FB: Wisconsin Intercollegiate Athletic Conference

[kubiack78]

J44 I just dont understand how Beaver doesnt impress you.  You must not have seen him play that much.  He did have alot to do with me getting the awards I did.  Not every thing but alot.
If you judging him on one performance than a man of you football magnitude should know that isnt fair.

I'd still take a healthy Travis Talton over Beaver

[warhawkexpress28]

J44 I just dont understand how Beaver doesnt impress you.  You must not have seen him play that much.  He did have alot to do with me getting the awards I did.  Not every thing but alot.
If you judging him on one performance than a man of you football magnitude should know that isnt fair.

I'd still take a healthy Travis Talton over Beaver

Ive said this before and Ill say it again, Spencer Johnson

[kubiack78]

J44 I just dont understand how Beaver doesnt impress you.  You must not have seen him play that much.  He did have alot to do with me getting the awards I did.  Not every thing but alot.
If you judging him on one performance than a man of you football magnitude should know that isnt fair.

I'd still take a healthy Travis Talton over Beaver

Ive said this before and Ill say it again, Spencer Johnson

played with both of them (spencer transfered in my last year)  Trav had more break away speed before he got injured.  (just my own observations)  don't get me wrong Johnson was an awesome back.

[Mr. Downtown]

With the whole "Who's the best RB in the WIAC" history, or even this year talk. That we already know who is going to be All-Conference backs this year (Beaver, Moriarty, and Anderson).

Beaver's 2005 years, was insane, just insane. Since then, Beaver's had the yards (over 2700 yards rushing the past two seasons), but the TD numbers are really low (just 11). Now, I know, he played in fewer games then Mo and Anderson have the past couple of years due to injury. But in 2007, my vote for Running Back of the Year has to go to Moriarty and he's shown why the past two weeks with 94 carries for 602 yards and 5 rushing Touchdowns.

Those two games, against ranked Stevens Point and Platteville on the road (where La Crosse lost), are good enough number for some guys in an entire season, let alone two games!

That, and Beaver is only 40-50 yards ahead of Mo for the rushing title, and about 7 touchdowns behind Moriarty.

This week, WW takes on UW-Platteville, which I'm sure Beaver is going to have a HUGE rushing day on Senior Day, but, Oshkosh is facing River Falls. Who knows, maybe they'll let Mo get 300 yards rushing in the FIRST HALF with the mindset that he will tire himself out and won't be productive in the Second  (Seriously, who let's a team score a touchdown when they are UP by one?)

They are both great backs, but as far as 2007, Mo's been the best.

[ihavesomething2say]

Mr. Downtown:
Its good to see someone agrees with me

[bobhawk]

Can't argue with Mr. Downtown on that one.  Good call

[02 Warhawk]

As great as UWW has been over the past three seasons, Mount Union has been 10 times better. I just don't understand how a non-scholarship program can be this dominant over the past decade.

I'm not sure if this topic has already been discussed. But i was just curious on what's in the water over there in Ohio that makes the Purple Raiders a national power house year-in and year-out??

As good a UWW is this year, i don't see them coming within 3 touchdowns of MU if they would meet for the third straight year in the Stagg Bowl.

Can anyone offer any insight???

[badgerwarhawk]

We will see what the coaches in the league think soon.

[02 Warhawk]

which coaches???

[WIAC09]

Is Eau Claire getting in??

[badgerwarhawk]

which coaches???

Sorry, I wasn't responding to your question.  I was responding to the running backs debate. 

[Devil Badger Gopher]

As great as UWW has been over the past three seasons, Mount Union has been 10 times better. I just don't understand how a non-scholarship program can be this dominant over the past decade.

I'm not sure if this topic has already been discussed. But i was just curious on what's in the water over there in Ohio that makes the Purple Raiders a national power house year-in and year-out??

As good a UWW is this year, i don't see them coming within 3 touchdowns of MU if they would meet for the third straight year in the Stagg Bowl.

Can anyone offer any insight???

I would completely agree.  As I said before the UMHB/UWW game, I thought both were overrated based on where Mount Union is.  I would love to see Mount go up against the likes of Youngstown St. in 1-AA to see where they stack up.

[Devil Badger Gopher]

The Eau Claire discussion is way over.  2 conference losses does not get you in, even if they win out, and I do not see them even winning this weekend.

[Warhawk 96]

Can't argue with Mr. Downtown on that one.  Good call

I can. With three conference losses already the Titans could possibly finish with a 6-4 overall record and a losing conference record. The MVP of a conference should not have a losing conference record and should be the best player on the best team or at least the undisputed second place team. If you guys want to give him an award because he's your best player do it, that's what banquets are for

Another point is that Beaver has played much harder opponents than Moriarity. They both played Lakeland but instead of playing teams like St. Cloud State and Mary Hardin Baylor you guys played Huntingdon and Ripon......who can't even beat St. Norberts. With all that said and done Beaver still has 50 more yards? Give me a break, if he played those two teams instead it wouldn't even be a discussion.

We've already discussed the touchdowns and how we like to spread the ball around in the redzone and use him as a decoy sometimes. Maybe that's also the reason why we are number one in the redzone instead of fourth. We'll put up points while you build Mo's stats........good call.

[ihavesomething2say]

Can't argue with Mr. Downtown on that one.  Good call

I can. With three conference losses already the Titans could possibly finish with a 6-4 overall record and a losing conference record. The MVP of a conference should not have a losing conference record and should be the best player on the best team or at least the undisputed second place team. If you guys want to give him an award because he's your best player do it, that's what banquets are for

Another point is that Beaver has played much harder opponents than Moriarity. They both played Lakeland but instead of playing teams like St. Cloud State and Mary Hardin Baylor you guys played Huntingdon and Ripon......who can't even beat St. Norberts. With all that said and done Beaver still has 50 more yards? Give me a break, if he played those two teams instead it wouldn't even be a discussion.

We've already discussed the touchdowns and how we like to spread the ball around in the redzone and use him as a decoy sometimes. Maybe that's also the reason why we are number one in the redzone instead of fourth. We'll put up points while you build Mo's stats........good call.

You said this: "The MVP of a conference should not have a losing conference record and should be the best player on the best team or at least the undisputed second place team."
Really. Thats the problem with MVP awards these days.  It shouldnt be called the MVP award if thats the way it should be given out it should be the MVPOTTWTBRA (Most Valuable Player On The Team With The Best Record Award).  In 1997 the Detroit Lions went 9-7.  That tied them for 3rd in the NFC central with the Vikings and behind the 13-3 Packers and the 10-6 Buccaneers, but yet Barry Sanders tied with Favre for the MVP.  A lot of people think he should have won it outright and the only reason Favre got it because they wanted someone to have the MVP 3 years in a row.  So I guess you dont have to be on the best team to get the MVP award.