Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[wesleydad]

well, well, well.  with umhb losing, i guess that will quell the ship wesley to the east talk for awhile.  if they win out, they would be the logical #1 seed in the south which would make for some very interesting games in dover.  the lake erie score is interesting in that maybe wesley will have a tougher game against lake erie than they did last year.  on the flip side, that would seem to mean that salisbury is not that good taking some of the edge off the rivalry game in 2 weeks.  sounds like wesley played a sloppy game, not what you want to have mid way through the season.  lets see how they bounce back this week against webber.

[Teamski]

well, well, well.  with umhb losing, i guess that will quell the ship wesley to the east talk for awhile.  if they win out, they would be the logical #1 seed in the south which would make for some very interesting games in dover.  the lake erie score is interesting in that maybe wesley will have a tougher game against lake erie than they did last year.  on the flip side, that would seem to mean that salisbury is not that good taking some of the edge off the rivalry game in 2 weeks.  sounds like wesley played a sloppy game, not what you want to have mid way through the season.  lets see how they bounce back this week against webber.

I don't think it was as sloppy as was seen last year, or even the year before.  It was the first cold game of the year, so it might be a case of acclimatization.  

I found the following facts on the Wesley site quite interesting.  It shows that the team is doing better than you might think:

"With two more touchdown catches, Ellis Krout has 12 on the season, just one from 10th place on Wesley's career list and four short of the school's single season mark.

Shane McSweeny tossed for three more touchdowns, giving him 19 on the season, one more than his total from the entire 2008 season.

The defense has 12 interceptions this season after just 10 all of last season.

The win lowered Wesley's scoring defense to just 7.0 points/game."

Add the fact that the turnover rate is most certainly down from the last couple years.  There is a lot to be positive about.

-Ski

[PA_wesleyfan]

 Salisbury gave up two td's in 18 secs early and fell behind 28-0 in the first 16 mins. They seemsed to play even after that.  I am sure they will be ready to play in two weeks because that game with Wesley will make their season.
Mc Sweeney didn't have one of his better days pssing  and still accounted for 4 tds and 300 yrds.
Missing 3 pat.s

 Wesley needs a few tougher games in the last few weeks to get them ready for a playoff run and Lake Erie , Salisbury and Ohio Dominican could be good tests.

[wesleydad]

ski, good to hear from you.  I dont think anyone said that wesley was not doing well.  The stats are nice for the individuals and the defensive numbers are pretty impressive, but you have to look at the opposition, none have shown in any other game to be very potent offensively.  the turnovers being down is certainly a plus as that is what killed wesley the last 2 years.  how will this team respond when challenged by a team that is just as physical and quick as they are is what needs to be determined, hopefully salisbury, lake erie, and ohio dom will provide that challenge as pawesley stated.  it is tough going into the playoffs not having played a competitive game when some of the other teams have battled 4 or 5 times and are prepared for that knock down, drag out war.  umhb and miss college are 2 that come to mind in the south that will be just as big and strong as wesley.  hopes are high as they should be when you are ranked soon to be 4th in the nation.  Having a challenge to support that hope is what is needed.

[PA_wesleyfan]

 I watched the  UMHB/Miss Co game and neither team seems as fast as Wesley . What hurt UMHB IMHO was they when Miss Co.  got into the secondary there weren't enough people left to defend. They also gave up a lot of special team yards. Offensively it was tough to tell because they were missing Daniels and I think the other back broke his arm so Miss Co  keyed on the QB and then in crunch time they changed QB's. Miss Co had two big plays that led t scores. More than likely what happens now is a 4 team Texas bracket and a North Bracket but Wesley and Huntingdon have to win to get there

[Ralph Turner]

I watched the  UMHB/Miss Co game and neither team seems as fast as Wesley . What hurt UMHB IMHO was they when Miss Co.  got into the secondary there weren't enough people left to defend. They also gave up a lot of special team yards. Offensively it was tough to tell because they were missing Daniels and I think the other back broke his arm so Miss Co  keyed on the QB and then in crunch time they changed QB's. Miss Co had two big plays that led t scores. More than likely what happens now is a 4 team Texas bracket and a North Bracket but Wesley and Huntingdon have to win to get there

The only four team sub-bracket for the South involving Texas that I can imagine is this:

#1) Miss College  Pool A
#4) Huntingdon College  Pool B

#2) Millsaps College SCAC Pool A
#3) UMHB   Pool C

At most, one plane flight.

[PA_wesleyfan]

Ralph

I need a geography leason !!! LOL

[thewaterboy]

I think that this game was just to shake off some rust for the Wolverines. They should be up to speed when we see Webber next week.

As far as facing potent offenses go, Wesley handled Del Val nicely. I think with the Lake Erie win yesterday, puts more of a focus on playing well here on out. Look for Ohio Dominican to be interesting as well. But these games and the Salisbury game will help the Wolverines on playing good clean football, and I think will help them to some extent in the playoffs.

One thing to work on however, penalties. I think they are averaging over 100 yards a game in penalty yardage.

[Ralph Turner]

I watched the  UMHB/Miss Co game and neither team seems as fast as Wesley . What hurt UMHB IMHO was they when Miss Co.  got into the secondary there weren't enough people left to defend. They also gave up a lot of special team yards. Offensively it was tough to tell because they were missing Daniels and I think the other back broke his arm so Miss Co  keyed on the QB and then in crunch time they changed QB's. Miss Co had two big plays that led t scores. More than likely what happens now is a 4 team Texas bracket and a North Bracket but Wesley and Huntingdon have to win to get there

The only four team sub-bracket for the South involving Texas that I can imagine is this:

#1) Miss College  Pool A
#4) Huntingdon College  Pool B

#2) Millsaps College SCAC Pool A
#3) UMHB   Pool C

At most, one plane flight.

Ralph

I need a geography lesson !!! LOL

Huntingdon to Miss College is 256 miles.

UMHB to Millsaps is 493 miles.

Millsaps vs MissCollege is the projected second round game.  Every other matchup is a plane flight.

In the upper South Region,

Wesley Pool B versus USA South (NCWC)  Pool A

W&J (If they win...) vs. Centennial survivor

[HSC85]

Ralph,

Where does the ODAC winner go.  It looks like it will be RMC or HSC.  Do they go to the East Region.  It would make more sense to send the Centennial winner to east and the ODAC winner to W&J or Thomas Moore.

[Ralph Turner]

Ralph,

Where does the ODAC winner go.  It looks like it will be RMC or HSC.  Do they go to the East Region.  It would make more sense to send the Centennial winner to east and the ODAC winner to W&J or Thomas Moore.

Boink!!

My bad!!

ODAC is probably the #3 seed in that sub-bracket.

Let's shift the Centennial to the East Region!

[thewaterboy]

Sorry to drag this a bit off topic.....but, has there been a final ruling on whether or not Wesley can host playoff games? Its been back and forth and Ive heard a lot of different things.

[PA_wesleyfan]

Sorry to drag this a bit off topic.....but, has there been a final ruling on whether or not Wesley can host playoff games? Its been back and forth and Ive heard a lot of different things.

thewaterboy


  Not sure . Haven't heard anymore about it

[Hampton U SID]

now we need Wesley to pound Webber next week (NNA at Webber on Halloween) 

[Teamski]

ski, good to hear from you.  I dont think anyone said that wesley was not doing well.  The stats are nice for the individuals and the defensive numbers are pretty impressive, but you have to look at the opposition, none have shown in any other game to be very potent offensively.  the turnovers being down is certainly a plus as that is what killed wesley the last 2 years.  how will this team respond when challenged by a team that is just as physical and quick as they are is what needs to be determined, hopefully salisbury, lake erie, and ohio dom will provide that challenge as pawesley stated.  it is tough going into the playoffs not having played a competitive game when some of the other teams have battled 4 or 5 times and are prepared for that knock down, drag out war.  umhb and miss college are 2 that come to mind in the south that will be just as big and strong as wesley.  hopes are high as they should be when you are ranked soon to be 4th in the nation.  Having a challenge to support that hope is what is needed.

I agree.  K-Mack mentioned this very thing in the podcast two weeks ago.  I do think that Wesley will be well set up with the likes of Lake Erie and Ohio Dominican, both over .500 this year.  Of course, you can bet that Salisbury will be keyed up and ready to play toe-to-toe with Wesley.
If there is one game that would salvage the season, it would be this one!

-Ski