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Kira & Jaxon's Dad

Quote from: wesleydad on December 11, 2011, 09:42:35 AM
Quote from: Kira & Jaxon's Dad on December 11, 2011, 09:28:23 AM
Quote from: wesleydad on December 11, 2011, 08:53:37 AM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 11, 2011, 01:57:02 AM
Quoteadversity off the field
Care to elaborate?

Now footaball talk....
What do you folks think Scott saw in McSweeny's game that he got him 3 times?

The adversity off the field is talked about in the "Once More with Feeling" article in the What We are Reading section of the front page of D3.

As far as what Scott saw that got him 3 picks.  I am not sure if he saw anything, but because he is good found himself in the right place.  The first pick came when McSweeney was hit as he went to throw and the ball went way off direction right to Scott who wasn't even covering the intended target.  The second pick I believe was in the end zone on a poorly thrown pass that he just made a great play on, picking it before stepping out of bounds.  Since I am not sure which of the other 2 he got, I will cover both of them.  The 3rd pick and possibly the killer was the one that bounced off a Wesley receiver at the goal line, pops into the air and gets picked.  The 4th int came on the last play that Wesley ran which was pretty much a throw it up and hope something good happens.

3rd Pick was Ferrara, 4th Pick was Scott's final one.

thanks K&J's dad, couldn't remember who had what, but I think that Scott may have been the cover back on the 3rd int.  If so he did hit the receiver just after the ball hit the hands so he had a play in the int too, if it was him.

You are correct on Scott's Coverage on the 3rd Int.  See about 2:30 in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=iiNBliNFJ-c
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Quote from: Bluenote on December 11, 2011, 01:06:43 AM
They were 2 in the bracket....couldn't get much higher, but they beat the #1 seed in bracket. MUC is in a very easy bracket....so they gear up for 1-2 games in the playoffs where as other teams play tougher competition earlier. Don't see why MUC would always have a home game in every playoff game? That doesn't make sense.

You may (and that's a big may) have and argument that Wesley for Wesley hosting if they hadn't lost to Kean. Mount's schedule is hardly easy, playing in the OAC and opening with UW-Osh Kosh. They earn it every year on the field and run a classy program.

D O.C.

Let's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.   ;)

section13raiderfan

UMU gets home field advantage from winning all their regular season games. Its as simple as that. Everybody has that same ability. Win em all and you stay off the busses. It aint easy! Maybe the NCAA will pay for travel and nobody gets home field advantage in the future.

Hey HSC... who was the QB that carved MUC up in the playoffs in the early 90s? I believe it was after the first Stagg Bowl victory, but not long after. That kid sticks out as a QB as good as McSweeney. Although he didnt run as well, he threw darts all day and knocked us out of the playoffs. I know they didnt go all the way, but they nipped us in a game I felt we could have won.

For what its worth...we are sick of playing the same team in the finals also. But they earned their way so we will deal with it.

Come to think of it, Rowan have a QB transfer fron Notre Dame/ Michigan State that was probably better than McSweeney.     

SUADC

Quote from: section13raiderfan on December 11, 2011, 03:13:20 PM

Come to think of it, Rowan have a QB transfer fron Notre Dame/ Michigan State that was probably better than McSweeney.   

Negative.

skunks_sidekick

Quote from: Bluenote on December 11, 2011, 02:59:44 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 11, 2011, 02:47:54 PM
Let's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.   ;)

SKUNK TO BLUENOTE:

QuoteYou are so pathetic with this rant that is over...and over...and over...and over..and over. 

Please.......take the winter/spring/summer off...and come back with a better attitude.  PEACE OUT!   

Agree 100% D O.C......hope "skunk" calms down before he flicks crap next time and he wouldn't get the response he did from me. Don't call people pathetic for expressing their opinion. Peace Out!  ;)

I am very calm bluenote.  You have posted the Mount always plays at home rant at least a dozen times.  To the point where PC had to call you on it, to correct some of your incorrect assumptions.  We get it......Mount wouldn't have won half of their national championships if they had to play on the road.  Obviously the NCAA favors Mount, and that's the only reason they win. 

The fact that you feel compelled to post that opinion over and over is puzzling.  So you really believe that the NCAA should just say......"hey Mount...even though you are ranked #1 or #2 in the country, and are undefeated, you should just play some games on the road". 

Sure.....let's go with that.   ::)

Pat Coleman

Quote from: Bluenote on December 11, 2011, 02:59:44 PM
Quote from: D O.C. on December 11, 2011, 02:47:54 PM
Let's discuss (sports) in a positive way, sometimes kidding each other with no disrespect.   ;)

SKUNK TO BLUENOTE:

QuoteYou are so pathetic with this rant that is over...and over...and over...and over..and over. 

Please.......take the winter/spring/summer off...and come back with a better attitude.  PEACE OUT!   

Agree 100% D O.C......hope "skunk" calms down before he flicks crap next time and he wouldn't get the response he did from me. Don't call people pathetic for expressing their opinion. Peace Out!  ;)

Excuse me -- did you not read the post of yours I deleted? You don't get the high road here.
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HScoach

Quote from: section13raiderfan on December 11, 2011, 03:13:20 PM


Hey HSC... who was the QB that carved MUC up in the playoffs in the early 90s? I believe it was after the first Stagg Bowl victory, but not long after. That kid sticks out as a QB as good as McSweeney. Although he didnt run as well, he threw darts all day and knocked us out of the playoffs. I know they didnt go all the way, but they nipped us in a game I felt we could have won.


Come to think of it, Rowan have a QB transfer fron Notre Dame/ Michigan State that was probably better than McSweeney.   

I don't remember who you're thinking of, but I'm confident it wasn't one of the Rowan QB's.  The Rowan teams were a bear because of their line play and TB's.  Their QB's never impressed me.  But I could be wrong.  I'm getting older and I'm too lazy to dig out my old media guides to refresh my memory.

In regards to Mount hosting come playoff time, there have been quite a few opportunities for Mount to travel but the higher seeded teams lost earlier in the playoffs keeping Mount at home.  Even last year Mount would have traveled in the Semi's, but St Thomas couldn't beat Bethel so Mount hosted Bethel.  In 2005, Mount was the #2 seed in the North Region, but Capital beat #1 Wabash and semi-final pairing was a lower seeded team too so therefore Mount hosted again.  So the string of Mount hosting is part Mount being consistently good, and part good fortune on their part.
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What a game, and what a season.  Can't add much about the game that others haven't already said very well.  The program took one step closer by playing such a good game and showing we really can hang with one of the big boys, even if we still fell a few points shy of taking them down.    Much love to all our seniors who worked so hard to put this program where it is today.  We'll still be taking about McSweeny years from now and he will be the standard future Wesley QB's are measured by (much like Visconti has been).  When we finally DO get to that Stagg bowl, it will be in part because of the hard work and efforts by the teams of the last decade or so that have made Wesley one of the top programs in D3.  Coaches did a great job again this season and I hope they know how much they are appreciated.

Great to meet you in person WesleyDad, and I agree that I thought #4 had two picks to be +1 on the day (while my guy was 0 for too many to count).   Ski - thank you for your contribution to the program.  It takes effort by lots of people we usually don't hear about to help support a program.  Glad you enjoyed your run.

Already looking forward to next year.  Hoping our young receivers will remember how bad they feel right now and focus on improving their game.  They have a lot of talent and have big things ahead if they keep working.  Glad to hear Sottilaire should be ready for next year.  He did a great job stepping up when we needed him last year and has the physical ability needed for success.  Missing piece of the puzzle for him seemed to be confidence and leadership, which should come with maturity.  Need to work hard on firming up the secondary.

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Wesley had a great season, congratulations...  they took us to the wood shed in Dover, on Nov 12, so our admiration for their program, their level of talent, their coaches etc runs deep. The boy ( his mom says call him son ???) is a Grad Asst now at Huntigdon. He told me the folk at Wesely were class acts when it came to film exchange, pre and post game etc. and it was hard for him to like folk that whipped him so bad.(only HSC got as high a praise)

Hopefully we will see some of yall in Salem, Lord willing

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Quote from: SUADC on December 11, 2011, 03:40:34 PM
Quote from: section13raiderfan on December 11, 2011, 03:13:20 PM

Come to think of it, Rowan have a QB transfer fron Notre Dame/ Michigan State that was probably better than McSweeney.   

Negative.

That QB was Gus Ornstein,,and Mount won vs him,,and he was not the threat that McSweeny is with the run.Was also a very good baseball player.

wesleydad

I dont know why I am going to do this, but I will enter the fray about Mount and always playing at home.  I posted this thought earlier on the E8 board for a different discussion but it also fits here.  There is one and ONLY one legit way to guarentee, and it still wont be a guarentee if the #1 seed doesnt win their region, that Mount does not have a home game until the Stagg.  That would be for the other 2 teams in the discussion to be seeded higher than Mount by raising the level of their status to make Mount the 4th #1.  If all 1's win then Mount would go to UWW or whomever the top seed is, in the semis.  This would also mean we would not have the same two teams in the Stagg.  To imply that, for example, yesterday's results would have been different if the game was in Dover is a joke.  I am not going to look it up, but I don't think Mount has lost an away game in quite a few years.  Changing the venue of the game does not necessarily change the result, pretty ridiculous arguement to me.

PA_wesleyfan

 UWW Ended up playing in Dover last year  and weren't they the  defending champ??? I would think that if any team deserves to unseat UMU they woul.d have to have one heck of a schedule and go undefeated!! ;)
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PA_wesleyfan

  A couple of final thoughts on the game yesterday. I sure would have liked to see what kind of havoc Chris Mayes would have caused. I don't remember seeing anyone dominate like he did in the second half against Linfield. It would be nice to have everyone healthy for a championship run.  IMHO the D stepped up nicely without 4 starters. I hear all the discussions about playing to loose but you have to remember that there were a few inexperienced players back there. Last year losing Ellis Krout hurt because of the misjudgements of our other receivers getting expelled before the playoffs and losing Gene Knight.

  I am as disappointed as anyone with the loss,  but I am never disappointed in our player or coaches. I think what the players and coaches have accomplished over the years is a credit to their convictions to bring home a Stagg bowl win!!

Congrats on another great season and God willing we will all be back next fall to enjoy the next edition of Wesley football!!
Good Luck to all the seniors and thanks for four years of Great football! ;D

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Quote from: PA_wesleyfan on December 11, 2011, 09:34:33 PM
UWW Ended up playing in Dover last year  and weren't they the  defending champ??? I would think that if any team deserves to unseat UMU they woul.d have to have one heck of a schedule and go undefeated!! ;)
You are right and not only were we the defending champs, we were also undefeated with a 10/0 record.  The committee still gave us the #2 seed in the #4 ranked region.   :o  We were forced on the road for game #3 and the semi's in Dover.  My point is that even when a team wins them all, you are still at the mercy of the selection committee and I still find it curious that in what seemed like at the time, an attempt to put up a few roadblocks to avoid a 6th straight meeting of the purple powers, it was UWW that was sent packing, not Mount.  But Mount was given the tougher road for sure this year even though they played all games at home.  Just glad they haven't gone so far as to put us both on the same side of the bracket.   ;) But the point is, that home or away, you gotta win 'em all and there is no reason to believe that if Mount was sent packing more, they would win any less.  It didn't matter for us.  Great teams win on any field they play on, IMHO.  Well, I guess you could send them packing but insist they leave LK at home.  That might do it.   :D ;D
   But I got away from my purpose for stopping by.  I want to add my congrats to the Wesley Wolverines, their staff and fans.  A really great season!  I was really impressed with your outstanding QB and the teams, "refuse to lose," attitude that helped you win the game against the Cats.  You got incredibly close this season and the continued play-off experience will pay dividends on the recruiting trail and in the locker room.  Great season and good luck next year.   
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