FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[footballfan413]

Both of our guys are lightning in a bottle and are wicked strong.  They will bring the hurt.

Ya, I would say the same about Beaver.  Your guys haven't had a chance to meet him yet.   

They are obviously talented but it will be interesting to see what they can do against, what will probably be, the best run defense they will have faced this season. 

[Warhawk 96]

Welcome aboard MHB fans. Last year was an onslaught by two great defensive front sevens. Kind of an interesting game with ten points and I think about 300 combined yards. The backs are some of the best we'll see all year though. This is a different WW team this year also, especially with Justin Beaver in the line-up. I can't WAIT to see this game and I would be lying if I said that I was not worried at least a little bit.

[umhb2001]

Welcome aboard MHB fans. Last year was an onslaught by two great defensive front sevens. Kind of an interesting game with ten points and I think about 300 combined yards. The backs are some of the best we'll see all year though. This is a different WW team this year also, especially with Justin Beaver in the line-up. I can't WAIT to see this game and I would be lying if I said that I was not worried at least a little bit.

I have to agree that this game will be a tight one.  Both teams should be a little "worried" but confidant.  Both squads are where they are for a reason and I believe both respect the other quite a bit.

The previous poster said something about us facing the toughest run D in y'all, and while that may be true, the same was said for last week.  Our two O lines are VERY tough and VERY formidable.  Our senior FB is a bruiser, and neither RB lets up. 

I will be interested in seeing how we do against Beaver as well.  I know he is great and will give us a challenge.  It should be a great game!

[umhb2001]

Both of our guys are lightning in a bottle and are wicked strong.  They will bring the hurt.

Ya, I would say the same about Beaver.  Your guys haven't had a chance to meet him yet.   

They are obviously talented but it will be interesting to see what they can do against, what will probably be, the best run defense they will have faced this season. 

If you look at this http://web1.ncaa.org/stats/StatsSrv/rankings, we HAD faced the toughest run defense all year and we obliterated them.  If you look at the rankings for this week, Mississippi does not even show up.  I think we will hold our own.  Not to mention that our run D is formidable as well.

[Rick Akins]

As far as the UMHB two deep, every week on Wednesday or Thursday the SID Jon Wallin does a really good and very detailed game summary which includes the rosters, two deep, stats and a whole lot more. If you go to umhb.edu and go to athletics and click news you can find it. For example, the preview story about  the Mississippi College game was a news story on Wed., Oct 17 and then go to the game summary.  Sorry, I am not the best as far as "linking" goes. There is one every week and I am sure the Whitewater one will be out tomorrow I expect.

By the way, I will be there on Saturday with one other "grownup" and five college guys.  I CAN'T WAIT!! I know UMHB is significantly better than last year, especially offensively,  but I am not arrogant or fololish enough to predict anything. See you Saturday!!

[Rick Akins]

I am neither arrogant nor foolish nor even "fololish."  Sorry about the typo.

[umhb2001]

I asked T if y'all were going and he said yes!  Man I wish I could go this time!  It should be a great game!  Have fun!

[roocru]

Whitewater fans,

I posted this same information last week on the ASC board prior to our game against Mississippi College.  I have changed it to fit for this week's contest.  This is not meant for any other reason than informational purposes.  Take from it what you will!!  I just thought it might tell everyone something about both teams.
(Sorry for the format, but I have not figured out how to clean it up to post in straight columns)

PS - NR stands for Not Ranked this week.  They have been ranked sometime in the past 3 weeks

NCAA       Rankings as of 10/20   
Football National Ranking Summary         
Thru Games 10/20/2007         
Category   Team                   Rank   Actual
Total Offense (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   3   532.4
   Whitewater   38   412.1
Total Defense (231 ranked)
   Whitewater   27   263.7
               Mary Hardin-Baylor   55   289.9
   
Rushing Offense (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   1   379.9
   Whitewater   27   230.6
Rushing Defense (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   4   48.4
   Whitewater   19   78.9
Passing Offense (231 ranked)
   Whitewater   128   186.1
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   172   152.6
Pass Efficiency Defense (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   60   102.3
   Whitewater   75   105.3
Scoring Offense (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   1   57.3
   Whitewater   60   30.6
Scoring Defense (231 ranked)
   Whitewater   22   14.4
               Mary Hardin-Baylor   36   15.7
Turnover Margin (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   2   2.4
   Whitewater   79   0.4
Team Kickoff Returns (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   187   17.0
   Whitewater   207   16.2
Team Punt Returns (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   33   12.4
   Whitewater   114   8.6
Team Tackles for Loss (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   1   11.7
   Whitewater   133   6.3
Team Pass Sacks (231 ranked)   
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   12   3.9
                Whitewater   14   3.7
Team Passing Efficiency (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   7   169.2
   Whitewater   72   128.6
Pass Sacks Allowed (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   7   0.9
   Whitewater   103   2.0
Kick Off Return Defense (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   16   14.9
   Whitewater   207   22.3
Punt Return Defense (231 ranked)
   Whitewater   22   4.3
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   77   6.8
Turnovers Lost (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   71   13.0
   Whitewater   84   14.0
Turnovers Gained (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   1   30.0
   Whitewater   77   17.0
Passes Had Intercepted (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   7   3.0
   Whitewater   36   5.0
Fumbles Lost (231 ranked)
   Whitewater   180   9.0
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   189   10.0
Passes Intercepted (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   1   18.0
   Whitewater   37   12.0
Team Net Punting (231 ranked)
   Whitewater   9   36.1
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   22   34.8
Fumbles Recovered (231 ranked)
   Mary Hardin-Baylor   9   12.0
   Whitewater   143   5.0
         
Category   Player                                                Rank   Actual
Rushing Yards Per Game (500 ranked)
   Justin Beaver, Whitewater                   2   178.3
   Jarvis Thrasher, Mary Hardin-Baylor   4   155.3
   Quincy Daniels, Mary Hardin-Baylor   17   120.6
   Chris Owen, Mary Hardin-Baylor   279   43.0
   Jake Anderson, Whitewater                   NR   
         
Passing Efficiency (500 ranked)
   Danny Jones, Whitewater               67   129.5
   Josh Welch (Does not qualify for minimum attempts per Game   NR   
         
Total Offense (500 ranked)
   Jarvis Thrasher, Mary Hardin-Baylor   14   155.0
   Danny Jones, Whitewater                   97   129.5
   Justin Beaver, Whitewater             118   178.3
   Josh Welch, Mary Hardin-Baylor   192   127.0
   Quincy Daniels, Mary Hardin-Baylor   203   120.6
   Josh Saenz, Mary Hardin-Baylor   421   55.7
   Chris Owen, Mary Hardin-Baylor   492   45.0
         
Receptions Per Game (500 ranked)
   Neil Mrkvicka, Whitewater               42   6.1
   Aaron Rusch, Whitewater              478   2.6
   Jordan Wells, Whitewater             499   2.5
   Matt, Gifford, Whitewater             NR   
   Patrick Oliver, Mary Hardin-Baylor   NR   
         
Receiving Yards Per Game (500 ranked)
   Patrick Oliver, Mary Hardin-Baylor   219   51.0
   Neil Mrkvicka, Whitewater                   669   77.1
   Matt, Gifford, Whitewater                   NR   
         
Scoring (500 ranked)
   Jarvis Thrasher, Mary Hardin-Baylor   2   13.7
   Quincy Daniels, Mary Hardin-Baylor   11   11.1
   Jeff Schebler, Whitewater               42   8.9
   Joel Munoz, Mary Hardin-Baylor   42   8.9
   Patrick Oliver, Mary Hardin-Baylor   113   6.9
   Chris Owen, Mary Hardin-Baylor   282   5.0
   Justin Beaver, Whitewater                   351   4.3
   Matt, Gifford, Whitewater                   NR   
         
All Purpose (500 ranked)
   Justin Beaver, Whitewater                   11   179.0
   Jarvis Thrasher, Mary Hardin-Baylor   27   158.1
   Quincy Daniels, Mary Hardin-Baylor   38   149.7
   Neil Mrkvicka, Whitewater           60   132.1
   Chris Owen, Mary Hardin-Baylor   475   66.3
         
Punt Returns (500 ranked)
   Brett Parker, Mary Hardin-Baylor   15   14.5
   Neil Mrkvicka, Whitewater           93   8..5
         
Kickoff Returns (500 ranked)
   Neil Mrkvicka, Whitewater           196   8.6
         
Field Goals Per Game (500 ranked)
   Jeff Schebler, Whitewater           1   1.9
   Joel Munoz, Mary Hardin-Baylor   66   0.7
   James Crawford, Mary Hardin-Baylor   178   0.2
         
Punting (500 ranked)
   Nick Croak, Whitewater              37   39.3
                Joel Munoz, Mary Hardin-Baylor (does not meet minimum of 3.6 punts per game)  NR
         
         
Interceptions (500 ranked)
   Ben Farley, Whitewater              31   0.6
   Brett Parker, Mary Hardin-Baylor   97   0.4
   Derr Williams, Mary Hardin-Baylor   97   0.4
   Jace Rindahl, Whitewater            125   0.4
   Andy Murray, Whitewater           225   0.3
   Bryson Tucker, Mary Hardin-Baylor   NR   
   Elliot Barcak, Mary Hardin-Baylor   NR   
   Clayton Burris, Mary Hardin-Baylor   NR   
   Tim Kennedy, Mary Hardin-Baylor   NR   
   Jeremy Salinas, Mary Hardin-Baylor   NR   
   Troney Shumpert, Whitewater    NR   
   Matt Blaziewski, Whitewater       NR   
         
Total Tackles (500 ranked)
   Jerrell Freeman, Mary Hardin-Baylor   209   7.9
   Jace Rindahl, Whitewater            NR   
         
Solo Tackles (500 ranked)
   Andy Murray, Whitewater           331   4.0
   Jerrell Freeman, Mary Hardin-Baylor   451   3.7
   Tristan Borzick, Whitewater        NR   
   Jace Rindahl, Whitewater            NR   
         
Pass Sacks (500 ranked)
   Anthony White, Whitewater        17   1.1
   Ryan Ogrizovich, Whitewater       20   1.0
   Chad Hilton, Mary Hardin-Baylor   44   0.9
   Eric Henri, Mary Hardin-Baylor      99   0.6
   Josh Jackson, Whitewater           134   0.6
   Aj Raebel, Whitewater                330   0.4
   Mark Manning, Mary Hardin-Baylor   386   0.4
   Jason Miller, Mary Hardin-Baylor   386   0.4
   Bryson Tucker, Mary Hardin-Baylor   457   0.3
         
Tackles For Loss (500 ranked)
   Chad Hilton, Mary Hardin-Baylor   102   1.4
   Jerrell Freeman, Mary Hardin-Baylor   130   1.3
   Eric Henri, Mary Hardin-Baylor     130   1.3
   Ryan Ogrizovich, Whitewater      209   1.1
   Anthony White, Whitewater        255   1.1
   Aj Raebel, Whitewater                400   0.9
   William Dewease, Mary Hardin-Baylor   405   0.9
   Ben Beckworth, Mary Hardin-Baylor   471   0.8
   Mark Manning, Mary Hardin-Baylor   471   0.8
   Josh Jackson, Whitewater           NR   
         
Forced Fumbles (500 ranked)
   Chad Hilton, Mary Hardin-Baylor   61   0.3
   Josh Jackson, Whitewater           61   0.3
   Jason Miller, Mary Hardin-Baylor   61   0.3
   Eric Henri, Mary Hardin-Baylor      61   0.3
   Mark Balderas, Mary Hardin-Baylor   209   0.2
   Marco Coppola, Mary Hardin-Baylor   209   0.2
   Aj Raebel, Whitewater                209   0.2
   John Hamilton, Mary Hardin--Baylor   209   0.2
   Ben Beckworth, Mary Hardin-Baylor   339   0.1
   Brett Parker, Mary Hardin-Baylor   339   0.1
   Jace Rindahl, Whitewater            339   0.1
   Andy Murray, Whitewater           339   0.1
         
Passes Defended (500 ranked)
   Brett Parker, Mary Hardin-Baylor   17   1.7
   Ben Farley, Whitewater              121   1.1
   Elliot Barcak, Mary Hardin-Baylor   155   1.0
   Derr Williams, Mary Hardin-Baylor   249   0.9
   Jerrell Freeman, Mary Hardin-Baylor   249   0.9
   Calvin Fleming, Mary Hardin-Baylor   249   0.9
   Matt Blaziewski, Whitewater       339   0.7
   Jace Rindahl, Whitewater            339   0.7
   Gabe Schultz, Whitewater          339   0.7
   Clayton Burris, Mary Hardin-Baylor   NR   
         
Passing Yards (500 ranked)
   Danny Jones, Whitewater           94   1232.0
   Josh Welch, Mary Hardin-Baylor   166   794.0
   Josh Saenz, Mary Hardin-Baylor   249   262.0
   Chris Owen, Mary Hardin-Baylor   360   12.0
         
Rushing Yards (500 ranked)
   Justin Beaver, Whitewater          2   1248.0
   Jarvis Thrasher, Mary Hardin-Baylor   6   1087.0
   Quincy Daniels, Mary Hardin-Baylor   19   844.0
   Chris Owen, Mary Hardin-Baylor   326   258.0
   Josh Saenz, Mary Hardin-Baylor   NR   
   Jake Anderson, Whitewater        NR   
         
Receiving Yards (500 ranked)
   Neil Mrkvicka,Whitewater            68   540.0
   Patrick Oliver, Mary Hardin-Baylor   208   357.0
   Matt Gifford, Whitewater             NR   
         
Passing Yards Per Game (500 ranked)
   Danny Jones, Whitewater           105   176.0
   Josh Welch, Mary Hardin-Baylor   171   113.4
   Josh Saenz, Mary Hardin-Baylor   248   37.4
   Chris Owen, Mary Hardin-Baylor   357   2.0
         

[Devil Badger Gopher]

I just wanted to place my two cents on the matchup.  I would like to say that UWW has played much more consistant and better competition than has UMHB.  Playing in the WIAC alone will carry UWW far in any other D3 football game.  I am actually selling both teams as being overrated.  The game will feature two stubborn run games as neither qb will pass for enough to win.  I think that Beaver gets more yardage than their two backs.

[Pat Coleman]

I am actually selling both teams as being overrated.

DBG: Who is the No. 2 team in the country, then, in your opinion?

[warhawkclownshow]

UMHB people no one cares about your game last week, you obviously played one of the worst teams in the history of western civilization.  Game should be very interesting with WW turnovers being the deciding factor, if they win this battle they will mostly likely come out with the W.  I would expect a lot more scoring in this game compared to last year, probably around 40 total points.
   
Rick Akins- If UMHB is really that much better than they were last year they should easily handle WW who is clearly not as dominate, although they are still growing at some key positions.

[Devil Badger Gopher]

Pat you do bring up a good point.  There is not much to put into that spot at 2 & 3.  I mean if Mt. Union could have another team, I would consider them #2.  There are no good choices except the winner of this game.  I am just not sure if these two teams are the second and third best in the nation.  I think that Capital would beat both teams even though they will be most likely losing for a second consecutive week on Saturday and maybe Ohio Northern. 

[voice]

I don't think its very smart to have UWW and WIAC people throwing smack at our friends from Texas.  They were a hell of a team last year, and they are a hell of a team this year, and the team that wins will be the team that makes the fewest mistakes.  Hawks need to pound the rock. 

From a previous UMHB post... Whitewater does not return its entire starting O-Line from 2006.  Max Sakellaris graduated at tackle - I believe he was selected "Lineman of the Year" by one D3 publication.

POUND THE ROCK FOR 60 MINUTES!

[Rick Akins]

 I never said or implied that UMHB would "easily" win, although that would of course be nice.  I do agree with you, warhawkclownshow, that turnovers will be very very important on both sides.  Also, you can never underestimate or  even always predict how travel can impact the game.  I do concede that UWW has most likely played better competition to date.  Neither Christopher Newport nor Hardin-Simmons is as good as I anticipated; on the other hand UMHB handled them both fairly easily.  We will see in 4 days!

[Warhawk 96]

Roocru,  hope you copy pasted that from somewhere. If not, I nominate you for the hardest working poster award for 2007.

On another note, I can't wait to see how everything shakes up statisitically. I mean, somethings gotta give.