Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[thewaterboy]

Pat

I had just heard that Wesley recieved tapes where the team opposing Mount ran a dissimilar offense than that of the Wolverines. I imagine it made it harder to determine what to run in the same packages that Wesley had used all year. Hope that clears it up. Happy Holidays!

[Kira & Jaxon's Dad]

Also, I heard from a reliable source that the tapes that were given had the opposing team running different offenses than that of Wesley which runs primarily with a TE in the package. That made it hard for Wesley to determine what to run on offense. With Shorts in the wildcat, I guess it was a play Wesley had not seen before with Shorts lined up at QB. So, I think if the coaches aren't as good as those from Mount and UWW they aren't far behind.

Wesley's coach was quoted after the game as saying that they DID see Mount Union in the Wildcat offense.  The only difference was that Mount Union ran Shorts to the weak side, which was something that they hadn't seen in the tapes.  If a coach can't adjust to that, then that may be the issue right there.

Also, Pat is right.  The NCAA determines which tapes are exchanged, so it wasn't as if Mount Union gave Wesley certain games where MUC's opponents ran a different offense than Wesley on purpose.  It is up to the coaches to watch the films available and get from it what they can.  Also, anyone who has DirectTV sports package could have seen ALL Mount Union's home games as Sports Time Ohio is included in that package.

Sounds like you are just making excuses, rather than looking for ways for Wesley to improve.  I have nothing for respect for Wesley and the Football program and hope, for their sake, that they don't share the same opinions as you do on these issues.

[thewaterboy]

Kirasdad

I am by no means making excuses. Mount threw something new at the Wolverines and they couldn't defend it. Plain and simple. Also I did not accuse Mount of giving Wesley those tapes. It was just the way the pieces fell. All I was saying is that it would be harder to make a gameplan when you aren't 100 percent sure of how your opponent will play on the defense. Especially against a great team like Mount. Once again I did not say anything about Mount purposely giving Wesley tapes that did not have the same offenses. To me Wesley lost because they did not execute when they needed to and mount did. Sorry for misleading you and happy holidays.  

[dedragon]

Whitewaters enrollment is nearly 9000. Wesleys is about 2000. It helps when you have that many potential players to choose from.

This isn't high school. Kids on the football team are at Whitewater because they were recruited to Whitewater, not because coaches hung signs up in the dorms and held an open tryout.

As a former WIAC coach, I can say this... Every member of those teams are recruited to play football. Some of the recruited members get cut to make the 100 roster limit. The WIAC recruits have this choice to make, either travel to Minnesota and play for the NSIC (Division II) or play at home for a damn good WIAC team.

The lack of a Division II option in the State of Wisconsin aids them in recruiting. Whitewater, with their proximity to Millwaukee might have a better chance at getting some better skill positions kids. They all have great (fantastic) facilities as proven by the number of hosted NFL camps now and in the past.

In all, I think that their decision to go Division III was the right one financially for the system. You can spend money on facilities rather than funding scholarships. Whitewater has a lot of support financially on the side which helps with the "perk"s.

I say good for them.

[thewaterboy]

Any word on teams in the ACFC leaving for another one? They are supposed to do that soon, correct?

[Ralph Turner]

Any word on teams in the ACFC leaving for another one? They are supposed to do that soon, correct?

Yes, Frostburg and Salisbury are leaving for the E8 in 2010.

This just holds the E8 Pool A bid for those 2 years.

When Buffalo State arrives in the E8 in 2012, then Frostburg and Salisbury can move to another conference if they and the E8 wish.

The E8 needs four core members and 3 affiliates to remain as a Pool A conference.  It looks like the E8 has preserved its Pool A status at least until 2014.

[Hampton U SID]

Any word on teams in the ACFC leaving for another one? They are supposed to do that soon, correct?

Yes, Frostburg and Salisbury are leaving for the E8 in 2010.

This just holds the E8 Pool A bid for those 2 years.

When Buffalo State arrives in the E8 in 2012, then Frostburg and Salisbury can move to another conference if they and the E8 wish.

The E8 needs four core members and 3 affiliates to remain as a Pool A conference.  It looks like the E8 has preserved its Pool A status at least until 2014.

Ralph - I think FSU and SU leave AFTER 2010 season

[Ralph Turner]

E8 adding Buffalo State press release

Buffalo State football moving to Empire 8 in 2012


Jan 11, 2010 9:56:44 AM

The NCAA News

Buffalo State will join the Empire 8 in 2012 as the league's fourth affiliate member in football.

The addition will boost the league's membership for football to nine members. Two other affiliate members, Frostburg State and Salisbury, will begin play in the Empire 8 this fall.
...

The error must be in the NCAA press release.   

[thewaterboy]

So does this mean the beginning of the end for the ACFC? Or are there teams coming into it? Also where does Wesley fall? I have heard that they plan on potentially going independent.

[rams1102]

So does this mean the beginning of the end for the ACFC? Or are there teams coming into it? Also where does Wesley fall? I have heard that they plan on potentially going independent.

Wesley is basically an Independent in the ACFC. Come north to the NJAC, I'm sure we can work it out and and build up the East again.  Wesley is an Eastern Team.

[RedDevil4Life]

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[thewaterboy]

Well rumor has it that Wesley will open up at Capital to start the 2010 campaign.

[Hawks88]

Huntingdon has posted their 2010 schedule. Looks like it's going to be a tough one, especially with 4 home, 6 away.

9/4     Maryville
9/11   @ Louisiana College
9/18   @ Faulkner
9/25   Birmingham-Southern
10/2   Wesley
10/9   @ Millsaps
10/16 @ Salisbury
10/23 @ Webber International
10/30 Trinity
11/6   @ LaGrange

[Ralph Turner]

Huntingdon has posted their 2010 schedule. Looks like it's going to be a tough one, especially with 4 home, 6 away.

9/4     Maryville
9/11   @ Louisiana College
9/18   @ Faulkner
9/25   Birmingham-Southern
10/2   Wesley
10/9   @ Millsaps
10/16 @ Salisbury
10/23 @ Webber International
10/30 Trinity
11/6   @ LaGrange

Great schedule.  That schedule can earn you an at-large bid.  Eight in-region games.

[wesleydad]

waterboy, it doesn't look like a rumor if you go to the Cap website listing game one versus Wesley at Cap on Sept 11.  looks like I may have my first road trip of the season.