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jaypeter

Quote from: stealth on December 12, 2007, 12:24:43 AM
Any discussion about who the weather favors and why ?  I'd say WW.

I'm not necessarily sure it favors Whitewater, but they did show last week that they can play in less than ideal conditions.  If the ball starts getting slick, pushing team to the run, I have a feeling that may favor the Raiders.  Yes your back is a stud, but Mount Union's D-line has been having a fantastic year.  Beaver will still get some yards against Mount Union, but I'm not sure that it will be enough to top over Mount Union.  The wild card for me, is how well the Raiders O-line does against the Warhawks D-line.  From all accounts, UWW will be the best defense MUC has seen this year.  Will our guys be able to open holes for Kmic?  I sure hope so!

Pat Coleman

Quote from: runyr on December 13, 2007, 01:24:17 AM
Quote from: badgerwarhawk on December 12, 2007, 10:00:05 PM
Selplnig ins't taht ipmornat as lnog as the frsit and lsat ltetres are in the crorcet psoiitons bceasue we dno't raed ltetres we raed ptatrens. 
Trying to read this made me think I was going blind.   :o

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Rugman

#11492
Quote from: hscoach on December 13, 2007, 07:27:33 AM
Quote from: retagent on December 12, 2007, 11:20:22 PM
..... I think we're all college educated, or getting there, and it just seems that if one is paying for an education, they should have something to show for it. .....

I have a very good reason for my spelling errors:  I'M AN ENGINEER!

Letters and words mean very little to me.

Numbers?  Now that's a different story!
Aw hell, we live in a world where machines do most of our work anyway.  I scored in the 99th percentile in math on my SAT's 40 years ago and could once multiply two 3 digit numbers in my head.  Last time I tried to do long division on something like 6/23, it took me forever to figure out how that works again.  Especially the placement of those damn decimals.

Spelling, we're just in too much of a hurry to even go back and look at what we rote.  How else to explain a parargaph wtih transpsoed lettesr.

If you want to have some fun with spelling, carelessly type a memo so you make a bunch of spelling and transposition errors.  Then go back and run spell checker and automatically substitute the first suggestion provided.  You get some pretty funny results sometimes.  Especially with people's names.

raiderfan1983

Quote from: Old School G on December 12, 2007, 07:51:17 PM
I love you MUC guys, I really do.  You're just too easy, but, I was really hoping for more hatred.  I even gave you a couple of days.  You've gone soft.

I hate explaining a post, but, at the very least you have admit the skill guys have benefited greatly from short fields and huge holes throughout the years. 

It's just my opinion, and if you don't like then screw.

Let me try to understand this post.  Mount gets short fields because they execute on special teams and there are huge holes because they execute on offense.  Because they execute so well, it takes away from the "skill" players?  If I am understanding this post correctly, great "skill" players only exist on horrible teams where the "skill" players have to do everything themselves.  If I am not reading this post correctly, please enlighten me.  It's not that I don't like your opinion, it's just that the opinion does not make logical sense to me.
They should have practiced harder.

jaypeter

Maybe we had too much of AO last week, but I read your post as a bit of a "tongue-in-cheek" sort of argument.  I didn't get riled up by the 'average skill players' part of your post because I felt you weren't being completely serious.

footballfan413

Sakman and Family,
     I am so sorry to hear about your loss.  My thoughts and prayers are with you all.  You will be missed this weekend.
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badgerwarhawk

Sak, my sympathies for your loss.   May your loved one rest in peace. 



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retagent

#11497
Nice Front Page story about Mr Beaver who seems to be an impressive person, in addition to being an impressive football player, (and not an uneducated boob)

Also, there was a nice story about Borzick and Blaziewski in the Kenosha News today. I tried to find it on the net in order to give a link, without success. (I get the actual paper delivered) Maybe someone on here can find it and post it.

HScoach

Since I'm a numbers-guy and there is a yearly discussion on the relative strength of conference schedules and playoff regions, I thought I take a look at the statistics for Mount Union and Whitewater contrast them as regular season versus playoffs. 

I think it's safe to assume that everyone agrees that the WIAC is a tougher league (more balanced) top to bottom than the OAC, so you would expect Mount's numbers to come down in the playoffs and possibly UWW's numbers to go up.  But the question is by how much?  It's also safe to assume that the WIAC and OAC in most years have better 2nd, 3rd, 4th place teams that are better than many of the playoff qualifiers.  Though this year I don't buy it in the OAC because of the lack of QB's in conference.  However the OAC had some very good defenses this season (Capital, ONU and BW).

I further believe that the playoff opponents for UWW and MUC are pretty even strength wise.  No doubt that UWW had a much better Semi-Final opponent in MHB than MUC did in Bethel, but MUC had a tougher Regional Final against SJF than UWW did against Wabash.  I would further suppose that Round 1 was pretty close with Ithaca and Capital being pretty solid teams (though in different ways).  Same with Round 2, both decent opponents but completely outclassed by UWW and MUC.


Playoff Games vs. Regular Season   

MOUNT UNION
-17.5 yds / Total Offense (gained)
+143.5 yds / Total Defense (surrendered)
-7 yds / Rush Offense (gained)
42 yds / Rush Defense(surrendered)
-7 / Pass Offense(gained)
14 / Pass Efficiency Defense(surrendered)
4 / Pass Efficiency Offense(gained)
-0.35 / Scoring Offense(gained)
9.85 / Scoring Defense(surrendered)
0 / Turnover Margin
   
   
   
WHITEWATER
Not ranked / Total Offense (gained)
-7 / Total Defense (surrendered)
38.5 / Rush Offense (gained)
-24.5 / Rush Defense(surrendered)
Not ranked / Pass Offense(gained)
-2 / Pass Efficiency Defense(surrendered)
Not ranked / Pass Efficiency Offense(gained)
7.05 / Scoring Offense(gained)
0.8 / Scoring Defense(surrendered)
1.05 / Turnover Margin
   

SUMMARY? 
Well, it confirms that the WIAC has presented a tougher challenge to Whitewater than they've seen to date in the playoffs.  And it confirms that Mount's regular season was much easier than their playoff opponents. 

Surprisingly, the defensive numbers on Mount are way, WAY up when compared to the regular season.  Specifically 143 yds and 10 points more given up per game in the playoffs, which tells me that the Mount defense got fat on some really poor offenses in the regular season.  The Mount offensive numbers are almost identical and point to the MUC offense being well prepared for the playoffs.

For Whitewater, they are maintaining most of their defensive averages while IMPROVING their offensive numbers, especially scoring at +7 per game.

What I find very interesting, and confirms my belief that this is going to be a much closer game than most think, is how close the playoff stats for both teams are.

Total Defense:  MUC = 260 yds   /   UWW = 261 yds
Rush Offense:  MUC = 264 yds   /   UWW = 249 yds
Rush Defense:  MUC = 54 yds   /   UWW = 63 yds
Scoring Defense:   MUC = 12.2   /   UWW = 14.0

The big difference offensively is the MUC passing game, but given the weather forecast of "70% chance of freezing rain", the passing game might be best left in the hotel.

Clearly both teams will be facing their toughest opponent since they hooked up in the last Stagg.  Just like it should be!

Good luck to all traveling to Salem, VA.
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I just hope Ward is not too rough on the Beav tomorrow evening.

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JT

Quote from: Knightstalker on December 13, 2007, 11:25:39 AM
I just hope Ward is not too rough on the Beav tomorrow evening.

+k for a Revenge of the Nerds reference

stealth

Please do not compare an all american family show with football where members of the team use foul language, etc. We are offended.  ;)
Regards,
Ward, June, Wally and Beaver
Quote from: Knightstalker on December 13, 2007, 11:25:39 AM
I just hope Ward is not too rough on the Beav tomorrow evening.
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Goo 62

6,335 career rushing yards, which rank second in Division III history and top the school and WIAC lists, and his school-record 43 touchdowns. He's a three-time all-American and three-time Gagliardi finalist. With even a modest performance on Saturday, he'll pass former Heisman Trophy winner Ron Dayne (6,397 career yards) for 10th place on the all-divisions rushing list.

Moriaty still better?

dawarhawksrock

Goo62,
Seeing that Beaver only needs 62 yards to pass Ron Dayne. My only question is when does he do it. His first run or later in the game?
Moriarity what team did Oshkosh lose to in the playoffs. Oh yeah they were one of the teams that DIDN'T Qualify. So saying Moriarity is better is like saying Mary Hardin Baylor is a better team then Whitewater.
GO HAWKS POUND THE ROCK

jaypeter

Given Beaver's (don't worry, I got the apostraphy in the right place) prowess as a runner, and Mount Union's run-defense, does Beaver get the yards to pass Dayne on Saturday?  If so, by how much?