FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[Devil Badger Gopher]

QB-Harmon/Patek(probably Patek since he is a Senior)
RB-Beaver*, Moriarity, Anderson
OL-Ramsier*, Allen*, STP-OL, EC-OL, LAX-OL
WR-Z, Everson*

DL-Troia, Orgizovich, Vickroy
LB-Raebel*, Schills, Borzick, Baillargeon
DB-Farley, Kent, Neumann, Wicklund

P-Schaeuble
K-Schebler/Raschke (probably Raschke since he is a senior)

POY-Beaver
Coach- UWW-LL

[LC65]

A featured running back's primary job is to gain yards rushing.  List as many runners and go back as far as you like and the fact remains that one running back tops them all at doing what they're on the field to do and that running back is Justin Beaver.  He's not only broken the all time rushing record he has shattered it.   He's done it with opponents stacking the box and setting up defensive schemes specifically aimed at stopping him.  

There are several good backs in the league this year but Beaver stands above all of them.   That's my opinion.  

Goo....Coach of the Year:  Lance Liepold  

My coach of the year: Eau Claire's Glaser

Liepold has done a great job but he inherited all the talent.  Glaser turned a team around that didnt have a good season last year.

I agree for COY, Glaser has done great things for Eau Claire this year. Not only did he turn things around at Eau Claire this year, but with the adversity they faced throughout this season (Osborn's injury in preseason, then going through what, 4 or 5 QB's?) Glaser has been able to keep the Blugolds on track.

[stealth]

Pretty much agree with all your selections. I'd take Jones. While no QB in WIAC has been head and shoulders above anybody else. Jones stepped up in big games, W-L record at the helm and had to adjust to a completely new environment. Pretty tough to do that and be successful. TE selection is a real tough because WIAC teams don't feature them. Hard to select based on blocking and a couple catchs a game.  

I did play with Beaver as well as playing with Wurth my opinion still stands, Beaver is the best by far.  In my opinion Beaver is a great big reason why the last 3 years have been so successful.  Wurth was a great back but is no Beaver.
To change the subject: Here is my 2007 lst team all conference selections:

QB-Harmon/Jones
RB's- Beaver, Moriaty, Andersen
WR's- Everson, Zwiefel, Mrkvicka
OL-Allen, Ramsier, Darmody, Schmitz, Gyllin
TE-?
AP-Genslinger
P- Schaeuble
K-Schebler

DL-Neuman, Orgizovich, Booze, Troia, White
LB-Raebel, Borzick, Stenbroten, Baillargeon
DB-Blaziewske, Kent, Farley, Schills, Winney

Uniamous Dec- Beaver, Moriaty, Zweifel, Allen, Ramsier, Schebler, Neuman, Ogrizovich, Raebel, Baillargeon, Blaziewske

Player of Conference
Beaver

[Goo 62]

My picks are very much stat based along with all conference last year selections.  I should have taken wins into account more which would take more RF and Lax guys off but also at the same time certain guys are on bad teams and are still all conference players.  I stand by my picks.

[williethewarhawk]

ihavesomething2say:  I'm sorry to say this, but you're just wrong.  It may be your opinion, but it's still wrong.  Sorry

[ihavesomething2say]

This is funny and it doesnt bother me, but, you Whitewater fans are blind.  Not all, but most.  I understand why you say Beaver is the best he plays for you guys.  Im a fan of neither Whitewater or Oshkosh.  I dont care about either team.  But from observing I feel Andy Moriarty is better and here is why.  His oline, is nowhere near Whitewaters online.  So to say that he doesnt do anything against Whitewater and Stout.  Could that be cause the online isnt as good.  Does Beaver play against Whitewater? No.  Let him put on the Oshkosh jersey and play against Whitewater.  I bet he doesnt do better.  Moriarty is harder to bring down.  Look at the stats.  They both played 9 games.
Beaver: 282 carries
Moriarty: 261
Beaver: 1519 yards
Moriarty: 1476
Beaver: 5.4 ypc
Moriarty: 5.7
Beaver: 7 td
Moriarty 14
Beaver: 1521 All-purp
Moriarty: 1720

Yes Moriarty didnt play against Hardin Baylor but his other non-conference game was a cupcake.  But Beaver didnt play Whitewater. 
I dont care if you dont like my opinion.  But Im just defending my view.  Looking at these stats and knowing that Whitewater probably has the best oline in D3 college football I dont see how Beaver is better.  Plus, Whitewater has more weapons and I gaurentee defenses are keying on Moriarty more knowing the Oshkoshs recievers arent the threat that Mrvicka(sp?) is.  Thats just my opinion and just showing you why I think it.
And I still stick with it that Moriarty is more valuable to his team.

[KitchenSink]

Why do you believe Oshkosh's O-line is nowhere near Whitewater's?  I've seen them 3 times this year and I think they are pretty solid.  They may not be the equal of Whitewater, but they aren't that far behind.

For the record, I'm not related to anyone playing the line for Oshkosh ...  8)

[stealth]

True. Stats are the basis for any selection. In this case I was only refering to the QB selection. LX,MHB and Stevens Point games being the tie breakers in magnitude of importance to the team as a whole. May well have been a hands down Griffin selection for QB if he recovered from the whack that Raebel put on him. He didn't so we'll never know.  

My picks are very much stat based along with all conference last year selections.  I should have taken wins into account more which would take more RF and Lax guys off but also at the same time certain guys are on bad teams and are still all conference players.  I stand by my picks.

[ihavesomething2say]

I didnt mean Oshkosh's oline is terrible.  They're alright but there not Whitewaters line.  Oshkoshs center is pretty good, first team all conference worthy.  But hes probably the only one that I think would get to play for Whitewater.

[Warhawk 96]

Beaver is the best back to come out of this league in the last six years. No need for me to say anything to support it, that's why we have record books. To say that he's not that important to our team is a joke.

Moriarity is not on the level of Beaver. If he was, when his QB decides to have a bad day, Oshkosh can still win with him.

Ihavesomethingtosay- A lot of us don't crucify you. I don't even think you realize how negative your opinions are towards us and it's just because you simply don't like us. That's fine, to each his own but frankly most times we disregard your outlandish and sometimes ridiculous posts because your hatred has blinded you to what reality is.

ps. How come nobody has mentioned Mike Ferron for all-conference? From what I've heard he is more than a handful and a big reason why Point is doing so much better.

[Goo 62]

Well here is my defense and research on the best back in WIAC history:

Have you ever thought that these Olineman get the recognition they do because of Beaver.  Talk to any olineman and they will tell you the same thing.  (keep in mind who is saying this) Uww Oline is great and compliment Beaver very well but Beaver at the same time does make EVERY olineman better than they are.  Now that is just my opinion.  Now Beaver doesnt get catches and doesnt get as many TD's cause that is not as big in the UWW offense.  Thats a fact.  Im also pretty sure teams key on Beaver more than Moriarty just ask any coach in the world.  UWW WR's are not as good in the past 2 years so if they are not keying on Beaver than who are they keying on.  Now that is just my opinion.  I know for a fact that Beaver will never go a game with 44 rushing yards even if he played UWW defense.   I just dont get how people who supposedly watch D3 football and played it dont think Beaver is the best back in the WIAC now and ever.  He could rush for potentially 6,000 yards for his career.  That is not just because of his Oline or his system, he has something to do with it.

[stealth]

Better watch your grammar. Old Indian is playing school teacher 

I didnt mean Oshkoshs online is terrible.  They're alright but there not Whitewaters line.  Oshkoshs center is pretty good, first team all conference worthy.  But hes probably the only one that I think would get to play for Whitewater.

[Goo 62]

Ferron is a nice YOUNG back but is not a first team all conference player.  In his last 4 games he hasnt rushed for over 85 yards.  Next year mabye but not this year.

[Just Bill]

If this message board was a neighborhood, Old Indian would be the crusty old guy who sits on his porch and screams at the rest of us to get off his lawn.

[BDB]

Remember the old saying JB, "just because you are tied to the porch doesn't mean you can't bark at the cars."