Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[Ralph Turner]

Stevenson is adding football in 2010. I think we will have the making of a CAC football conference soon. Great news for Salisbury, Wesley, and Frostburg. Stevenson should be able to have a decent team in a few years and make for conference full of rivals.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-sp.stevenson27jun27,0,230361.story

Not to be a wet blanket here, but given Stevenson's proximity to Hopkins and McDaniel (and Gettysburg) it would make just as much sense for them to try and join the Centennial Conference. Dickinson and F&M are both closer than Frostburg and Salisbury, and even Moravian, Muhlenberg and Juniata aren't significantly farther. Just something to keep in mind.

I really wonder if the members of the Centennial Conference consider Stevenson as a "peer-institution" with the "same mission and vision".

Besides, the Centennial will have 10 football playing members when Susquehanna affiliates.

[Bigtoe75]

Stevenson is already in the CAC in all other sports just like Salisbury, Wesley, and soon to be Frostburg. So, it would be natural for them to form a football CAC conference.

[PA_wesleyfan]

I agree BigToe. I would like to see NNA as an affiliate member for football. They have been loyal to the ACFC and are an original member. You stioll need 3 more teams to get an A bid going though.

[Bigtoe75]

So, am I correct in that the conference would need 7 teams for an AQ? Maybe the CAC could convince some other schools to pick up football as well. Or, another school, or schools, joins the conference as football only. Who knows, but it is encouraging for schools like Salisbury and Wesley who have trouble filling out their schedule each year.

I also would like to see NNA stay in the conference as an affiliate member, those guys deserve it.

Stevenson is not a "peer institution," with the Centennial Conference schools. They are trying to build up enrollment and aren't really selective about admissions at this time. Which is why they won't have much trouble building up the program quickly. 

[Ralph Turner]

So, am I correct in that the conference would need 7 teams for an AQ? Maybe the CAC could convince some other schools to pick up football as well. Or, another school, or schools, joins the conference as football only. Who knows, but it is encouraging for schools like Salisbury and Wesley who have trouble filling out their schedule each year.

I also would like to see NNA stay in the conference as an affiliate member, those guys deserve it.

Stevenson is not a "peer institution," with the Centennial Conference schools. They are trying to build up enrollment and aren't really selective about admissions at this time. Which is why they won't have much trouble building up the program quickly. 

Yes.  (Thanks for the link to the article.  +1!)

You need three more teams not counting NNA to earn a Pool A bid. 

The link to an article on the ODAC board says that Shenandoah is going to the ODAC.

I wondered about CNU with the travel that they already have in the USAC.

Were CNU to join the Capital, then you still need 2 affiliates.

[HSCTiger74]

Stevenson is adding football in 2010. I think we will have the making of a CAC football conference soon. Great news for Salisbury, Wesley, and Frostburg. Stevenson should be able to have a decent team in a few years and make for conference full of rivals.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/football/bal-sp.stevenson27jun27,0,230361.story

Not to be a wet blanket here, but given Stevenson's proximity to Hopkins and McDaniel (and Gettysburg) it would make just as much sense for them to try and join the Centennial Conference. Dickinson and F&M are both closer than Frostburg and Salisbury, and even Moravian, Muhlenberg and Juniata aren't significantly farther. Just something to keep in mind.

I really wonder if the members of the Centennial Conference consider Stevenson as a "peer-institution" with the "same mission and vision".

Besides, the Centennial will have 10 football playing members when Susquehanna affiliates.

Thanks, Ralph. I always forget that "peer institution" aspect of the process and tend to focus on ease of travel and keeping costs in line. I need to remember that there's more to it. 

[Pat Coleman]

And it's good to note that other sports exist besides football.

[Teamski]

Now that it's official, what teams do you think could join the CAC teams to get it up to the 7 needed for an automatic bid?  Good news either way.  It's great to get football in the CAC.

 As mentioned above, I hope NNA gets a slot in the conference.

-Ski

[Ralph Turner]

Now that it's official, what teams do you think could join the CAC teams to get it up to the 7 needed for an automatic bid?  Good news either way.  It's great to get football in the CAC.

 As mentioned above, I hope NNA gets a slot in the conference.

-Ski

I cannot think of any teams that might affiliate with the CAC.

Who might leave their current conference and join the CAC?

Shenandoah wants to join the ODAC.  We have heard nothing about CNU moving to the Capital, and they are next closest football playing team.

The NJAC already has an AQ and needs affiliates to maintain it.

The Centennial is sitting pretty.

The MAC has its AQ and a comfortable conference size.

The USA South has just picked up three football schools in the GSAC to solidify its AQ.

I think the ultimate question is what three teams might add football to make the requisite seven?

Are any schools in the Colonial States AC looking to add football and would fit as an affiliate in the Capital for football?

[Teamski]

Thanks for the run-down Ralph.  I guess the CAC will be in the building mode for the years to come.

I'm thrilled to see Wesley is ranked 11th in the USA Today poll with Salisbury at 24.  Something to build on, hehehe....

-Ski

[PA_wesleyfan]

This was on the E8 board today!!!Not promisinfg for a CAC football conference

Quote from: sjfcards on Today at 09:40:14 am
Hopefully the E8 announces a football addition soon. I don't know if they are having trouble finding a team to replace norwich, or if this Salisbury/Frostburg thing is going to pan out, but it seems like there would be a team out there somewhere that would need/want to join a conference.

On Monday the E8 will announce that Frostburg and Salisbury are joining as football-only members for the 2011 season.

Discuss.

[Ralph Turner]

This was on the E8 board today!!!Not promisinfg for a CAC football conference

Quote from: sjfcards on Today at 09:40:14 am
Hopefully the E8 announces a football addition soon. I don't know if they are having trouble finding a team to replace norwich, or if this Salisbury/Frostburg thing is going to pan out, but it seems like there would be a team out there somewhere that would need/want to join a conference.

On Monday the E8 will announce that Frostburg and Salisbury are joining as football-only members for the 2011 season.

Discuss.

Frostburg and Salisbury have been brought in as "temps from the agency" to preserve the Pool A bid for the E8 and to provide some mid-to-late season games for the conference.  That is the ol' "three" non-conference games vs "five" issue.  When I wondered about the "pre-nuptial" that the E8 signed with FSU and SSU (   ) I wondered how long that contract might last.  The E8 needs Springfield as an affiliate, too.

The non-conference game issue was why the ODAC said that it permitted the affiliation of Shenandoah, i.e., four non-conference games versus three plus a balanced 8-team conference.

When you look at who is out there, as in my previous post, there is no one out there who doesn't have an affiliation.  You will need about 3 more teams to add football in the Mid-Atlantic Region to fill the conference.

Stevenson can fill its schedule if it wishes to travel.

Salisbury and Frostburg can keep their Wesley and Stevenson games and play the 7 conference games in the E8.

Unfortunately, it is Wesley that is left in the cold.

[DGPugh]

Ralph Turner (hero) said:"The USA South has just picked up three football schools in the GSAC to solidify its AQ."

is this for real or a supposition ?

old computer gone.... and been laying on my back a few wks..trying to walller around like a turtle as i adapt to my brand new bionic-titanium hip...i have been out of pocket

keep the faith (formerly AF4)

[Ralph Turner]

Ralph Turner (hero) said:"The USA South has just picked up three football schools in the GSAC to solidify its AQ."

is this for real or a supposition ?

old computer gone.... and been laying on my back a few wks..trying to walller around like a turtle as i adapt to my brand new bionic-titanium hip...i have been out of pocket

keep the faith (formerly AF4)

Hello AF4,

Sorry that you had to sign on with a new password.  Welcome back.  +1 karma to get you started.

The reporting that we are getting on the USA South GSAC deal is coming out of Maryville.  It appears spotty in details, but only because the final details may not yet be inked.  The Daily Times seems to be on top of the story.

Shenandoah's departure is pushing the GSAC/USA South deal, and I think that the deal will be done to prevent losing the men's AQ in the USA South.  Keeping Women's 2 AQ's in the USA South and the GSAC is also critical.  I like the way that this affiliation/merger seems to be rolling out.

The financial instability at Greensboro is another worrisome feature for the USA South.  That conference needs men's programs badly, and the GSAC will provide them.

Congratulations on the new hip!

[Hawks88]

AF4,
Good to hear from you old buddy. I heard you were laid up getting a new set of wheels. I'm sure you'll be up and about in no time.
From what I hear this GSAC/USAC merger just has some details to be worked out to be finalized. Hopefully we will hear something soon.

Go Hawks!!