAC), etc.  I just don't get it.

They didn't honor D-III redshirts either.

And yes, you are wrong about spring practice.

I think the Midwest Conference is more restrictive than the MIAC, frankly. The MIAC just has a redshirt policy that it is very consistent on.

[Ralph Turner]

This may be a breaking news story.  I believe that the Management council has just changed the definition of in-region to include the geographic regions as defined in D-III Bylaw 4.12.1.1.

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=3880.msg519261#msg519261

WIAC vs. "Texas" is now in-region!

[footballfan413]

This may be a breaking news story.  I believe that the Management council has just changed the definition of in-region to include the geographic regions as defined in D-III Bylaw 4.12.1.1.

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=3880.msg519261#msg519261

WIAC vs. "Texas" is now in-region!

You have to be kidding me!!!!  Please correct me if I am wrong but what this means is that when UWW flys to Texas to play Mary Harding-Baylor next October, a win there for either team will not count as an "out-of region," win which is used in determining post season seedings and rankings!!  Region 4 looks redicules.  Texas playing Alaska isn't "out- of-region" either while New York and Pennsylvania can play teams from any of the other 48 states and they will be considered "out-of-region games!!   

[KennethK]

Looking at the WW scores from last year's conference games, it appears that only the LX game was in doubt.  Should the same be expected in 06?

[Pat Coleman]

This may be a breaking news story.  I believe that the Management council has just changed the definition of in-region to include the geographic regions as defined in D-III Bylaw 4.12.1.1.

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=3880.msg519261#msg519261

WIAC vs. "Texas" is now in-region!

You have to be kidding me!!!!  Please correct me if I am wrong but what this means is that when UWW flys to Texas to play Mary Harding-Baylor next October, a win there for either team will not count as an "out-of region," win which is used in determining post season seedings and rankings!!  Region 4 looks redicules.  Texas playing Alaska isn't "out- of-region" either while New York and Pennsylvania can play teams from any of the other 48 states and they will be considered "out-of-region games!!   

A little concept of how many schools are in each area of Division III might help you here. Those four regions contain a pretty equal number of schools.

Pennsylvania schools in the East region can still play any other Division III football East region teams, as well as anyone within 200 miles, and have it count as in-region.

[Sakman 1111]

kENNETH K.----The Warhawks on paper look better than last year. Two weak spots are the kicking game and defensive backs--- if they can fill those holes and stay comparatively healthy they will be better than last year. The offense certainly will be stronger----Offensive line which was very good only lost one player. They are still strong at QB,RB,WR's and Tight End. Defensive line and linebackers are almost in tact----Should be tough at safeties but need DB's. Recruitment class looks large and talented. Even with the target on their backs the Warhawks will be a very difficult team to beat....

[footballfan413]

This may be a breaking news story.  I believe that the Management council has just changed the definition of in-region to include the geographic regions as defined in D-III Bylaw 4.12.1.1.

http://www.d3sports.com/post/index.php?topic=3880.msg519261#msg519261

WIAC vs. "Texas" is now in-region!

You have to be kidding me!!!!  Please correct me if I am wrong but what this means is that when UWW flys to Texas to play Mary Harding-Baylor next October, a win there for either team will not count as an "out-of region," win which is used in determining post season seedings and rankings!!  Region 4 looks redicules.  Texas playing Alaska isn't "out- of-region" either while New York and Pennsylvania can play teams from any of the other 48 states and they will be considered "out-of-region games!!   

A little concept of how many schools are in each area of Division III might help you here. Those four regions contain a pretty equal number of schools.

Pennsylvania schools in the East region can still play any other Division III football East region teams, as well as anyone within 200 miles, and have it count as in-region.

Without having a map of D-3 schools in front of me, I was pretty sure that the actual number of D-3 schools per state was much more balanced than this list implied.  However, Region 4 does look, geographically, like it was painted with a broad brush, doesn't it?  So Pennsyvania schools just have to take a 3 hour bus ride and travel 201 miles to pad their schedules with "out-of-region," teams while some schools in Region 4 can pay for expensive air travel, fly across the country and still not have that benefit.

[Pat Coleman]

Like the Division III football West Region? There are two states in Division III's Region 4 that do not have teams in the Division III football West Region: Texas and Missouri.

[KennethK]

kENNETH K.----The Warhawks on paper look better than last year. Two weak spots are the kicking game and defensive backs--- if they can fill those holes and stay comparatively healthy they will be better than last year. The offense certainly will be stronger----Offensive line which was very good only lost one player. They are still strong at QB,RB,WR's and Tight End. Defensive line and linebackers are almost in tact----Should be tough at safeties but need DB's. Recruitment class looks large and talented. Even with the target on their backs the Warhawks will be a very difficult team to beat....

So which WIAC teams will provide the toughest competition?

[footballfan413]

Like the Division III football West Region? There are two states in Division III's Region 4 that do not have teams in the Division III football West Region: Texas and Missouri.

The geographic make up of the West Region is just as crazy.  Wisconsin and some Illinois teams in the same region as Oregon and California?  Doesn't make a lot of sense either, IMHO!  But as always, I bow to your expertise in these matters, Pat!  Must be a complicated system to organize and to try and be fair for everyone. 

[Ralph Turner]

Footballfan, the bylaws outline the regions for administration and representation purposes.

The specific use of these Geographic Regions was made at the top levels to apply to all of the sports administered by the NCAA, not just football.  UW-Platteville's basketball games in Dec 2005 vs UMHB and Concordia-Austin would be defined as in-region as well.  UW-Stout's baseball team played several Texas schools this March.  Those will be in-region next year.  That will really impact whether Wisconsin and Illinois schools want to come to Texas or California for Spring Training.

Practically speaking the WIAC has filled a bunch of football open dates with ASC teams.  That is the real win-win for the ASC and the WIAC.  Now opening the West Football Evaluation Region via the 4th Geographic Region 4 to the South Football Region (Texas) ASC schools encourages the ASC schedule those games.

The UMHB-CNU game is the first non-conference game between an ASC team and a South Region opponent other than Trinity, Rhodes or Millsaps, Huntingdon ever!  The ASC teams have found non-conference foes in the WIAC, the NWC or the near-by NAIA schools!

[Pat Coleman]

Like the Division III football West Region? There are two states in Division III's Region 4 that do not have teams in the Division III football West Region: Texas and Missouri.

The geographic make up of the West Region is just as crazy.  Wisconsin and some Illinois teams in the same region as Oregon and California?  Doesn't make a lot of sense either, IMHO!  But as always, I bow to your expertise in these matters, Pat!  Must be a complicated system to organize and to try and be fair for everyone. 

If you are coming from the West Coast, you have to get to Wisconsin and Illinois before you get to one-quarter of the Division III schools.

If you want to cover just the West Coast, then you'll have about a 20-team region for football. And then you'd have three other regions with about 70 teams in them.

[WSUFan]

Looking at the WW scores from last year's conference games, it appears that only the LX game was in doubt.  Should the same be expected in 06?

Just my personal opinion, but I like Whitewater going 7-0 and looking very strong again this year. I see the La Crosse game being the big one again.  I like Oshkosh and La Crosse playing for second. Oshkosh seemed pretty young last year, but played well.  I'm not sure what to expect from Eau Claire this season with the coaching change, anyone care to opine on how they look?

[footballfan413]

Thanks to Pat and Ralph for the clarification.  As I stated earlier, I figured that one would have to look at a map of the schools to see the "schools per state," make up when drawing any kind of boundries or trying to understand the decisions that are made.  Looks like it is just an unfortunate fact of geographic locations that make "out-of-region," travel more of a hardship on some schools than others.  Thanks again.  Always happy to learn from the D-3 Football Guru's!!!