FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[DuffMan]

I would say in the top 3, which is not the middle.  In both 03 and 04 if we beat LX last game we are in the playoffs.

Okay, but my point was that although you've had good teams, dominance is a new thing for the Warhawks.

[badgerwarhawk]

TC,

Beaver may or may not be feeling effects from his injury I don't really know.  What I do know is that, last Saturday, he was feeling the effects of the quickest front seven that we had seen this season.  That's hard enough but when their single goal is to stop him and they have the talent to do it, his gaining 94 yards isn't that bad really.  

He hasn't been brought back too soon.  He's gotten x-rays after each of the last two playoff games and they show that he's just fine.  

[Goal Line Stand]

sorry we try and rock the perk D1 style

From the game stats:
Stadium: Perkins Stadium       Attendance: 2324

Yeah, you guys are big time...

I ventured out in the cold from my north region home to catch some west region football at perkins stadium. Great facility. my first time there. a div 1 type environment. 

TC, you sound like a sore loser............... 8)

 I don't think pointing out the less than spectacular crowd (without even pointing out how many of those fans were wearing red) makes me a sore loser, but whatever.

Sorry if I misinterpreted your comment.  Probably was because of the way you said it.  You know, with sarcasm.   

By the way, students, hope Saturday's "stand," doesn't hurt the team.  Rather than try and throw out the entire student body, I would just instruct the stripes to start flagging the Hawks 15 at a time as they threatened to do last game.  And if the penalty gives Wesley a 3rd down conversion resulting in a TD and the Hawks lose by 3?     Think about it, guys, the stakes are pretty high, don't you think?  Hawks don't need the distraction. 

[warhawkexpress28]

From what I saw and heard it sounded like alot of the 3rd and longs were converted on deep out cuts, what this tells me is that the hawks were playing a cover 4 or 3 which means the DBs job is to make sure nothin gets behind him especially on 3rd or 4th and long.  If they were to start jumpin those routes and team (like Wesley) will do double moves and instead of first downs they could be TDs. 

This is just my view could be wrong.

I see that All region teams came out about this time last year, does anyone know when they are coming out.

[Goal Line Stand]

From what I saw and heard it sounded like alot of the 3rd and longs were converted on deep out cuts, what this tells me is that the hawks were playing a cover 4 or 3 which means the DBs job is to make sure nothin gets behind him especially on 3rd or 4th and long.  If they were to start jumpin those routes and team (like Wesley) will do double moves and instead of first downs they could be TDs. 

This is just my view could be wrong.

I see that All region teams came out about this time last year, does anyone know when they are coming out.

I agree totally with your assessment.  It was a, "bend but don't break," defensive approach.  Hard to watch at times but if it gives up a few 1st downs but no TD's and only the occassional FG, it usually allows for a win.  As the field shortened, different defensive schemes were called.

[Pat Coleman]

From what I saw and heard it sounded like alot of the 3rd and longs were converted on deep out cuts, what this tells me is that the hawks were playing a cover 4 or 3 which means the DBs job is to make sure nothin gets behind him especially on 3rd or 4th and long.  If they were to start jumpin those routes and team (like Wesley) will do double moves and instead of first downs they could be TDs. 

This is just my view could be wrong.

I see that All region teams came out about this time last year, does anyone know when they are coming out.

As soon as I get about six hours to myself to compile them. The votes are in.

[warhawkexpress28]

From what I saw and heard it sounded like alot of the 3rd and longs were converted on deep out cuts, what this tells me is that the hawks were playing a cover 4 or 3 which means the DBs job is to make sure nothin gets behind him especially on 3rd or 4th and long.  If they were to start jumpin those routes and team (like Wesley) will do double moves and instead of first downs they could be TDs. 

This is just my view could be wrong.

I see that All region teams came out about this time last year, does anyone know when they are coming out.

As soon as I get about six hours to myself to compile them. The votes are in.

Only 6 hours so Ill be expecting them around 8pm central time 

[Barber Greene]

We don't "just go away".  And we do enjoy talking football.  Now that UWW will be representing the West, the Warhawks are our team now as well, since we're jumping on the bandwagon (as such bandwagon jumpers, we will question the obscenity issue-- but that's already been hashed out-- and defended-- to death).

So here's a football question: what was the Xs and Os reason for SJU making those third-and-long conversions?  Were they great plays by the SJU receivers or mistakes in the UWW secondary?  If the former, can Wesley duplicate those plays, and if the latter, can UWW fix those mistakes by positioning?

(And please, don't give the standard "Brez is a good coach-- he'll be sure to fix it" line.  Yes, Brez is a good coach, and yes, he will intend to fix it, so we all already know that.  But I'm trying to get at whether this was an anomaly for Whitewater or if the Warhawks played rope-a-dope on third down all year).

Some of the most successful pass plays can be chalked up to the scrambling ability of the QB and the adjustments the receivers made when he was scrambling....SJ's second TD for example

[Goal Line Stand]

By the way, Students, hope Saturday's "stand," doesn't hurt the team.  Rather than try and throw out the entire student body, I would just instruct the stripes to start flagging the Hawks 15 at a time as they threatened to do last game.  And if the penalty gives Wesley a 3rd down conversion resulting in a TD and the Hawks lose by 3?     Think about it, guys, the stakes are pretty high, don't you think?  Hawks don't need the distraction. 

I would just like to add that I hope the students will decide that WHERE they chant is more important than WHAT they chant.  Remember, "Virginia is for Lovers."   8)

[uww0212]

With that said, here's a topic for debate.  Who would you rather having playing on the d-line for your team: Ryan Kleppe or Bryan Robinson? 

With having only seen Kleepe play last week, I don't have to see Robinson play.  Enough said.

I've seen them both, and it is not cut and dried. Though I would love to see the line that has Kleppe at tackle and Robinson at end.

Pat,

Can you elaborate on the "not cut and dry".  I have seen Robinson play only once, and that was against WW last year in the semifinal game.  Conditions werer bad, but he obviously didn't have a huge impact on the game.  I have seen everyone of Kleppe's games the last two years.  I have seen Kleppe completely change the complexion of a game at least 3 times this year.  Does Robinson turn in performances like Kleppe's against UMHB?

I'm not talking about putting up numbers, I mean changing the entire outcome of a game against a top tier opponent.

[Pat Coleman]

From what I saw and heard it sounded like alot of the 3rd and longs were converted on deep out cuts, what this tells me is that the hawks were playing a cover 4 or 3 which means the DBs job is to make sure nothin gets behind him especially on 3rd or 4th and long.  If they were to start jumpin those routes and team (like Wesley) will do double moves and instead of first downs they could be TDs. 

This is just my view could be wrong.

I see that All region teams came out about this time last year, does anyone know when they are coming out.

As soon as I get about six hours to myself to compile them. The votes are in.

Only 6 hours so Ill be expecting them around 8pm central time 

Someone's going to have to tell NBCSports.com that I can't finish my shift then. Here until 10 ET.

[Pat Coleman]

With that said, here's a topic for debate.  Who would you rather having playing on the d-line for your team: Ryan Kleppe or Bryan Robinson? 

With having only seen Kleepe play last week, I don't have to see Robinson play.  Enough said.

I've seen them both, and it is not cut and dried. Though I would love to see the line that has Kleppe at tackle and Robinson at end.

Pat,

Can you elaborate on the "not cut and dry".  I have seen Robinson play only once, and that was against WW last year in the semifinal game.  Conditions werer bad, but he obviously didn't have a huge impact on the game.  I have seen everyone of Kleppe's games the last two years.  I have seen Kleppe completely change the complexion of a game at least 3 times this year.  Does Robinson turn in performances like Kleppe's against UMHB?

I'm not talking about putting up numbers, I mean changing the entire outcome of a game against a top tier opponent.

I saw Robinson have a similarly dominant game against Salisbury in 2005 in person and statistically he had a similarly dominant game last Saturday. Against UMHB.

[uww0212]

With that said, here's a topic for debate.  Who would you rather having playing on the d-line for your team: Ryan Kleppe or Bryan Robinson? 

With having only seen Kleepe play last week, I don't have to see Robinson play.  Enough said.

I've seen them both, and it is not cut and dried. Though I would love to see the line that has Kleppe at tackle and Robinson at end.

Pat,

Can you elaborate on the "not cut and dry".  I have seen Robinson play only once, and that was against WW last year in the semifinal game.  Conditions werer bad, but he obviously didn't have a huge impact on the game.  I have seen everyone of Kleppe's games the last two years.  I have seen Kleppe completely change the complexion of a game at least 3 times this year.  Does Robinson turn in performances like Kleppe's against UMHB?

I'm not talking about putting up numbers, I mean changing the entire outcome of a game against a top tier opponent.

I saw Robinson have a similarly dominant game against Salisbury in 2005 in person and statistically he had a similarly dominant game last Saturday. Against UMHB.

Is "statistically" the key word in that sentence?  Kleppe seems to make plays that shift the momentum of the game.  Not looking at his stats, the people from SJU knew he changed the game.  SJU came out and took the momentum from the start, and Kleppe's first sack took that momentum away from them. 

Other question I would have is how is Robinson's motor?  Like I said before I've only seen him once in pretty bad weather.  It seemed to me like if the play didn't come right at him he had plays he gave up on.  Is this normal behavior or part of the conditions of that game?

[Pat Coleman]

Is "statistically" the key word in that sentence?  Kleppe seems to make plays that shift the momentum of the game.  Not looking at his stats, the people from SJU knew he changed the game.  SJU came out and took the momentum from the start, and Kleppe's first sack took that momentum away from them. 

Other question I would have is how is Robinson's motor?  Like I said before I've only seen him once in pretty bad weather.  It seemed to me like if the play didn't come right at him he had plays he gave up on.  Is this normal behavior or part of the conditions of that game?

It's in that sentence only because I did not cover that game personally so I could not speak to the feel of the game. I did see the UWW/UMHB game.

I'll see if Keith McMillan can comment. He saw both games.

[DutchFan2004]

with all the talk of the trash coming out of the student section.  Things must have really gone down hill in a year.  The Dutch played there last year.  I thought the chant "BUTTERFINGER" when our tight end dropped a pass was funny.  Chanting Hawkeye rejects was demeaning somewhat but cute.  The trouble with that chant was that if the Dutch are Hawkeye rejects aren't the UWW players Badger rejects.  Were they demeaning their own players?  Not sure on that.  Using the Fbomb and other swearing is not cool.  Just because you think it is free speech doesnt make it right.  Do you want the Nazi's at the games spouting the trash or the KKK doing it.  I think there is a line that should not be crossed.  The crazy student saying that he/she is paying a lot of money and it is his school that does not make sense.  The last time I knew UWW is a state school and all the taxpayers of Wisconsin own it not just the students.  From what I can see he needs to do some research about the expenses UWW puts out.  Without the support of the taxpayers the tuition he and his fellow students don't cover the outlay of the college.  The advise is as a senior grow up act your age and make your college proud and show that you can have fun in a proper way.  I am sure that with your education you can use that grey matter between your ears and skull to come up with fun witty and smart cheers not easy lazy trash coming from your mouths.