Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[Toph]

Good season Wolverines, sure would like to play 1 more game though. The Wolverines couldnt establish a running game and a few turnovers cost them the game. I dont believe that they played their best game either. Watched some of the game on STO. The MUC player never tipped the ball when he ran into Smicklo. Should have been obvious anyway since footballs that are tipped dont go 50 yards. And the roughing the punter call that was called was bad. The punter just grazed the shoulder pad of the Wolverine who started to turn around. Then he just fell down. But its over and all that matters now is the score. Good job Mount Union, will miss the seniors. Now its time to prepare for the long offseason, but hopefully not too long.

Talked with some Mount Unioners, all nice people. You all represent your school well and should be proud. However, when the Wolverines were on their way to the lockerroom during halftime, there were some MUC fans shouting obscene remarks at the players.

Good luck to Mount in the Stagg, and Go Wesley.

I wouldn't start casting stones there.  I've never seen a team try to engage the opposing fans sitting behind the bench as much as Wesley.  For a team that didn't lead at any point in the game and couldn't stop a completely one dimensional offense, those guys were flapping their gums quite a bit.  Amazingly, the coaching staff made no effort whatsoever to prevent the players from talking smack with the fans.  When you talk as much as some of those kids did (#26 and #7 in particular), you're going to hear a lot of things from the fans.

[PA_wesleyfan]

Toph

When I originally brought that up I was talking about the MU  players running by the Wesley bench at half time and yes they were taunting. I had heard about the fans all week and unfortunately you are never going to controll that unless you get rid of the drinking pre game. Of course when you make it a point week after week to sit in the visiting stands aren't you making a statement to begin with? 

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Toph

When I originally brought that up I was talking about the MU  players running by the Wesley bench at half time and yes they were taunting. I had heard about the fans all week and unfortunately you are never going to controll that unless you get rid of the drinking pre game. Of course when you make it a point week after week to sit in the visiting stands aren't you making a statement to begin with? 

Unfortunatly, those are probably the best seats in the stadium (unless it is raining).  When you sit on the Home Side it is harder to get a decent view of the game.

[beenhit2hard]

pa Wesley,,are you going to the Stagg ??

[PA_wesleyfan]

 wesley had problems with students a few yars ago and now they charge twenty bucks to park and the parking lot has to be empty a few minutes before game time .So that did away with the students plus alot of other who used to tailgait. I just don't like that part of the game experience. i am sure you heard our one parent who screams at the coaches the whole game!  to bad his son didn't show up to play yesterday.  

[thewaterboy]

Good season Wolverines, sure would like to play 1 more game though. The Wolverines couldnt establish a running game and a few turnovers cost them the game. I dont believe that they played their best game either. Watched some of the game on STO. The MUC player never tipped the ball when he ran into Smicklo. Should have been obvious anyway since footballs that are tipped dont go 50 yards. And the roughing the punter call that was called was bad. The punter just grazed the shoulder pad of the Wolverine who started to turn around. Then he just fell down. But its over and all that matters now is the score. Good job Mount Union, will miss the seniors. Now its time to prepare for the long offseason, but hopefully not too long.

Talked with some Mount Unioners, all nice people. You all represent your school well and should be proud. However, when the Wolverines were on their way to the lockerroom during halftime, there were some MUC fans shouting obscene remarks at the players.

Good luck to Mount in the Stagg, and Go Wesley.

I wouldn't start casting stones there.  I've never seen a team try to engage the opposing fans sitting behind the bench as much as Wesley.  For a team that didn't lead at any point in the game and couldn't stop a completely one dimensional offense, those guys were flapping their gums quite a bit.  Amazingly, the coaching staff made no effort whatsoever to prevent the players from talking smack with the fans.  When you talk as much as some of those kids did (#26 and #7 in particular), you're going to hear a lot of things from the fans.

Well said pa wesleyfan.
I was not trying to cast stones by any means, and I apologize if some of you took it that way. As far as the Wesley players trying to engage opposing fans, I disagree. Coach Drass WOULD NOT allow any of that. If it did occur, I am sure it was dealt with in the lockerroom because nothing happened on the field.Yesterday I do not remember seeing any of that, the only interaction with the fans that the players had was when they turned around to fire up their own crowd.

[PA_wesleyfan]

beenhit2hard

No I used up my passes out of town til next year!! And that's a little to far away to get home quickly if I needed too.

 I am sure I would like that experience. I do enjoy talking with people about the game . Too many times things typed are taken the wrong way.

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

wesley had problems with students a few yars ago and now they charge twenty bucks to park and the parking lot has to be empty a few minutes before game time .So that did away with the students plus alot of other who used to tailgait. I just don't like that part of the game experience. i am sure you heard our one parent who screams at the coaches the whole game!  to bad his son didn't show up to play yesterday.  

Too bad the problem fans at MUC aren't students, but local townies. Would be hard to charge for parking at MUC.  Too many small lots with multiple entrances and lots of on street parking.

[PA_wesleyfan]

 Yes i read on the other boards about the townies last week
  The locals at Wesley are mostly an older crowd.  And I would have to say they aren't into it as much until later in the seasoon and playoffs. Wesley even with it's success is third fiddle to Del and Del St..

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Yes i read on the other boards about the townies last week
  The locals at Wesley are mostly an older crowd.  And I would have to say they aren't into it as much until later in the seasoon and playoffs. Wesley even with it's success is third fiddle to Del and Del St..

MUC has an older crowd also.  They are sitting under the covered stands, with plaid blankets laid across their laps.

[Teamski]

Well, I got back with the team early this morning and finally got my computer working again after it failed for some reason while I was out of town.

Overall, I was really happy with how Wesley played.  Wesley's defense did a great job, but MUC's defense did a better job against the Wesley offense, and it just wasn't in the cards for the Wolverines this time around.  Trailing 10-7 into the fourth quarter isn't bad at all.   Wesley silenced the "townees" for quite a while in the second half.  Congrads to Mount Union for a convincing game.

OK, let me say this about the "townees."  I was in the camera room right above both the Wesley and MU fans.  I have never seen such a rude bunch of fans in the whole time I have watched DIII.  Now, I understand that the fans are side-by-side, but come on.  Now, I'm sure some of the Wesley fans didn't help the situation, but at the end of the first half, there were calls for a fight.  I talked to a Raider staffer and he let me know that the Raiders were not behind these fans and he looked pretty embarassaed about the whole situation.  He mentioned that the Alma Maters sat in the old stand across the field, and that these jokers on my side were called "townees" by MUC.  Pretty sad stuff.


As far as players, Wesley was not the only team on the field taunting.  During pregame, Cecil was doing his side-line-to-side-line pregame sprints.  He purposely ran onto our sidelines, making people have to move for him.  Totally unnecesary. The same was being done by the special teams coaches themselves.  They had their kickers kick the ball to our sideline causing us to have to keep our attention on them as not to get hit by a ball.  Usually, kickers kick on their side of the field, along the length.  You don't kick into the opponents sidelines.  I consider these sources of intimidation that MUC might not know that they are doing, or maybe they do.  Seriously, this was the first time that I have seen this type of behavior from an opposing team.

I have heard elsewhere that MUC can be one of the most trash talking of any DIII team.  I have to agree that this is the case.  Wesley wasn't going to take it, and it showed.

When it is all said and done, MUC was the better team on the field, that nobody will argue. SO it was settled on the field.

Thanks to Wesley for another great season.  This was my first as the videographer of the team, and I sure learned a lot in how much work it is for both the coaches and the players to keep a team near the very top of DIII.  Thanks to Coach Drass and his fine staff for one hell of a season.  We'll see ya next year.

-Ski

[beenhit2hard]

Yes i read on the other boards about the townies last week
  The locals at Wesley are mostly an older crowd.  And I would have to say they aren't into it as much until later in the seasoon and playoffs. Wesley even with it's success is third fiddle to Del and Del St..

MUC has an older crowd also.  They are sitting under the covered stands, with plaid blankets laid across their laps.

I do not have a plaid blanket,,I have a Purple one

[seventiesraider]

Toph

When I originally brought that up I was talking about the MU  players running by the Wesley bench at half time and yes they were taunting. I had heard about the fans all week and unfortunately you are never going to controll that unless you get rid of the drinking pre game. Of course when you make it a point week after week to sit in the visiting stands aren't you making a statement to begin with? 

The half time incident was as a result of a couple of frustrated boys in blue mixing it up after the whistle. There was one blindside cheapshot well after the whistle at about the 20 that got the sidelines fired up. Watching from the south endzone we just thought it was an amazingly dumb time and place to pick a fight. BTW, most of the Mount players were heading to the locker room. No sure exactly where the Wesley sidelines and coaches were headed??

As I  saw it the Raiders were yelling at "our" wackos in the center sections
Granted I see the world thru purple glasses

[wesleydad]

seventies, both teams were responsible for the halftime junk that went on.  it is easy to try and cover for mount that they were just going to the locker room, but that doesnt jibe when they have to exit on the opposing side of the field.  since they go to the building at the far end of the complex, they could certainly exit by the snack bar, score board end and never have an interaction with their opponents.  this is clearly done as a way to intimidate, which i have no problem with except when it causes situations like yesterdays.  the banter continued behind the stands with mount making no effort to remove  their players from the situation since they "were only walking to the locker room".

waterboy, the players mentioned by toph did spend some time looking into the stands by the scoreboard side of the field which is where i was sitting.  i did not hear them say anything, but i was watching the game.

teamski, we had tickets in section 13 and chose to sit away from there due to the stuff that i had heard about during the week.  no need to get involved with that.

pawesleyfan, must of us who partake in the pregame handle it just fine and enjoy the comeraderie that it brings.  we spent yesterdays pregame after breakfast talking to some of the purple suits and they are a nice group of kids.  actually knew about wesley and were looking forward to a good game.

[seventiesraider]

Only mid-field half time confrontation I've seen in forty years. I'm not trying to be contrary but do the math

North end locker room is a recent addition. Tradition is home  team enters where they please.

Trash talk is older the Knute Rockne.

To quote one is LK's rougher comments, "We ain't playing table tennis"