Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[PA_wesleyfan]

hmm we aren't exactly talking about football in the Capitol conference are we?? Ya I am cranky tonight...

[PA_wesleyfan]

Conrad

  Are Lano and Lee back yet??

  I expect you will be calling a shoot out Saturday..

[Pat Coleman]

hmm we aren't exactly talking about football in the Capitol conference are we??

I guess not if you're using Wesley baseball as an example of ... uhh ... you know, I have no idea what.

[PA_wesleyfan]

  Just wondering why there is no way Catholic would stay in a conference Wesley would be in.  And my baseball comparison was just that.  The can play them in baseball but not football? You make it sound as if Wesley isn't fit to be in the same hemisphere as Catholic

There wasn't much likelihood that Catholic and Wesley would have been in the CAC at the same time. Catholic and Goucher did not want to be associated with Wesley (or Villa Julie) on a conference level.

Villa Julie may add football. First heard that about a year ago, waiting on the formal announcement.

[Ralph Turner]

  Just wondering why there is no way Catholic would stay in a conference Wesley would be in.  And my baseball comparison was just that.  The can play them in baseball but not football? You make it sound as if Wesley isn't fit to be in the same hemisphere as Catholic

There wasn't much likelihood that Catholic and Wesley would have been in the CAC at the same time. Catholic and Goucher did not want to be associated with Wesley (or Villa Julie) on a conference level.

Villa Julie may add football. First heard that about a year ago, waiting on the formal announcement.

PA Wesleyan, Let me step in here and give an outside assessment of what might be occurring in the Catholic/Capital AC issue.

We have seen this all over the country.  Schools want to be seen with their "peers".

A great place to start looking at the groupings is to look at 2 documents:

USNews College Guide

Thomson/Peterson's College Guide for some demographics and campus facts.

A third document will give some information about the endowments, which is another way that schools can look at who might be peers.

National Association of College and University Business Officers

You can also disnguish yourself with a Phi Beta Kappa Chapter.


If you look in the USNews link, you see

1)  National Universities
2)  National Liberal Arts Colleges
3)  Master's Universities (by Regions)
4)  Comprehensive Colleges (by Regions)

Wesley is #24 of 35 Northern Comprehensive Colleges.  (VJC is #16.)  Catholic is #120 of 126 Top National Universities, including a majority of D1's.  There are real criteria by which the Catholic Board and the Administration can identify their peers.  I can see the distinctions that one could make.  Catholic did not see St Mary's of Maryland as an academic peer, even St Mary's is a top tier Comprhenensive College.

The ASC has 15 members, of which 12 are listed in the Top Tier of the Master's Universities or Comprehensive Colleges.  Still Austin College is listed as tied at #74 in National Liberal Arts Colleges.  Austin College was a charter member of the ASC.  They saw their peers as being in the SCAC where one sees these SCAC members:

26) Colorado College
T34) U South
44)  Centre
T45)  Rhodes
T48) DePauw
T57) Southwestern
T69) Hendrix
T74) B-SC
T74) Austin College
T82) Millsaps

Trinity TX is #1 among Western Region Master's Universities.  Only Oglethorpe University is not listed in the top tiers.  If one has a question of where one's alma mater's peers are located, then you can look at those documents.  More than likely, your alma mater is already in the Conference where it wants to be.  If it is looking to move up, they are probably known to be looking.

Like the Landmark Conference, those schools Catholic, Goucher, et al. saw a way to improve their neighborhood and acted with the shuffling that is occurring.  I expect more to occur as well.

[PA_wesleyfan]

wesley 14 huntingdon 0 13 min. to half

[PA_wesleyfan]

Ralph

I understand all that. But sometimes certain people don't understand that Catholic is actually a DI school academics with D III athletics.

  That and I like to prod pcole once in a while 


 

[PA_wesleyfan]

Welsey D holds Huntingdon to 3 after a first and goal inside the 1. Wesley giving up some yrds in the air but none on the ground. Wesley 21  Huntingdon 3

[Ralph Turner]

Ralph

I understand all that. But sometimes certain people don't understand that Catholic is actually a DI school academics with D III athletics.

  That and I like to prod pcole once in a while   

I believe that Catholic was the most recent D1 to move up to D3 prior to Birmingham Southern.

[Hampton U SID]

salisbury 25, nna 0
ithaca 26, brockport 7

[PA_wesleyfan]

Sid wha happnd?? I thought the builders would give it ti SSu
  Wesley won 38-17 over 1100yrds O. for both teams . Huntingdon ran 88 plays geeeh.. Pass and stop the clock  lol

[Hampton U SID]

three turnovers...two interceptions....two snaps over punters head.....wasnt pretty.
we had 55 plays...for 55 yards

sounds like an ol' fashioned gunslinger show in Huntingdon

[PA_wesleyfan]

 Wesley did score quick a few times and the D was on the field a lot. They have the stats on Huntingdon's page. Did you have rain down in NN today sid?

[Hawks88]

My hat's off to Wesley as the obviously better team won today. I could go into how HC had two trips in to the red zone that netted zero points and at least five or six dropped passes that could have helped but there's also the fact that in the 4th Wesley had two trips into the red zone that only netted 3 points. So it could have been much closer and it could have been much worse. I am proud of our guys for keeping on fighting all the way to the end. Good luck to Wesley on the rest of your season. Now I guess we pretty much have to win out to get a shot at that playoff slot.

[Hampton U SID]

gorgeous day....had rain Thursday night here.....but beautiful most of yesterday and all of today

just got the game file on wesley....wow.....going to go on that limb and say I'll bet a lot of the awards next week will be in blue and white