Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

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Ralph Turner

Quote from: Pat Coleman on May 30, 2008, 05:35:23 PM
If I were Tim Russert with the proverbial white board on election night, this is my "AQ math" to get the CAC to seven.

Wesley, Salisbury and Gallaudet are already in the league.
Frostburg is a fit geographically. There are no fits for this league philosophically, as it's all over the map.
Villa Julie is still talking positively about football, if not openly.
That's five core members, meaning Gallaudet's shaky football status is covered from that perspective.
If USA Great South goes through and the USAC's northern outliers don't want to travel to Huntingdon and LaGrange every other year in every sport, then Christopher Newport and Shenandoah are good additions for the CAC as full members.

This geography could, unfortunately, push York in a different direction, perhaps to the CSAC or if they can heal the bad feelings, the MAC.

I wonder if Hood, as a former women's school, is thinking about football?
Great post, Pat.

York is not football, and York could move out of the Capital AC, in which Salisbury will likely dominate in baseball in Pool A, to another baseball conference where it could have a better chance of getting an AQ.  (As in basketball, Pool B is disappearing in baseball, too, but not as quickly.)

The question about Shenandoah and the ODAC is whether the ODAC's rejection letter said,

"Thank you for your kind inquiry for potential membership in our conference of like-minded institutions seeking to provide opportunities for student-athletes"

or

"Hello"  (oops forgot to add the letter "n"!)

I have assumed the former.  I wonder if it were the latter.

Hood would see the immediate benefit by adding football, if it wished to increase male enrollment. 

I did not elaborate for other posters on the impact of 30-50 more tuition paying males at Wesley.

30 males x $20,000 net revenue per male = $600,000.  If the Wesley budget is $30M, that is an extra 5%, which makes a huge difference in the extra programs across the spectrum that the school can add, and the administration and faculty know it.

In any case, the Capital AC should not count on Galluadet for the 7th total member unless there were significant re-assurances from the administration, IMHO, (which is why I was not counting Gallaudet towards the Capital AC conference in football.)

Pat Coleman

Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on May 30, 2008, 05:45:42 PM
Pat

I have read that some of the PnAC, all non football playing schools, were moving to the MAC. I suppose that fills some of the other sports holes left by defections last year.

Some but not all. Here's the saga of the Mid-Atlantic.

http://www.d3hoops.com/dailydose/category/mid-atlantic-shuffle/
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

PA_wesleyfan

 Pat

You would think that being 5 miles from Del Val and there being a newspaper (The  Intel) that they would cover some of the  MAC conference news. Notta!!! But the paper doesn't do write ups on many sports outside of football.
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Pat Coleman

A lot of this is old news, though. The decisions have long been made, and some of the changes go into effect this fall.

You read the local paper for that stuff? Read D3hoops.com. :)
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.

PA_wesleyfan

No  ;D I meant that you would think that Doylestown being a college town that the local paper would follow some things a little closer. I read what you had mentioned
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muledaddy


The funny thing about Doylestown and the lack of coverage  of  the MAC, even thogh Del  Val

is just a few miles down the road, is that the high schools (Central Bucks East and West) are powerhouses

and they get  a whole lot of ink. Shame on the Daily Intellligencer, the town paper. Del Val deserves coverage.

PA_wesleyfan

Quote from: muledaddy on June 03, 2008, 03:05:49 PM

The funny thing about Doylestown and the lack of coverage  of  the MAC, even thogh Del  Val

is just a few miles down the road, is that the high schools (Central Bucks East and West) are powerhouses

and they get  a whole lot of ink. Shame on the Daily Intellligencer, the town paper. Del Val deserves coverage.

  muledaddy

  High School football gets the most ink in D'Town.. Of the Philly Burbs papers, the Intell has fallen the most... They don't do write ups or box scores(except wrestling) for the other sports. They do give Del Val's scores with one sentence blurbs.
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old ends

I think that I read, back in Jan, that paper was purchased. Maybe that is why the coverage slipped. ???

gordonmann

The Intelligencer actually has a great beat writer named Tom Pfaff.  Tom has been covering the Aggies faithfully for years, including through the dismal campaigns in which it was not easy to find a gold-and-green lining.  He gives up ten Saturday afternoons a year and then returns to the paper on Saturday evening where he writes and files his story.  He's one of the few beat writers in the league who travels to every game.

For some reason, many of his articles don't make it on the website.  I wish they did because he covers Del Val with a passion and creativity that is unusual at this level.  But they are in the print version and provide great coverage of Del Val and the rest of the MAC.


Ralph Turner

Quote from: gordonmann on June 04, 2008, 07:23:51 PM
The Intelligencer actually has a great beat writer named Tom Pfaff.  Tom has been covering the Aggies faithfully for years, including through the dismal campaigns in which it was not easy to find a gold-and-green lining.  He gives up ten Saturday afternoons a year and then returns to the paper on Saturday evening where he writes and files his story.  He's one of the few beat writers in the league who travels to every game.

For some reason, many of his articles don't make it on the website.  I wish they did because he covers Del Val with a passion and creativity that is unusual at this level.  But they are in the print version and provide great coverage of Del Val and the rest of the MAC.
A question in the mold of Joseph Schumpeter's Creative Destruction...

How do we get Tom Pfaff's content onto these pages?

The D3Sports.com platform is working to be the preferred platform for all things D3.  Driving fans here for D3 content ought to be the way that we can get more content, whether generated from Pat's own "factory" or using this platform as the source from which the content may be accessed.

We probably need to be reading Pfaff's stuff weekly, at the least.

PA_wesleyfan


Gordan

I agree Tom does a great job with football. My point was more pointed toward the lack of coverage throughout the rest of the year in high school sports as well as the college (except playoffs). I know that other sister papers under the phillyburbs umbrella have better coverage. I have known some of the writers for many years and what they do cover they cover with a passion. 
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gordonmann

Plus +k to Ralph for citing Schumpeter, even if I don't know the answer to his question.

Ralph Turner

Quote from: gordonmann on June 04, 2008, 11:25:35 PM
Plus +k to Ralph for citing Schumpeter, even if I don't know the answer to his question.
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Pat Coleman

Quote from: Ralph Turner on June 05, 2008, 02:23:44 PM
If he can't get it published in the Intelligencer, then why not at his tartget audience!

Well, because the paper owns it and he doesn't, for starters. :)

Perhaps we should start an e-mail campaign to get the paper to print them.
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Quote from: old 40 on September 25, 2007, 08:23:57 PMLet's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.