Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[Matt Barnhart (kid)]

WCswann28sis,
The voters thought that Wesley was the strongest team to come out of a very weak South Region.
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I don't know that the voters see the South as "very weak",

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I agree.  The south region is fine ... we've had our years (with Trinity and Bridgewater) where the south could have been considered the toughest region.  Changes year to year.

This season, a 7-2 DePauw team lost by only three points to the north's #1-seed (Wabash) ... a 6-4 CNU team lost by only a touchdown to the east region champion (Rowan) ... and Mary Hardin-Baylor defeated the NWC's 2nd place team (the NWC being Linfield's conference) Williamette 45-24.

So those are some nice looking south region wins or losses versus a north, east and west team.  I'm sure there are others.

But I suppose people will think the south is weak when the regional champ (Wesley) gets beat by 52 in the semis.  As did the east's Rowan (by 52) in the 2004 semis.  As did the south's Bridgewater (by 66) in the 2003 semis.

[Bwana]

But I suppose people will think the south is weak when the regional champ (Wesley) gets beat by 52 in the semis.  As did the east's Rowan (by 52) in the 2004 semis.  As did the south's Bridgewater (by 66) in the 2003 semis.

Yep-"What Have You Done for Me Lately" is more than a Janet Jackson song-it seems to be the first question asked by pollsters at all levels...

[Ralph Turner]

The mathematical probability of any region is to get 6 teams in the top 25!

[Bwana]

The mathematical probability of any region is to get 6 teams in the top 25!

Absolutely...but if the voters thought a region was very weak (as you suggested above), then I doubt the voters would succumb to the mathematical probability you mention and voted fewer teams to the Top 25

I think the results indicate that the voters thought the South region teams were good and talented but not world beaters...which is a far cry from very weak

[Pat Coleman]

Except that the expected distribution would also be to have one in the top 4, one from 5-8, one from 9-12, etc. That didn't happen.

[Bwana]

Except that the expected distribution would also be to have one in the top 4, one from 5-8, one from 9-12, etc. That didn't happen.

Pat-

I confess I am slow on the statistical stuff-shoot, we were just moving from abacuses to slide rules when I was in college, but I don't understand where you are going.

I am not suggesting that the 2005 south region was necessarily equal to the other regions.  If it was, then I would expect the one in each four position increment. 

All I am suggesting is that if the South was truly considered to be very weak, then isn't it reasonable to think that the South would have had less than a quarter of the top 25 slots?

But that did not happen...in fact, I bet if you did an average of the slots held by each region (Position 1=1 point, etc), the South would not have the  highest total.

But as I said, I am not a statistical expert or an IT whiz, just sort of thinking out loud...

[wesley18]

What a great year Welsey pulled off this year.  I think their #10 ranking will be inspiration for next year.  As far as the voting, I feel that if you make the final four you should at least be no further down than #6, but hey that's just me. You can't help what region you're placed into come playoffs. 

[Pat Coleman]

No, but we're not going to punish teams with tougher matchups either.

[religion_major]

In all reality the playoffs are very poor at determaining what order teams 2-12 or so should be in.  They are very good at determaining the #1 team which is what they are designed to do.  For Wesley, I would say that it is an acomplishment to make the top ten, but I don't see any what to differentiate between teams 3 or 4 to team 10 to 12 other than the opinion of the voters.

[PA_wesleyfan]

Happy Holidays to you all. Lets get the posts going early and often next year and support the conference like you all did during the playoffs. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

Good health to all .

[pg04]

It's been a while since I posted so............

Happy New Year to all ACFC supporters and all of D3 in general! 

Congrats to Wesley on its great run. 

[Hampton U SID]

interesting schedule posted for you guys bport.....we're coming up in November this year....

brrrrrrrrrrr

[PA_wesleyfan]

sid

just think you could be going from a hurrican to a blizzard the same day!!!

interesting schedule posted for you guys bport.....we're coming up in November this year....

brrrrrrrrrrr

[pg04]

interesting schedule posted for you guys bport.....we're coming up in November this year....

brrrrrrrrrrr

November isn't that bad....hahaha...

Brockport's Schedule looks to be the bear it usually is, though it does get SLIGHTLY easier on the scale, I would assume, with the addition of Morrisville, taking the place of Rowan, who's home and home with the port is over. 

[Hampton U SID]

Oh yeah...upstate NY + November = good possibility of white stuff

we're still looking for one game