Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[IchKriegIhnNichtHoch]

Hahah While playing for Wesley I have seen my fair share of classless moments on the part of several Wesley personalities.  But please spare me...Someone from SU talking to people from Wesley about showing class is as good a case as the pot calling the kettle black as I have ever heard.  Both parties are as guilty in the matter so it should never be brought up to begin with.  It is a conference game played by two teams that are separated by merely 40 minutes of the same highway.  Wesley hates SU and SU hates Wesley...So take your licks and run with them like we had to in 04 when we lost at your place. 

As far as how the game went...It was very indicative of how the season has gone for Wesley.  Special teams sparks the win.  We'll take the wins any way we can get them just like any other team.  Sorry about your luck...

[SU Backer]

 wesleydad, The players from SU coming onto the field before the seniors ceremony ended was not good - but don't blame the players, either a coach or other gameday personnel instructed them to go to their sideline, they don't go anywhere unless told to go. When they run to their sideline their fans cheer...just like every other team-so don't blame the fans. If it was a SU coach that told the kids to go it's his fault, and I don't believe it was intentional if that's what happened. Some Wesley players heckled the SU fans at that time too....they're kids, I didn't care....that stuff just hapens when kids get into the atmosphere of a big game like this.
As far as the stats go, my intention was to discredit the false view that this game was in anyway a blowout. I understand fans see things one sided, but come on, a blowout? It ended 20-13, the score and stats were very close-the difference in the game is a kick return for a touchdown-that is a fact. I agree Wesley was the better team Saturday - they won and deserved that win-that is a fact. They were also playing at home on senior day-that is a fact too!
I look forward to this game every year-win or lose- it is usually the biggest regular season game of the year for both squads. I know that was a heck of a game from where I sat. I got upset with Wesley24's calling out the SU quartebacking, both SU kids played a hell of a game, and one went down with a broken collar bone in the game as well.  They both can and do throw the ball very well.

[PA_wesleyfan]

Nothing like a good old rivalry to get some banter going here.

It's always rather quiet in here.

It'll be interesting to see what lies ahead for these two teams when they finish there bussiness in two weeks. Could be a second week of the playoffs rematch

[Teamski]

Hey folks, I'm new to the board.  I'm a Wesley fan from the local neighborhood....

That said, the game was anything but a blow-out.  Wesley did have the drop on SU for the majority of the game though, being up by 10 for a good portion of it.  However, the fat lady didn't sing until the interception by Wesley late in the 4th, so no way was it a route.

I couldn't believe the dropped pass in the endzone by SU in the 1st quarter.  That would of definately changed the tone of the game for sure.  Instead, Beaver's kick-off return ended SU's momentum almost immediately.

A couple key points won the day for Wesley:

1.  The defense was the real difference.  Except for the few big yardage plays, they did one hell of a job for the most part in shutting down the quarterback option, forcing the passing game in the 4th that ended in the broken collarbone.

2.  NO TURNOVERS!!  Had Wesley turned the ball over as they had done earlier in the season the game would of been good as lost.  SU's explosive offense would of capitalized big-time.  However, Schatz didn't throw any intereceptions and the ball was well protected.  SU was lucky that they didn't lose more fumbles in the game than they did. 

SU was one tough opponent.  The running game was strong, if not predictable further into the game.  Their running backs were big!!  Hats off to the starting quarterback.  He's got definate skills in running the option!!

-Ski

[Bigtoe75]

Here is an opinion article from the local rag

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071028/SPORTS/710280358

The SU defense did a good job holding Wesley's talented offense to 13 points.  However, their tackling was awful against Wesley's running back who was dragging the pile 5 yards every play.  The SU offense had two passes dropped in the endzone as Valdase Morris dropped a low throw in the endzone as well.  SU didn't capitalize on their chances and they needed to in order to beat Wesley.

The Wesley defense was the difference as their d-line disrupted SU's blocking all day.  I was shocked when I saw that SU had 400 yards of offense, because it sure didn't seem like it from watching the game.  The Beavers kickoff return was the perfect counterpunch when SU took the lead

SU would have to play a near perfect game to beat Wesley at home, and that clearly didn't happen on Saturday.

[njlincolnlion]

PA_wesleyfan:

I have heard any official word on Sheahin.  Unofficially, as everyone knows, it's a broken collarbone.  I wish Bobby a speedy and full recovery.  Fortunately, the Gulls had depth/experience in the QB position, unlike when Dustin Johnson went down a few years ago.  Bobby's injury takes away Salisbury's passing option, but the option have been great for the Gulls.

With the ACFC crown gone, it's on to the Reagents Cup and post season play!

[@d3jason]

SU Backer---
I think you need to consider the source when viewing Wesley24's post. Glotting is classless. It is also bad karma and I think his karma score reflects that.

As far as SU's quarterbacking, I was very impressed with Ronnie Curley. He is a tough kid and a leader. When Tillage dropped the sure touchdown pass in the first quarterback, he ran down to the end zone and to pick up his teammate. You could almost see him saying, "shake it off, we'll need you later and we got your back."

As far as SU missing tackles on Pennewell, he's done that all year. Ask Frostburg, and or check out the link to WDEL posted on early pages on this board. He is elusive, but also very strong and finishes nearly every run. Salisbury did the best job on him of any opponent this year.

I don't know that I agree with Mr. Brennan's idea in the Daily Times article, that Salisbury should have thrown the ball more. Three interceptions resulted. Sheahin's injury may have hurt, he made one nice pass, but he looked indecisive on most of his drop backs and had to take off when the protection wasn't too bad. Probably have to credit the Wesley secondary for good coverage too.

When you run the type of offense that the Gulls run, you have to stick with it. And therein, I think, lies the problem with the scheme. When you get stuffed in the run game, you have to make plays in the passing game. That gets tougher when in a big game against a quality opponent. Mary Hardin-Baylor had the same problem against Whitewater on Saturday and the past couple of years against Wesley. Any game where the Gulls have to throw the ball more than 15 times, they are probably going to lose. I also don't like that the best ball carriers don't see the ball enough. What if Jamar Garner or Valdase Morris get the ball 20 times a game? What happens? Well they probably don't average over 10 yards a carry like now, but I think they are both capable of putting up big numbers. I also think that this offense is too likely to turn the ball over, they just put the ball on the ground too much.

[SU Backer]

 Conrad, I know you're correct about some of the comments made- I just took exception to someone that clueless calling out kids that play the hardest position in the game. I'm done with it- Wesley took care of business and won and deserved to win too. Salisbury showed up and played hard until time expired-they played as hard as any team they have had in the 5 years that I have been going-and I haven't missed a single game. The effort cannot be faulted, sometimes you just get beat.
You're also spot on about the triple option- it is tough to play from behind because passing is not the stronger part of the gameplan. What many people don't understand (that don't see it much-not referring to you), is that a few big runs per game are what it produces. The dive will get stopped a bunch of times, the option toss will get dropped for losses-but they will pop one every so often for big yards or a score. Even in games where they score a ton of points, they get stopped a lot of times too. My contention is they are a better team running when they throw more, early in the game. I agree that Valdase Morris and Jamar Garner need more touches per game-and throwing the ball to them is something that hopefully happens more. I was impressed with Curley on that dropped ball too, and Tillage has come up big more times than not for the Gulls too. The turnaround on this team started when some players were dismissed during last year's season and Tillage was elevated to a starter.
Hope to get a playoff bid, don't want the son's senior year to end yet (or ever), but whatever happens, he, and this team have provided me with some of the best times of my life!

[Bigtoe75]

SU's Bobby Sheahin is out for the year

http://www.delmarvanow.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071030/SPORTS/710300356/1006

[dedragon]

Tough news on Sheahin...

He surely would come in handy in the post season.  Remembering that play, he must have just landed perfectly to break it.  It didn't look like much when it happened.  I wonder what kind of weeks both Salisbury and Wesley are having?  With no games after the big one...

[PA_wesleyfan]

When Sheahin hit the side lines I didn't see him go down. But he was so close to the fence I thought he had slipped and hit it. He seemed to flip the ball as he went out of bounds but maybe he was already slipping at that point. The field didn't seems to be slippery but I have not walked on that side of the field's sidelines beyond the stands

[Teamski]

When Sheahin hit the side lines I didn't see him go down. But he was so close to the fence I thought he had slipped and hit it. He seemed to flip the ball as he went out of bounds but maybe he was already slipping at that point. The field didn't seems to be slippery but I have not walked on that side of the field's sidelines beyond the stands

He hit the ground pretty hard.  I'm not sure he wasn't trying to avoid the fence and got hurt in the process.

Wesley Stadium's fences are pretty close to the field.  Earlier in the game, Wesley's Teron Murray had to flip over the fence off the endzone.  Luckily, he didn't get hurt.  The fence has definately claimed victims over the years....

-Ski

[PA_wesleyfan]

There's only one game in the ACFC this week.

Brockport St. @ NNA   If you go by comparative scores NNA should win by 40.  But as has been proven over and over again that's not a good thing to do. The field had to be a mess last week at Morrisville which may have contributed to the outcome. NNA has been playing well against everyone that isn't named Salisbury or Wesley. This is B-Ports last ACFC game and NNA would love nothing more than to send them off with another loss.  I am going with the Builders this week 

[Hampton U SID]

Believe it or not the field is in pretty good shape.  We've been teased by that nor-easter (former hurricane dora) got wind..but no major rain.

Plus our field is only used 5-6 times a year (we have no soccer or field hockey to mess with).

It's gonna be blustery though (20-30 mph winds most of the day)

[Hawks88]

Hampden-Sydney leads Huntingdon 14-0 end of 1st quarter. Huntingdon has moved the ball well but turned it over twice in the red zone.
Not sure what's up with these turnovers. We haven't done this all year until last week. We were able to get away with it last week against a bad team but are about to get blown out if we don't get straightened out quick.


Now 20-7 w/about 4 min. left in 2nd quarter. HC hasn't come close to stopping Hampden-Sydney's offense yet.

Until now. HC interception on halfback pass.

Go Hawks!!