Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[DE Wesley Fan]

Hopefully our miscues were the result of boredom and will not be repeated when they may matter, but we really need to stop doing the stupid stuff. Too many needless penalties, a bad snap, an interception, and if HSC's receivers were more sure handed they would have had several more receptions. You guys are right on that the offense seemed out of sync after the first quarter.

HSC seemed like a classy enough team for the most part, and was nice to see they had a pretty decent fan following. Really took the wind out of their sails when they weren't able to convert after they picked us off, then our next play goes for a long touchdown. That's tough to come back on, especially when you're already the underdog. Congrats on a good season.

Maybe we can at least hope for warmer weather next week!

[PA_wesleyfan]

 Wesley ran the ball most of the second half and a few starters didnt play after half time so that may have led to some of the confusion with the wide outs and sets.

Ski

Wesley once put 20 pts on Ferrum in the first 1:30 . on the way to a 63pt output. Poor Uncle Frank was hurting that day!!

[NedM]

wesleydad:

Take solace in one thing: imagine of that first quarter had been televised like an NFL game. Touchdown Wesley and the extra point is good. Half a dozen replays. Then as many or more commercials. OK we're back and here's the kickoff to HS. We'll take break now for more commercials...so forth and so on. I could imagine that quarter taking 90 minutes.

Ned

[wesleydad]

wesleydad:

Take solace in one thing: imagine of that first quarter had been televised like an NFL game. Touchdown Wesley and the extra point is good. Half a dozen replays. Then as many or more commercials. OK we're back and here's the kickoff to HS. We'll take break now for more commercials...so forth and so on. I could imagine that quarter taking 90 minutes.

Ned

It seemed long to us, I can only imagine how long it felt to the HSC team and fans.  Just way too long for how it was playing out.

[HSCTiger fan]

I think it's easy to think everything is great when you win. I think Wesley had the best team I've seen play at the D3 level. I noticed a couple of items that could cause problems in future games. First your punting was horrible. One punt went 2 yards another went for 5 yards, 2 of 17 on third and forth downs, and 13 penalties.

Wesley racked up 560 yards of offense. Very impressive to say the least. 238 came on 4 plays that all resulted in TDs. Granted had those big plays not occurred it's very likely Wesley would have gotten a lot of those yards anyway. But taking out those 4 plays and the Wesley QB went 10 of 24 for 98 yards 1 TD and 1 int.  Wesley offense averaged 7.5 yards per play. Without those 4 plays it averaged 4.5 yards per play. Still good but not great.

Wesley looks vulnerable in a couple of other areas besides punting. First they only sacked the HSC QBs 2 times out of 49 attempts.  Our OL had trouble all season against physical fronts. Wabash as a comparison sacked HSC 6 times on 37 attempts. Finally, at first glance you might think the Wesley OL did a great job. And for the most part I'd agree. But HSC did record a sack - it was the first sack they'd had since the 4th game of the season. They also had 7 TFL and as a comparison they only had 2 TFL against Catholic.

I'm not saying this as a boast or to be some naysayer or to put Wesley down in any kind of way. I'm saying if I see these issues other coaches see these weaknesses too. I'm sure your coaches recognize them as well. The scoreboard really says it all. It was an unbelievable thrashing. I enjoyed everything about my visit to Dover except the game itself. I have a better appreciation for the athleticism of the upper level teams. I am saying that in the 3 round or the 4th round or in the championship poor punting, not pressing the QB, having lots of penalties, not converting 3rd and 4th downs and allowing 7 plus plays to be TFL might cause problems.

Then again if you turnover the opposing team 7 times it most likely will not matter.  I really hope your team wins it all this season. Best of luck.

[Teamski]

I'm not saying this as a boast or to be some naysayer or to put Wesley down in any kind of way. I'm saying if I see these issues other coaches see these weaknesses too. I'm sure your coaches recognize qqqqqqthem as well. The scoreboard really says it all. It was an unbelievable thrashing. I enjoyed everything about my visit to Dover except the game itself. I have a better appreciation for the athleticism of the upper level teams. I am saying that in the 3 round or the 4th round or in the championship poor punting, not pressing the QB, having lots of penalties, not converting 3rd and 4th downs and allowing 7 plus plays to be TFL might cause problems.

Three quarters of the game became redundant the instant the first quarter ended.  There was no motivation for Wesley to really play tough after that and they played like it.  Wesley literally jammed an entire game in 15 minutes.   In a closer game, Wesley ramps it up.  They had 4 sacks against Charlotte which featured a full-sized FCS offensive line.  I'm not too concerned with how Wesley will play when it counts.

...and yes, the kicking game sucks.  It has for a while now.....

-Ski

[dedragon]

I think it's easy to think everything is great when you win. I think Wesley had the best team I've seen play at the D3 level. I noticed a couple of items that could cause problems in future games. First your punting was horrible. One punt went 2 yards another went for 5 yards, 2 of 17 on third and forth downs, and 13 penalties.

Wesley racked up 560 yards of offense. Very impressive to say the least. 238 came on 4 plays that all resulted in TDs. Granted had those big plays not occurred it's very likely Wesley would have gotten a lot of those yards anyway. But taking out those 4 plays and the Wesley QB went 10 of 24 for 98 yards 1 TD and 1 int.  Wesley offense averaged 7.5 yards per play. Without those 4 plays it averaged 4.5 yards per play. Still good but not great.

Wesley looks vulnerable in a couple of other areas besides punting. First they only sacked the HSC QBs 2 times out of 49 attempts.  Our OL had trouble all season against physical fronts. Wabash as a comparison sacked HSC 6 times on 37 attempts. Finally, at first glance you might think the Wesley OL did a great job. And for the most part I'd agree. But HSC did record a sack - it was the first sack they'd had since the 4th game of the season. They also had 7 TFL and as a comparison they only had 2 TFL against Catholic.

I'm not saying this as a boast or to be some naysayer or to put Wesley down in any kind of way. I'm saying if I see these issues other coaches see these weaknesses too. I'm sure your coaches recognize them as well. The scoreboard really says it all. It was an unbelievable thrashing. I enjoyed everything about my visit to Dover except the game itself. I have a better appreciation for the athleticism of the upper level teams. I am saying that in the 3 round or the 4th round or in the championship poor punting, not pressing the QB, having lots of penalties, not converting 3rd and 4th downs and allowing 7 plus plays to be TFL might cause problems.

Then again if you turnover the opposing team 7 times it most likely will not matter.  I really hope your team wins it all this season. Best of luck.

Can't agree more about the punting, very frustrating all year long.

However, the rest of your statement can be thrown out the window. I will give you the lack of sacks, but then again, to my memory, H-SC max protected by leaving a back in most of the day. With Wesley only rushing 4, that makes 6 on 4. So yes, good job on that. But, because of that too, Nance throws 6 picks into zone coverage.

Good job to H-SC on that one sack too. One sack. Again, one sack.

TFL's, How many were in the second half? Most, I think. Good job.

Last but not least, you can't take out Kodossou's catches from the offensive stats, just like you can't take out Nance's INT's and say he had a ok day. 18 of 37 for 181 and 1 TD.

[tigerfanalso]

Like WesleyDad said earlier, no need to talk about the game as it was over quick. An Old Fashion A$$kicking.
Good luck to Wesley going forward. It will take a really good team to beat Wesley. I've never seen speed like that at the D3 level.

[D3MAFAN]

I think it's easy to think everything is great when you win. I think Wesley had the best team I've seen play at the D3 level. I noticed a couple of items that could cause problems in future games. First your punting was horrible. One punt went 2 yards another went for 5 yards, 2 of 17 on third and forth downs, and 13 penalties.

Wesley racked up 560 yards of offense. Very impressive to say the least. 238 came on 4 plays that all resulted in TDs. Granted had those big plays not occurred it's very likely Wesley would have gotten a lot of those yards anyway. But taking out those 4 plays and the Wesley QB went 10 of 24 for 98 yards 1 TD and 1 int.  Wesley offense averaged 7.5 yards per play. Without those 4 plays it averaged 4.5 yards per play. Still good but not great.

Wesley looks vulnerable in a couple of other areas besides punting. First they only sacked the HSC QBs 2 times out of 49 attempts.  Our OL had trouble all season against physical fronts. Wabash as a comparison sacked HSC 6 times on 37 attempts. Finally, at first glance you might think the Wesley OL did a great job. And for the most part I'd agree. But HSC did record a sack - it was the first sack they'd had since the 4th game of the season. They also had 7 TFL and as a comparison they only had 2 TFL against Catholic.

I'm not saying this as a boast or to be some naysayer or to put Wesley down in any kind of way. I'm saying if I see these issues other coaches see these weaknesses too. I'm sure your coaches recognize them as well. The scoreboard really says it all. It was an unbelievable thrashing. I enjoyed everything about my visit to Dover except the game itself. I have a better appreciation for the athleticism of the upper level teams. I am saying that in the 3 round or the 4th round or in the championship poor punting, not pressing the QB, having lots of penalties, not converting 3rd and 4th downs and allowing 7 plus plays to be TFL might cause problems.

Then again if you turnover the opposing team 7 times it most likely will not matter.  I really hope your team wins it all this season. Best of luck.

Can't agree more about the punting, very frustrating all year long.

However, the rest of your statement can be thrown out the window. I will give you the lack of sacks, but then again, to my memory, H-SC max protected by leaving a back in most of the day. With Wesley only rushing 4, that makes 6 on 4. So yes, good job on that. But, because of that too, Nance throws 6 picks into zone coverage.

Good job to H-SC on that one sack too. One sack. Again, one sack.

TFL's, How many were in the second half? Most, I think. Good job.

Last but not least, you can't take out Kodossou's catches from the offensive stats, just like you can't take out Nance's INT's and say he had a ok day. 18 of 37 for 181 and 1 TD.

Couldn't agree more with your statements. Now I wonder if D3Sports will offer video for Wesley over the next couple weeks, maybe not this week  , but the following week hopefully.

[DE Wesley Fan]

I think HSCTiger fan had some valid points, and we do have things to improve on.  Against both UNCC and HSC we had problems scoring TD's near the redzone.  That's where the INT happened Saturday, and later in the game we settled for a couple field goal attempts.  Now, as others have said, we really weren't trying too hard after the first quarter, and certainly not later in the game when we had a lot of subs in, so I don't put too much weight on the overall stats. 

I would just put this thought out there - how much different would the first quarter have been if HSC had been able to return that INT for a touchdown and tie it at 7-7 rather than have their momentum swept away after turning it over on downs and us scoring the monster TD on the next play?  Obviously we'll never know and I'm sure it would have just prolonged the inevitable, but it would have been interesting. 

It's the little things we have to correct to get over the hump and into the finals, as the big dogs will make us pay.  Of course everyone knows it, just easier said than done.  As for the punter, he's had some really good kicks but then has a few of those dogs.   Is there a baseball player out there who punts??? 

[Teamski]

Big time congrads to Joe Callahan in making the semifinal listing for the Gagliardi Trophy.  Well done mate!   

-Ski

[DE Wesley Fan]

Big time congrads to Joe Callahan in making the semifinal listing for the Gagliardi Trophy.  Well done mate!   

-Ski

That's awesome, and well deserved!

[PA_wesleyfan]

 Some of the starters did not play in the second half. Wesley ran the ball 53 times. Coach Knapp and Coach Drass  went very conservative after the first quarter..Or they may have scored 100pts.

[wesleydad]

Big time congrads to Joe Callahan in making the semifinal listing for the Gagliardi Trophy.  Well done mate!   

-Ski

That's awesome, and well deserved!

nice honor to be nominated.

[PA_wesleyfan]

Big time congrads to Joe Callahan in making the semifinal listing for the Gagliardi Trophy.  Well done mate!   

-Ski

Congrats to Joe. He has had a good year. And most of his passing yardage has been in the first half of games