Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[Uncle Rico]

uncle rico, no issue with that, i just dont think if trine played wesley that they would stop wesley more than wesley would stop trine.  it is not about uww as a comparison.  i am going be match ups of the teams and wesley matches up with both ncc and trine better than they do uww.  just my opinion.

I think we all agree that Trine, Wesley, and NCC all match up better against each other than they do against UWW!     Unfortunately all roads to Salem have tended to pass through Mount Union or UWW.  Hopefully we all will change that one day!    

I do have to root for UWW this year.   

Uncle Rico,

Who did you root for last year?

Wittenburg!   

[Uncle Rico]

emma, did not say 3rd, although i certainly think they would match up well with ncc whose offense would struggle scoring on wesley, but the wesley o would also struggle.  as far as trine, i would take wesley in any shoot out since their d is better than trines.  the defense was not the issue yesterday unless you hold it against them with the long drives of 1 and 24 yards uww had for the second half td's.  i have clearly stated that in order for wesley to be on the level of mount and uww the o line must improve.  kitchensink and i agree, their are about 5-6 teams in tier 2 and wesley has shown to be better than most of them on a yearly basis.  i dont have to evaluate, i am a fan.  i have been critical of wesley more often then most so i am far from rose colored glasses fan that you imply.  i would take wesley against any other team in the country right now with no changes unless they were playing mount or uww.

An intersting claim to make since Wesley performed the worst against UWW than both Trine and NCC.  Trine lost to UWW AT UWW by 14.   North Central lost at home to UWW by 10.   Wesley lost at home to UWW by 20.  Would Wesley have done better playing at UWW instead?  I do have to admit that I am looking at things through my Trine colored glasses, though.   

But Trine only beat DePauw by 10, and most of us in the ASC thought that the SCAC was down this year.

I have a hard time with scores and margins of victory at this time of the season.  Once a team finally pulls ahead of another team in a winner-take-all scenario, there can wide swings in the scoring when a losing team starts going for it all and plays game that is higher-risk, both for scoring and for mistakes.

You got me there      ...but it was a road game for Trine, and we all know how much harder it is to win on the road in the playoffs.     

[thewaterboy]

Great season Wesley! Its amazing how far they went and how much adversity they had to handle to get there. I do think the game would have been different if we maybe had Krout, McAndrew, or McSweeny, Knight, Travis Douglas, or DeAndre Fowlkes....but thats the past. Wesley did play a good half of football but it ended like 2009. Falling apart late. Just need to finish those games and finish drives.

Nice win Whitewater. I was really impressed by Coppage. Just how shifty and how hard he was to tackle was amazing. Best of luck vs. UMU. I still hate purple though  

Next to UWW and Mount, I think Wesley has become one of the strongest programs in Division III. 72-9 over the past 6 years. Making it to the semis in 4 of those 6. They arent on their level yet..... but theyre the best of the rest IMO.

Now time for a long offseason. Go Wesley!

[Ralph Turner]

Trine is on everyone's radar now. I hope that they can continue to improve.   

[seventiesraider]

WesleyDad-Sorry we can't go at this week, still looking forward to bantering in the lot on Saturday.

So.......you sitting with us this year

[wesleydad]

seventies, certainly in for the banter in the lot, as far as seats go i have no idea where or which side we are sitting on.  stone station is getting them and i go where they go.  good chance i cheer for you this time.

[seventiesraider]

They have to be as sick of Whitewater winning as the rest of the civilized world  , although I'm  not real sure about Olinemom.

[skunks_sidekick]

Never happen....those guys ALWAYS cheer against us, and WesleyDad always joins them.  It's just wrong!   

[wesleydad]

skunks, if it makes you feel any better, i am picking mount plus the 2.5.   was usually cheering against mount because they had won it so many times.  now it is 3 - 2 in the last 5 so i am re-thinking.  plus, the uww arrogance this year was more annoying than the mount of the past years.  besides, most of you guys stop by and say hi at the stagg and i have visited alliance and been welcomed so after further review seems like i may need to change my alligience this year.  besides that will be the only chance i have to get back on hscoach's xmas card list.

[HScoach]

^ it's a start.

[PA_wesleyfan]

 The UWW coach actually wore a purple suit to the friday nite press conference and  UWW went to the ncaa and asked that Wesley build a wall in the coaches area above the press box!!! I too am rooting for Mount!!!! And beenhit2hard had nothing to do with it!!!     

[wesleydad]

pawesley, i saw that too.  told the kid with me that that was new and probably had something to do with uww.  guess when you win you get to make certain requests.  no effect on game, but found it interesting.

[Pat Coleman]

Having been up on top of that press box, that's a reasonable request.

[Raider 68]

skunks, if it makes you feel any better, i am picking mount plus the 2.5.  was usually cheering against mount because they had won it so many times.  now it is 3 - 2 in the last 5 so i am re-thinking.  plus, the uww arrogance this year was more annoying than the mount of the past years.  besides, most of you guys stop by and say hi at the stagg and i have visited alliance and been welcomed so after further review seems like i may need to change my alligience this year.  besides that will be the only chance i have to get back on hscoach's xmas card list.

wesleydad,

Glad to have your support! The picture of tailgating looks like you on the left wearing Wesley #13 with a beverage in hand! +k

[wesleydad]

raider68, that would be me and it is a great picture of some great people who braved (or were stupid enough) to make the trip last year.  as we all keep saying it was fun until the ride home.  you dont get to attend too many events and last year certainly was one.