FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[badgerwarhawk]

Putting aside the outcome of the WW vs. MHB game, all Hawks fans hope for a speedy recovery to Josh Jackson. You'll be missed. His replacement has some big shoes to fill. Beleive they are saying broken ankle 

He was playing with a broken arm at one point, now a broken ankle.  The kid just can't catch a break.  Josh was having an excellent season but his replacement Jace Rindahl has also played very well.  A bigger problem may be the reduction in depth at the position.  

[LC65]

UMHBalum-n-CenLa,
Good points, well taken.

Bill,
I am speaking from experience here. Taking the Blue Chip recruits out of the equation, if you were to ask the more talented high school players in Wisconsin where they were going to play next year, (with they exception of a few that have the grades to get into Madison and try to walk on, or the few that go D-I out of state) most of them would most likely tell you UW-Whitewater, UW-La Crosse, UW-Eau Claire, etc.; a WIAC school.  I now coach in the south and NONE of my players (talented or not) are talking about going to ANY ASC school. Most of them are planning on going to the local Community College and then trying to get a D-I offer from the Multiple D-I schools (Big XII, SEC, and Conf. USA) in the area. Will some of them end up at an ASC school?, probably, but it sure won't be anyones first choice, like Whitewater or La Crosse is for a lot of Wisconsin players. Again, nor do we have any D-II schools to take away from out D-III programs. Also, you have to look at Whitewater's recruiting area. It sits between Madison and Milwaukee, and is just north of Chicago. It's a great school in a prime location for anyone from those areas who want to keep playing but maybe don't have the quite the talent of D-I. Also, if we took the bottom teams from the ASC and the bottom teams from the WIAC, I'd take River Falls or Platteville over Louisiana College or Howard Payne any day!

[Kelly Boggs]

You make a good case, LC65 - +1

And to help illustrate your point - at least in a round about way - Louisiana College had a pretty impressive freshman defensive lineman last year. This season he transfered to either ULM or Northwestern (I can't remember which) in order to try to make the team. Eventually he hopes to get a scholarship. But in the meantime, in his way of thinking, the tuition is a lot cheaper and the competition a bit better.

My son plays high school ball  (he is a sophmore)  and has several teammates that are pretty talented. I think 6 of them could play D3, however none of them have even mentioned D3 and the coach has, as of yet, not even suggested the idea. I could be wrong but I think that Louisiana College is the only D3 team in the state.

[crufootball]

Do any of you know if you can still view the UWW-UMHB anywhere? Can I buy a copy of it from whatever website played it live?

[Just Bill]

UMHBalum-n-CenLa,
Good points, well taken.

Bill,
I am speaking from experience here. Taking the Blue Chip recruits out of the equation, if you were to ask the more talented high school players in Wisconsin where they were going to play next year, (with they exception of a few that have the grades to get into Madison and try to walk on, or the few that go D-I out of state) most of them would most likely tell you UW-Whitewater, UW-La Crosse, UW-Eau Claire, etc.; a WIAC school.  I now coach in the south and NONE of my players (talented or not) are talking about going to ANY ASC school. Most of them are planning on going to the local Community College and then trying to get a D-I offer from the Multiple D-I schools (Big XII, SEC, and Conf. USA) in the area. Will some of them end up at an ASC school?, probably, but it sure won't be anyones first choice, like Whitewater or La Crosse is for a lot of Wisconsin players. Again, nor do we have any D-II schools to take away from out D-III programs. Also, you have to look at Whitewater's recruiting area. It sits between Madison and Milwaukee, and is just north of Chicago. It's a great school in a prime location for anyone from those areas who want to keep playing but maybe don't have the quite the talent of D-I. Also, if we took the bottom teams from the ASC and the bottom teams from the WIAC, I'd take River Falls or Platteville over Louisiana College or Howard Payne any day!

I don't disagree with a single point.  However, it's foolish to predict the outcome of one single game based on this.  It doesn't make a bit of difference to the players and coaches which league might have a slightly more favorable position.

Read back through the post-game comments.  Did anyone say, "Boy, UMHB would have had a shot if Wisconsin would just have some D-II programs."  Of course not.  The game is decided on the field.

[retagent]

Just a note on the UMHB pre -game activity discussion. I was sitting in the stands and overheard a conversation one row behind me about the travel of the UMHB team. Where they flew into and stayed etc. I turned around and saw it was one of the bus drivers who obviously had chartered the Crusaders around. He then made a comment about how they weren't cocky at all, and seemed to be pretty nice fellows, or words to that effect. It would seem to me that he has probably seen a lot of teams in doing his work, and for him to make a comment means to  me that they must have made a very positive impression on him.

[footballfan413]

A huge congrats to the #2 team in the country!  Back where you belong!  The Warhawks came to play. Defense was once again HUGE and the offense looked very tight.   Danny was smart, accurate and he and the WR's made plays when they had to.  An all-around great effort.  Now back to clinching that WIAC championship on Saturday.  The Blue Devils will bring it and always play well at their field. 
    Best to Josh.  So sorry to hear about his injury.  For those of you that don't remember, he could not attend the Stagg last year as he was diagnosed with mono right before.  Some crappy luck.
    About this jumping on the "W,"......... please............it never even occurred to me that there was any disrespect intended when going to that spot and gathering at the center of the field seemed like a natural place to me.  The anthem was unfortunate but I won't believe it was because of anything other than a miscommunication. A program whose students have a rep for certain kinds of chants, should not be jumping to conclusions regarding other programs behaviors, IMO.  You know, the old, "glass house and stones," theory.  This home/home agreement between two top national programs has been a tremendous experience for both as far as I am concerned.  The Cru's players, fans and coaching staff and community were terrific to the Hawks fans and players last year and I hope they feel the same after their time spent in Wisconsin. 

[ihavesomething2say]

I think the game that was just played between UWW and UMHB goes to show how tough the WIAC is.  Im not sure but I think UWW beat UMHB by more than any of the WIAC teams they beat.  Not saying that all the WIAC teams are better than UMHB but it goes to show that every game in the WIAC is a battle no matter who the games are between.  But I think you could take any team from the WIAC and put them in any other conference and they would place in the top half in EVERY conference

[LC65]

UMHBalum-n-CenLa,
Good points, well taken.

Bill,
I am speaking from experience here. Taking the Blue Chip recruits out of the equation, if you were to ask the more talented high school players in Wisconsin where they were going to play next year, (with they exception of a few that have the grades to get into Madison and try to walk on, or the few that go D-I out of state) most of them would most likely tell you UW-Whitewater, UW-La Crosse, UW-Eau Claire, etc.; a WIAC school.  I now coach in the south and NONE of my players (talented or not) are talking about going to ANY ASC school. Most of them are planning on going to the local Community College and then trying to get a D-I offer from the Multiple D-I schools (Big XII, SEC, and Conf. USA) in the area. Will some of them end up at an ASC school?, probably, but it sure won't be anyones first choice, like Whitewater or La Crosse is for a lot of Wisconsin players. Again, nor do we have any D-II schools to take away from out D-III programs. Also, you have to look at Whitewater's recruiting area. It sits between Madison and Milwaukee, and is just north of Chicago. It's a great school in a prime location for anyone from those areas who want to keep playing but maybe don't have the quite the talent of D-I. Also, if we took the bottom teams from the ASC and the bottom teams from the WIAC, I'd take River Falls or Platteville over Louisiana College or Howard Payne any day!

I don't disagree with a single point.  However, it's foolish to predict the outcome of one single game based on this.  It doesn't make a bit of difference to the players and coaches which league might have a slightly more favorable position.

Read back through the post-game comments.  Did anyone say, "Boy, UMHB would have had a shot if Wisconsin would just have some D-II programs."  Of course not.  The game is decided on the field.

Come on Bill, the argument I present here is MUCH more valid than that rediculous "grass" argument. Secondly, as a coach, when playing Non-Conference games, we're ALWAYS analyzing our opponent's conference and saying things like, "Well guys, they may be 4-6 but don't take them lightly, look at who they played." Or "Yeah, they're 8-2, but who have they played?" Everyone looks at strength of schedule!!!

[Just Bill]

I wasn't part of the grass vs. turf debate so that has no berring.

[stealth]

Can someone take a shot at the rather low attendance considering what the game was hyped up to be and the ramifications. I was a little surprised that it was low. 6k 

[BoBo]

There was suppose to be a Blackhawk helicopter fly over during the national anthem but for some reason it didn't work out.   Bummer, that would have been really cool.  

badgerwarhawk, the Blackhawk flyover during the national anthem was cancelled because the National Guard diverted the helo for a mission to California to assist in the fire-fighting efforts going on out there...heard this during the WW radio broadcast.

[janesvilleflash]

Can someone take a shot at the rather low attendance considering what the game was hyped up to be and the ramifications. I was a little surprised that it was low. 6k 

Badger game always hurts.

[KitchenSink]

There was also a ton of Halloween stuff going on all weekend.  Everywhere.  Was still a healthy crowd - there were also fewer on the visitor side than for a WIAC game.

[badgerwarhawk]

Can someone take a shot at the rather low attendance considering what the game was hyped up to be and the ramifications. I was a little surprised that it was low. 6k 

It wasn't just a BADGER game it was the homecoming game.  Plus FreakFest on State St. that night.   An all day drunk with football in between is a huge lure to our student body.   Personally, I thought the attendance turned out a little better than I had expected knowing the MHB group was going to be small.