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OxyBob

Quote from: footballfan413 on December 02, 2008, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: RacineWarhawk91 on December 01, 2008, 09:25:10 PM
5. Whitewater's commitment to a quality education also helps with continued improvements to academic facilities.  They have nationally recognized schools of business and education.
But maybe you should delete #5.  Some posters on these boards, (namely Oxybob,) believe that the student population of UWW is comprised of a nothing but a bunch of academically underachieving C students.  Would hate to burst their bubble! 

The median GMAT score for all test takers is about 540. The median GMAT score for students at UW-Whitewater College of Business and Economics is 479. The median GMAT score for a top-tier business school like Wharton is 710, and it's 650 for a second-tier business school like Smeal.

On the other hand, Whitewater has a swell football team.

OxyBob

janesvilleflash

That's just the point OB. The WW business school is SO GOOD, they take people with the lower scores and transform them into bussiness gurus who dominate the business world, and hire and fire the likes of Wharton grads.
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02 Warhawk

Quote from: footballfan413 on December 02, 2008, 04:33:30 PM
Quote from: DuffMan on December 02, 2008, 04:13:45 PM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 02, 2008, 08:13:43 AM
Some posters on these boards, (namely Oxybob,) believe that the student population of UWW is comprised of a nothing but a bunch of academically underachieving C students.  Would hate to burst their bubble!   ;D

It's the truth!
Now Duff, you know better than that.  Can't generalize about an entire school.  Like when people say that the Johnnie alumni are nothing but a bunch of arrogant, pompous a$$holes. Just isn't right!   ;) ;D

that basically sums up my 4.5 years at whitewater! 8)

GBMAN

Quote from: janesvilleflash on December 02, 2008, 06:17:23 PM
That's just the point OB. The WW business school is SO GOOD, they take people with the lower scores and transform them into bussiness gurus who dominate the business world, and hire and fire the likes of Wharton grads.

Good one Flash!!

kestrel

And let's not forget George W. Bush holds a MBA from Harvard.
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bleedpurple

OXYBOB ON NWC BOARD:
Quote from: OxyBob on Yesterday at 04:10:13 pm

The student population of Whitewater is 5+ times that of Willamette. 75% of the freshmen admitted to Willamette have GPAs over 3.50 (52% are over 3.75). By contrast 70% of the freshmen admitted to Whitewater have GPAs under 3.50 and of those *30%* have GPAs under 3.00. Repeat: Thirty frickin percent of Whitewater freshmen did not have a B average in high school. 76% of Willamette freshmen are in the top quarter of their high school class; 68% of Whitewater freshmen are not. I wonder how often Lance Leipold has to consult with an admissions officer to get a borderline player into Whitewater. Hmmm, let me take a guess -- never.

Compared with Willamette, Whitewater has a much bigger student body, virtually nonexistent admissions standards, and low cost in-state tuition. They can get any player that they want or any player who wants to go there or any player that they steal from another conference.

Whitewater's good at football? Big deal. Heck, they better be.

OxyBob
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Hey Bob, are you that kid we used to beat up in high school? You sure sound like it. I'm not even going to bother to ask you to provide the sources for your statistics, because that would be beside the point. Here's the deal:

You are on a football message board. You have posted over 100 times on various boards at d3 sports, a good many on this very board. The topic is FOOTBALL. And you say, "Whitewater's good at football? Big deal. Heck, they better be." Yes, Whitewater is good at football. Very good. Good enough that you obviously don't feel like the preppy little, snobbist, elite, rich kid Jr. College you root for would stand a chance if they were ever competent enough to get far enough into the playoffs to play them.

OxyBob, why don't you start a movement to create an NCAA D4. It could consist of all the schools who buy into your philosophy and would rather whine and complain rather than make the commitment to do what they have to do to compete with Whitewater. I KNOW Linfield would never join you. Willamette would never join you. My guess is most of your conference wouldn't join you. I know, you could have each player take a standardized test the morning of the game and use a fancy formula to add that to the score on Saturday afternoon. After all, what happens on Saturday afternoon is only football. "Big deal".

Oh and Bob? I don't think you should use the word "frickin". It doesn't reflect well on your preppy school.

footballfan413

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Quote from: kestrel on December 02, 2008, 07:12:18 PM
And let's not forget George W. Bush holds a MBA from Harvard.

Had to log on just to give you + karma for this one.  Laughed my public university educated a$$ off!   ;D
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footballfan413

I had decided not to take the bait.  Bob is just licking his wounds because we beat the team that whopped his beloved Tigers.  8)
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"Three things you don't want to be in football, slow, small and friendly!"  John Madden

"You can learn more character on the two-yard line than anywhere else in
life." Paul Dietzel / LSU

Warhawk 96

Who gives a rip about admissions standards? All that means is that we give more people an opportunity to learn, it doesn't mean that they graduate. Your point would be valid if everyone who enrolled in college graduated. Wait a minute, I thought the topic was football?  
2007, 2009, 2010, 2011 NCAA Division 3 Champions.
2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 WIAC Champions.

switch92

For the record....

According to David Hawkins of the National Association for College Admission Counseling "Exclusivity in regards to admission helps determine any colleges reputation...."

albeit 2006 numbers....

Whitewater - 77.5%
Willamette - 76.2%


I'll interpret for anyone who can't figure it out.... although Willamette is a much smaller school and supposedly "better," they admit the same percentage of their applicants as UW-Whitewater.

Source: USA TODAY
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-11-02-collegerates_x.htm

bulk19

Congrats to UWSP's Brad Vickroy, named WIAC Player of the Year...

As he notes in a story in today's Stevens Point Journal, defensive linemen just keep plugging away without much recognition...

http://www.stevenspointjournal.com/article/20081202/SPJ02/812020649

Warhawk 96

Quote from: switch92 on December 02, 2008, 09:35:44 PM
For the record....

According to David Hawkins of the National Association for College Admission Counseling "Exclusivity in regards to admission helps determine any colleges reputation...."

albeit 2006 numbers....

Whitewater - 77.5%
Willamette - 76.2%


I'll interpret for anyone who can't figure it out.... although Willamette is a much smaller school and supposedly "better," they admit the same percentage of their applicants as UW-Whitewater.

Source: USA TODAY
http://www.usatoday.com/news/education/2006-11-02-collegerates_x.htm


Man, it must really suck to be those 5 guys who didn't get into Mary Hardin-Baylor

UNIVERSITY OF MARY HARDIN-BAYLOR 1,152 1,147 99.6%
2007, 2009, 2010, 2011 NCAA Division 3 Champions.
2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011 WIAC Champions.

D O.C.

In case OxyBob's team ever draws the Perkins, do spats work in slush? Does hair gel freeze at 0 Celsius? Does the stadium provide Au Pair facilities?
Thanks for the help.

RacineWarhawk91

I don't know much about admission standards.  What I do know is I had the opportunity to earn a great education.  I also know that I graduated Magna Cum Laude, a Chancellor Scholar Athlete and I was hired to teach the day after I finished student teaching.  I got everything (except a National Championship) out of my big, public, watered-down education.   ;)

... by the way, if the tuition is that low, maybe you would like to pay back my student loans!
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Barber Greene

#15434
Quote from: OxyBob on December 02, 2008, 05:56:02 PM
Quote from: footballfan413 on December 02, 2008, 08:13:43 AM
Quote from: RacineWarhawk91 on December 01, 2008, 09:25:10 PM
5. Whitewater's commitment to a quality education also helps with continued improvements to academic facilities.  They have nationally recognized schools of business and education.
But maybe you should delete #5.  Some posters on these boards, (namely Oxybob,) believe that the student population of UWW is comprised of a nothing but a bunch of academically underachieving C students.  Would hate to burst their bubble! 

The median GMAT score for all test takers is about 540. The median GMAT score for students at UW-Whitewater College of Business and Economics is 479. The median GMAT score for a top-tier business school like Wharton is 710, and it's 650 for a second-tier business school like Smeal.

On the other hand, Whitewater has a swell football team.

OxyBob

First of all, the GMAT is a test for graduate business school.   Whitewater's MBA focuses on the working individual. That is the market they serve. I got an MBA there and got an excellent education. They are not in the market to attract the top scoring GMAT crowd.

Since test scores rank high with you OxyBob, undergrad business students passing the CPA exam at Whitewater often rank in the top five in the country in the percentage that pass on the first take. How do Occidental students rank? Believe me, doing well on the CPA exam is a lot harder to do than doing well on the GMAT, GRE, and SAT.


"Once again University of Wisconsin-Whitewater accounting students outranked the national competition on the Uniform CPA Examination."

http://www.mbablogs.businessweek.com/fengj/archive/2008/02/29/j8yfbh7tkebf