Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[Ralph Turner]

I wouldn't be so sure about in-region. Guess we'll see.

The SLIAC teams are in a different adminstrative region than HC and LG.  Already, HC and LG get to play teams in their adminstrative region (#3)

It would actually be to Huntingdon's and LaGrange's advantage to be moved to the "North" or the "West"  Region, wherever the SLIAC is located.

Oh my, what did I say! 

Oh well, if the Dallas Cowboys can be in the NFL East, then I guess that HC and LG can be in the West.

[Hawks88]

The SLIAC teams are in a different adminstrative region than HC and LG.  Already, HC and LG get to play teams in their adminstrative region (#3)

It would actually be to Huntingdon's and LaGrange's advantage to be moved to the "North" or the "West"  Region, wherever the SLIAC is located.

Oh my, what did I say! 

Oh well, if the Dallas Cowboys can be in the NFL East, then I guess that HC and LG can be in the West.

Or maybe they could swap the SLIAC from north to south and the PAC from south to north since having Pennsylvania schools in the south seems funny too. 

[AF4]

the scac schools appear un interested in  huntingdon anymore, B'ham southern says (or so a couple coaches on both sides told me) that they were not planning on playing huntingdon until 2010

faulkner (NAIA) will buid a pretty good team quicky, i thank they will b pretty good this first yr..... i just hope we can beat them

as far as the St louis/badger kids coming to the DEEP south to visit warm springs and selma/montgomery... that would be good... as it would b good for our kids to visit thangs above the mason - dixon.....(i thought the mason dixon ran through chattanooga....i no thangs begin to change the further from nooga i get )

the word i get about this conference change is excitement at huntingdon... Hawkes88 would have a better handle on that, but i do no the boy that looks like me, but a lot bigger and younger, is real excited

llama guy.... good to see hero... cuse u r there i,m gonna follow bridgewater this yr

[Ralph Turner]

With the movement of Brockport and SUNY-Morrisville to the NJAC, and Huntingdon and LaGrange moving to the SLIAC, do we have any rumors of the next move by the ACFC?

The only remaining independents in the eastern half of the US in 2008 will be the ACFC members (Wesley, Salisbury and Frostburg plus NNA), Becker, Husson and Mt Ida and SUNY Maritime.

The consolidation continues.

[PA_wesleyfan]

Ralph

I don't know but with Wesley already looking to fill this years schedule maybe there is something cooking in the Capitol Conference in the very near future. Unless the MAC wants Wesley and Salisbury and Frostburg moving westerly.

[FSU Bobcats]

Seems like the ACFC is on it's deathbed right now.  Does the Capitol Conference do football only members because I have a hard time seeing us leaving the AMCC since we were a founding member.

[PA_wesleyfan]

FSU

The opinion on the boards is that the Capitol could opt that way as Salisbury and Wesley as well as Galludet will have football and Villa Julia is thinking of starting a team.. But it probably isn't going to happen in the next year... So all of the ACFC schools will have a challenge to fill out schedules.

[Ralph Turner]

Seems like the ACFC is on it's deathbed right now.  Does the Capitol Conference do football only members because I have a hard time seeing us leaving the AMCC since we were a founding member.

FSU Bobcats, I think that there is a very good chance that you are at the table as a "charter affiliate" for any discussions that the Capital may have. 

[FSU Bobcats]

That's good to hear.  Like I said, I don't see us leaving the AMCC because of the strong regional rivals we've developed.  The only way I could see us leaving the AMCC is if we desired to expand our rivalry with Salisbury.  Come to think of it, what wouldn't be a bad thing if we decided to go that way. 

[Pat Coleman]

I don't know if that's a particularly strong reading of the situation. Frostburg is isolated in the AMCC and incurs a ton of travel to be in that league. You have to travel more than 300 miles to do the Medaille/Hilbert trip.

Frostburg wanted to be in the CAC in the mid-'90s but wasn't invited. While the leadership of both groups has changed since then, I would bet there's still a desire to be in the league. Sure, it's a long way to Salisbury but Frostburg is already playing their in-state rivals in just about everything anyway.

Ponder this CAC:
East: Wesley, Salisbury, York, Villa Julie, St. Mary's
West: Frostburg, Marymount, Mary Washington, Hood, Gallaudet

150 miles to Mary Washington, 99 miles to Hood, 142 to Marymount, 144 miles to Gallaudet

Did I get everyone? Think so.

That's a pretty good fit, and I believe even with the other nine schools the CAC may not have enough for an automatic bid in every sport. Frostburg can help the CAC meet that goal.

[Ralph Turner]

Looks good Pat.

Capital AC sponsors these sports.
Field hockey:  Minus CUA and GOU; FSU would replace one.
Softball:  Minus CUA: FSU has it.
Women's lacrosse:  CUA and GOU are leaving; FSU has a team.  Do they add a men's team?

FSU is isolated in the AMCC as well.

[Dave 'd-mac' McHugh]

Just a thought on the CAC... Frostburg apparently was interested in reapplying for membership, but wanted to wait out getting their new president and letting that person make the decision. I don't know if that might hurt them as everyone deals with the recent shake-ups.

Seconldy, they would have to come in as a full-member - as indicated. They would not be able to come in as a part-timer, since the CAC by-laws don't allow it (unless those are changed!).

As much bring Frostburg into the equation is... I don't think its going to be a simple one.

Also, I realize the list you put up there Pat may not have counted as only football based, but of the schools you mentioned in the ten possible in a bigger CAC, six of them would have to add football programs (granted, not all of them would for AQ reasons, I realize). I see that problematic for a school like Marymount (facilities... don't even have any for the programs they have). I know VJC has thought about it, but my read from them is that isn't in the immediate future. As for SMC, UMW, Hood and others... I could see them adding the sport, but at a slower pace. And Gallaudet may have a varsity program now... but their accreditation is up for debate and a lot of CAC schools have not been happy with the goings on at that campus. There has been speculation about punting them out of the CAC - don't know if that will happen though.

Of course... with the way things are working and changing these days in this "region"... anything is possible!!!

[Pat Coleman]

I don't think anyone was proposing all 10 CAC teams add football.

If enough schools want bylaws changed, it could certainly happen, I would think. You need to have four full members in order to add single-sport members to reach automatic bid status. However, with the unsure footing of Gallaudet football, the CAC would really need five full members.

[FSU Bobcats]

Interesting stuff guys.  Thanks for the input.

[PA_wesleyfan]

Wesley posted their 2007, 9 game schedule. Looks like 6 regional games.
Not a cake walk for sure. Bad news is they probably lose two of these games next year. Maybe something will come up with the C.A.C. will get tougher and tougher to fill a schedule

1 Saturday North Carolina Wesleyan Home 1:00 

8 Saturday Delaware Valley Home 1:00 

14 Saturday Widener University Away 7:00   
22 Saturday TBA     

29 Saturday Huntingdon College Home 1:00   
October
6 Saturday Frostburg State University Home 1:00 

13 Saturday Newport News Away 1:00 

20 Saturday SUNY Brockport Away 1:00 

27 Saturday Salisbury University Home 1:00 

November
3 Saturday TBA     

10 Saturday SUNY Morrisville Away 1:00