Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[PA_wesleyfan]

  If the coaching is so bad I don't think Wesley would be in the position they are in . How do you lose your starting (possible all-american) QB ,another possible all-american TE, a four year starting Slot Back as well as a DE and starting Long snapper change your offense to accomodate the changes all after the first game and still become the top seed without GOOD coaching?!!!!!!!!!

[wesleydad]

with all the injuries that have occured this season the coaching staff has done a nice job changing what needed to be changed in order for wesley to keep winning.  again it seems like we are talking about 2 different things here, some of you are looking at it from the point of view that wesley is winning and that must mean that the coaching is good, which i dont recall anyone saying it wasnt.  some of us are looking at it as can they win the whole thing which then allows for questioning some decisions in the quarterfinal and semi final games in which wesley has lost.  despite the fact that as some have stated, mount dominated the o line most of the game, if wesley scores on the failed never tried during the season in a game jump pass, then the result may have been different.  when you look at the results of the games in which wesley has lost in the quarterfinals and semis they have had trouble scoring points, credit the other teams d, but also question why when they had little trouble scoring during the season.  wesley has a very good coaching staff, can it win the whole thing?

[wesleydad]

raider68, i believe i saw somewhere that wesley has the #1 statistical defense in the nation.  umhb is always a tough game but i think they will have as much trouble scoring as anyone else has so far this year.  if as i have read they have trouble covering the pass then i think they are in trouble as wesley has 2 very good receivers in kraut and stephenson.  they have a nice running back too. if they do what they have done all year and avoid the turnovers i expect them to see uwww in the semis in what will be balmy dover compared to whitewater.  once there who knows what happens, but i like there chances.

[AJK]

 This whole thing on questioning the offensive play calling or whatever your implying  is not really relevant to what needs done. Knapps gonna make some good calls and some bad, but no matter the call if the players dont execute there job then it looks like a bad call.  The coaches prepare a game plan each week and put the players in a position to gain positive yards. In the end the players have to step up against the stiffer competition and execute, which they have not done yet in the semi's.  Mount was just a better team last year(Cecil Shorts). The coaches can only take you so far!!
Go Wesley

[wesleydad]

ajk, 06 - 7 pts, 07 - 10 pts, 08 - 14 pts, 09 - 7 pts.  are you implying that all of a sudden the players were unable to execute the plays because the competition was stiffer and that the coaches have no blame in the inability to score.  you are right, coaches can only take you so far and the players have to execute, but if the plan is flawed then proper execution will still not lead to points.  i would agree that cecil shorts was the difference in last years game, but wasnt it the coaches decision to put him at qb just as responsible for mount winning the game.  i find it hard to believe that a team that routinely scores in the 40's suddenly cant execute plays properly because they play a good team.  kehres and leopold are considered 2 of the top coaches in d3, they certainly have good players, but i am sure they have a little something to do with the success of thier teams.  as of right now, the only constant from the last four playoff loses is the coaching staff so it is hard to just say it was the players who didnt get it done.  i just dont get the thought that i am bashing the coaches if i question some of the things that i have seen in the games.

[skunks_sidekick]

My comments/opinions come from watching the game against Mount last year.  When a team moves down the field running various plays in their usual offensive scheme, and then near the goal line runs a play that they haven't run all year, that is a coaching blunder in my opinion. 

When you look at Wesley's size/speed/roster, there is no question that the athetic talent is definitely there.  I am not saying the coaching is "bad" (that would be too general of a statement), but their offensive play-calling in crucial situations seemed to be very perplexing at the least.  I wonder if sometimes coaches try to be too creative when they are facing a challenge, and somewhat forget what the offense has been doing all year long.

Maybe it's like rocking a pop machine (not that I have ever done THAT)...it takes a few back and forths before it finally falls.  The good news is we will soon see if Wesley takes that next step.

[Teamski]

Man, what is with the Wesley bashing??  I would understand if Wesley was 4-6 or something like that, but we are talking about a team that earned the #1 seed in the playoffs.  That does not happen with poor coaching, period.   Some of these plays that you guys seem to think were wrong calls by the OC had wrong routes taken or were play calls by the QB.  I think Knapp does an outstanding job, personally.  The rest is up to the players.

Now onto the First Round.

-Ski

[beenhit2hard]

Skunk
I had seen the jump pass twice during the season,,so it wasn't brand new,,what I have not seen this seasonfrom Wesley is the boot series that was so good the last couple of years

[wesleydad]

first of all, some of you have to get thicker skin, there is no bashing here.  there is questioning some of the play calls in the 1/4 or semi final games.  be real, if you have been at the games which only me and ski can probably say we have and ski was not at the 06 or 07 games then you are only going by what you read or hear.  this team has had a great chance to win the whole thing.  they have not, so you can point fingers at the players or the coaches, both can take some of the blame, but to defend the coaches entirely is wrong.  there have been bad decisions and game plans that have led to wesley losing.  that is the way it is, like it or not.

maybe skunks and i see things a little different then every one else, reality versus wishes.  i still have not seen a post that said wesley had bad coaching.

[PA_wesleyfan]

WesleyDad!

You know where I stand on Wesley's chances.  It's not about talent, it's about coaching, specifically on the offensive side of the ball.  Wesley's defense can compete on a national scale, but the offense will be the do or die component of the Wesley run to the Stagg. 

NO JUMP PASSES!   

[PA_wesleyfan]

ajk, 06 - 7 pts, 07 - 10 pts, 08 - 14 pts, 09 - 7 pts.  are you implying that all of a sudden the players were unable to execute the plays because the competition was stiffer and that the coaches have no blame in the inability to score.  you are right, coaches can only take you so far and the players have to execute, but if the plan is flawed then proper execution will still not lead to points.  i would agree that cecil shorts was the difference in last years game, but wasnt it the coaches decision to put him at qb just as responsible for mount winning the game.  i find it hard to believe that a team that routinely scores in the 40's suddenly cant execute plays properly because they play a good team.  kehres and leopold are considered 2 of the top coaches in d3, they certainly have good players, but i am sure they have a little something to do with the success of thier teams.  as of right now, the only constant from the last four playoff loses is the coaching staff so it is hard to just say it was the players who didnt get it done.  i just dont get the thought that i am bashing the coaches if i question some of the things that i have seen in the games.

[Teamski]

  this team has had a great chance to win the whole thing.  they have not, so you can point fingers at the players or the coaches, both can take some of the blame, but to defend the coaches entirely is wrong.  there have been bad decisions and game plans that have led to wesley losing.      

We will have to respectfully agree to disagree.  Anyways, I'll see you tommorow at the game.  The weather is going to be awesome!

-Ski

[long time fan]

Wesley dad has had his shorts bunched up since 2008.  Nuff said

[wesleydad]

game day, looks like the weather will be good as ski stated, anytime you can get 60 degrees in dover with little wind in november is a great day for football.  looking forward to wesley playing a good game on both sides of the ball.  i was thinking as to which team i have seen this year that muhlenberg reminded me of when i saw them play a couple of weeks ago.  i think they are like cnu with a gutsy qb and a small but tough running back.  i think they will have trouble scoring just like everyone else has this year so as the capsule said, if wesley protects the ball and keeps the penalties down i see them winning say 42 - 7.

[WesleyGrad2008]

Halftime Update (d3football.com has no score updates for this game for whatever reason) Wesley 26 Muhlenberg 0. Wesley just missed a 38 yd. field at end of half. Sollitarre 14-20 with 256 yards and 3 td. Krout 5 rec 122 yds 2 TD. Fowlkes 2 rec 56 yards and 1 TD

Muhlenberg held to 32 passing yards and 53 rush yards