Atlantic Central Football Conference/Independents

[PA_wesleyfan]

NNAsid
 
Tough loss this week.

  I was hoping to get to both the NNA/Wesley and BPort/Wesley games but that's not going to happen.
  The Builders should give Salisbury a good challenge this week.
Next week I'l give you the scoop on your trip to Morrisville. I have lots of family up there. Originally from Canastota, a small canal town (Home of the International Boxing Hall fame) which is only 15 miles from Morrisville. 




 

[Hampton U SID]

Thanks.....tough to win when you sputter as much as we did...looked good and then had trouble....

Now we have a Flock of Seagulls coming........who (to paraphrase the song) RUN RUN RUN (and I ran...I Ran so far away).

OK..bad 80s music pun....showing my age...

[SU Backer]

Salisbury just not in sync yet. Kids are working hard and morale is pretty good for a team that has dropped 3 straight. They get a few guys back from injury this week and hopefully the offense can get going. The defense is hanging tough but with the O going 3 and out a lot, it wears the D out and that has been showing by giving up some points late in the game. The Montclair game was 7-3 at the half. Not sold on the new 3 man front, although the guys up front are playing their butts off, I still think that that it creates too many cutback lanes for the RB, and the backers are not filling quick enough. As far as the offense goes, I think the O  misses Brett and Jerrod on the line more than even the loss of Dustin Johnson at QB hurts them. As always good luck this weekend @ NNA and GO GULLS!

[PA_wesleyfan]

Sure is quiet in here...

  Wesley has a big south match up this week at Huntingdon.

Wesley 38  Huntingdon 21 

  The only thing that has stopped Wesley's O was a bye week
 
   Brockport St has a big out of conference game with Ithaca

Brockport St. 24 Ithaca 20

    OOO could be a bit chilly off the lake this weekend. The Golden Eagles play a tough schedule

   And  NNA goes up against SSU in the only conference match up this week

NNA 20 SSU 17

    Like the Builders to get a big home win here.

[bportrocks]

Good luck this week to all the teams.  Brockports gonna do its best to try and shut up those mouthy E-8  guys and represent the ACFC

[SU Backer]

Any thoughts on what the future might hold for this conference? There are obviously some good teams top to bottom in it, but Brockport seems out of place geographically for this to be a good long term fit for them. Is Morrisville joining? What is the reason that this conference cannot get an auto bid, other than the amount of members? It obviously fits for SU and Wesley geographically and I guess even Frostburg and NNA are not real great distances apart, but that NNA to Brockport and Morrisville and vice/versa is a haul. What playoff bids are teams in this conference eligible for? I am fairly new so if these are dumb questions or the info is available elsewhere I am sorry for my lack of knowledge. Thanks

[Ralph Turner]

SU Backer,

The change in NCAA by-laws governing single sport conferences has precluded the ACFC from ever attaining the AQ.

NNA is an NCAA approved Affiliate member.  Game and stats against NNA count as official, but  NNA does not count towards institutional requirements.

A conference needs 4 core members and then may add 3 affiliate members to achieve the 7 necessary for an AQ.

That process is happening with the E8 (5 full and 2 affiliates),  the Liberty League (4 and 3), then NJAC (5 and 3), the ODAC (6 and 1), the USAC (6 and 1), the MIAA (6 and 1) and the Northwest Conference (6 and 1 as by 2008).  I may have missed some and have not counted the movement in the IBFC/NAthCon/UMAC/SLIAC shuffle!

In that part of the country, some conference needs to adopt football as a sport (get 4 core members who are playing it) and find 3 affiliates to join you, and NNA is a game, but doesn't count towards the requirements.

[SU Backer]

Thanks, Ralph
- looking forward to the drive to Newport News tomorrow, hope the drive back is better than last week's from NJ!!!!

[PA_wesleyfan]

SU Backer,

The change in NCAA by-laws governing single sport conferences has precluded the ACFC from ever attaining the AQ.

NNA is an NCAA approved Affiliate member.  Game and stats against NNA count as official, but  NNA does not count towards institutional requirments.

A conference needs 4 core members and then may add 3 affiliate members to achieve the 7 necessary for an AQ.

That process is happening with the E8 (5 full and 2 affiliates),  the Liberty League (4 and 3), then NJAC (5 and 3), the ODAC (6 and 1), the USAC (6 and 1), the MIAA (6 and 1) and the Northwest Conference (6 and 1 as by 2008).  I may have missed some and have not counted the movement in the IBFC/NAthCon/UMAC/SLIAC shuffle!

In that part of the country, some conference needs to adopt football as a sport (get 4 core members who are playing it) and find 3 affiliates to join you, and NNA is a game, but doesn't count towards the requirements.

Sooooo Ralph....

 If Catholic hadn't left the Capitol Conference with Wesley joining and Galudet returning to competative football next year, The Capital Conference could have added three football only schools and received an A bid within the next few years?

[Ralph Turner]

SU Backer,

The change in NCAA by-laws governing single sport conferences has precluded the ACFC from ever attaining the AQ.

NNA is an NCAA approved Affiliate member.  Game and stats against NNA count as official, but  NNA does not count towards institutional requirments.

A conference needs 4 core members and as many affiliate full members to achieve the 7 necessary for an AQ.  Gallaudet then becomes a very important member of the conference as the 4th full football-playing member. 

That process is happening with the E8 (5 full and 2 affiliates),  the Liberty League (4 and 3), then NJAC (5 and 3), the ODAC (6 and 1), the USAC (6 and 1), the MIAA (6 and 1) and the Northwest Conference (6 and 1 as by 2008).  I may have missed some and have not counted the movement in the IBFC/NAthCon/UMAC/SLIAC shuffle!

In that part of the country, some conference needs to adopt football as a sport (get 4 core members who are playing it) and find 3 affiliates to join you, and NNA is a game, but doesn't count towards the requirements.

Sooooo Ralph....

 If Catholic hadn't left the Capitol Conference with Wesley joining and Galudet returning to competative football next year, The Capital Conference could have added three football only schools and received an A bid within the next few years?

Yes, sir!  After 2 years of a stable conference of at least 4 core members and as many as  3 full member affiliates. 

The AQ is just too powerful of an incentive to an athletic program and a conference!  You win your league; you make the playoffs!  I am extremely grateful to the powers that be in the NCAA for their emphasis on strong conferences and the AQ system.  I think that it makes for a better college expereince for the student-athlete.

[Pat Coleman]

There wasn't much likelihood that Catholic and Wesley would have been in the CAC at the same time. Catholic and Goucher did not want to be associated with Wesley (or Villa Julie) on a conference level.

Villa Julie may add football. First heard that about a year ago, waiting on the formal announcement.

[Ralph Turner]

There wasn't much likelihood that Catholic and Wesley would have been in the CAC at the same time. Catholic and Goucher did not want to be associated with Wesley (or Villa Julie) on a conference level.

Villa Julie may add football. First heard that about a year ago, waiting on the formal announcement.

Okay... Starting 2007-08,  The Capital Athletic Conference could have four football playing members:

1) Salisbury -- Current
2) Gallaudet -- Adding Varsity in 2007.
3) Wesley -- Current
4) Villa Julie -- Possibly adding?

Now where could you find three more affiliates?  Frostburg State?  Logical!  Brockport State?  If they don't get invited to the NJAC.  SUNY Maritime?

Now, each of these is a "real" reach, I realize, but this is what it would take.  How you would schedule NNA could be handled in the by-laws.

Were these seven teams to play together thru the 2007 and 2008 seasons, then the Capital AC could have an AQ by 2009.

One other thought about having this particular football-sponsoring conference here is what impact it might have on other institutions in the Mid-Atlantic.  With the Capital available to add affiliates, might not other schools like a PSU-Berks or a PSU-Harrisburg (2007 provisional) or a Pennsylvania AC member consider football and joining as an affiliate?  The conference would provide games for new programs.

[PA_wesleyfan]

As far as I know, none of the Penn St.  satalite school have football

[PA_wesleyfan]

There wasn't much likelihood that Catholic and Wesley would have been in the CAC at the same time. Catholic and Goucher did not want to be associated with Wesley (or Villa Julie) on a conference level.

Villa Julie may add football. First heard that about a year ago, waiting on the formal announcement.

  And that Pat is why DIII is what it is. And why teams that are within 2 hrs of each other don't play.... And yet Catholic played Wesley in baseball

[Pat Coleman]

Let's see -- in football most schools have three or four games to schedule. In baseball it's more like 28. Hmm ... perhaps the two sports aren't comparable.